Nicularo |

21h ago

Aymeric,

I'm a regular VF manager. My account dates back to 2009 (17 years already!) and I can't say that I don't like VF. It's a game I enjoy and spend a lot of time on, and my longevity speaks for itself. In fact, I'm in the famous 'Circle of Legends', as are many others, and that rewards the time I've invested in your game.
I'm also helping to ensure that it lives on, or survives, because I've already advertised it to people around me and I've already spent a bit of money on stars.

You sometimes make decisions that are questionable. You're moving your game in one direction or another; you can't just make people happy, any change is bound to be accompanied by a flock of managers who disagree. I've sometimes been against certain improvements, but in the end, as always, you adapt. And then we move on and forget about it, let's just say we make the best of it.

But here's the thing. You made a decision, without really explaining your objective, which literally made your game explode in mid-air. It was, of course, your decision to remove all restrictions on transfers and leave the market 100% free. This decision, combined with the distribution of NG90 to Level 1s, made the market even more unstable.

Today, it's becoming impossible to combat cheating. There are far too many accounts that receive NG90 players (sometimes as many as 5 or 6!) and give them to other clubs. And then, once they've been distributed, they don't log on again... There's a real traffic around these players, and many of them profit from it - and as the market is free, everything is simpler, there's not even any need to hide.

A normal manager, like me, who struggles with his weapons, will have to go through training to painfully reach the level of a player's potential (after dozens of matches, injuries, suspensions, etc...) and I see my neighbours receiving well-packaged NG 90s on their doormats for 3 pennies.

So I come to my improvement project, as suggested by Deck:

  • Make the NG 90 players offered at Level 1 intransferable.

On another note:

  • Turn back the clock and reinstate rules governing transfers. I think this has gone on long enough. Or, if you have 10 minutes to spare, tell us why you decided to withdraw them.

Because yes, I'm talking about NG 90s, but that's not the only problem. It's only a small part of it. The bulk of the problem is around the amount of certain transfers, and there are more and more of them. There's a lot of circumvention of the rules, such as level 1s buying players from the Store (cheap) and giving them 3 months later to high-level players, who will have saved a lot of money. And there are plenty of other examples.

If you want, to avoid polluting this post, I could send you a PM with a huge number of clubs that are benefiting from this new system and against which we can do absolutely nothing as things stand; but which have found themselves very well in this new era. You'd have to react, Aymeric, by putting things back in order, by reintroducing rules, a team of administrators and a firm stance, and then we'd have the feeling that we're playing on an equal footing.

Hoping to hear from you. Thanks for reading.

Have a good weekend
Nicularo


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Deck |

20h ago

We're working on a nice amélioreration project of our own, but it'll have to wait so it doesn't overlap with this one.

The idea of the free market, it seems to me, is to increase mutual aid.
But mutual help between managers, two distinct human beings, behind two telephones, one of whom is a big club who would help a youngster to progress.

That's the idea in a carefree world, with admins who have time to waste and resources to spare.

The problem is that it's a complete failure...
90% of the players transferred at 100k didn't benefit young clubs that were progressing, but multi trafficking in all directions.

In short, as always, the schemers will have set aside billions with dubious 100k transfers, 90ngs fallen from the sky.
And then they'll come and give us lessons.

And when I see who hangs out with whom, I think that VF is rotten from the inside, with nothing left to do...

I can see why some people think "Why should I play clean?


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Rull43 |

19h ago

Thank you nicu 100% with you. Disgusted by the practices of some people who don't give a fuck. And there are more and more of them, obviously the game was handed to them on a platter.


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Misha |

19h ago

We can add that when a level 10 is transferred 5 players for 15% of the value from a level 2, and that level 2 is a ghost club that doesn't even bother to choose the colours of its shirt, then there are enough elements to consider this club as a double-count.

We were told that double-counts were always forbidden.


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napoleon10 |

18h ago

a long time ago, there was a rule:

if a small club wanted to recruit a big player by transfer or direct contact, the "player" could refuse the transfer to play for a much smaller club without the coach being able to give his opinion, even if he wanted to.

it didn't stay that way for long...


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myforsans |

15h ago

1°) It's clear that the reason(s) for the introduction of the 'free' market should be explained to everyone, other than by a vague: 'it's to facilitate mutual aid'.
Because in fact, as could easily be predicted, in the majority of cases it facilitates mutual assistance between the multi-accounts and the 'mafiosi' who set them up and then control them.

2°) Let's admit that in order to attract 'customers' and encourage genuinely new clubs to come and then stay in the game, there are donations of players generated by the system, but this needs to be much better adapted and regulated:

  • these players should be distilled down to a trickle and obviously be non-transferable (as suggested above)
  • These players should be better proportioned to the real players who have been identified and trained by the 'real' clubs in the game.
    At the moment, the game is gangrenous with 90 Zidanes, 100 Papins or 150 Lampards from NG 90 coming out of nowhere who are far better than 95 or 98% of the other players in the game of their age.
    And the gangrene is gaining ground a little more every day.
    The administrators have tools that allow them to trace players and I think they must be boiling at not being able to sanction what they see (and that even average managers like me also see in broad daylight without having these tools, because it's so big).

3°) And if the market has to remain free (for reasons I don't know) then in that case, remove the possibility of selling direct and only authorise auctions with a minimum of 24 hours.
Unfortunately, this would restrict the game, but with this system, no more shenanigans would be possible in terms of transfers at a low price (disguised player donations) and everything would be done "freely" but....... at a price in line with the market price.
We'll just have to watch the crazy bids. For example, a club bidding 1 billion on a friend's player to give him his money, but that's easily visible and punishable by an admin. The system could even provide for a maximum bid determined by an algorithm setting a theoretical value for the player (based on the player's NG, age, etc.... as for the values of the players in the Vfstore) and then cap the bid on a player, for example, at a maximum bid of 1.5 times this theoretical value.

Given the extent of the current drift in the game, if nothing is done, it's hard to believe that it's because this drift was deliberate, as incredible as that may seem.


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jul068 |

5h ago

51 thumbs up in 15 minutes, validating Nicularo's position.

Aymeric, you need to do something about this, we don't understand where you're going with your latest decisions. What's the point? Get more people to connect to your game so that VF gets more exposure?

The result after several months is indeed the creation of many new accounts but how many real players? On the other hand, we're losing players who've had an account for several years, disgusted by the way the game is going.

We used to report pyramid schemes involving multiple accounts. Three or four days of investigations and the accounts were blocked and reset. Often on beautifully constructed schemes. Now it's so crude that even vf novices can see how multiaccounts are set up, it's pathetic. The last club targeted ten or so days ago played dead but is now back in business. Once again a 3.3M transfer for a pot14 NG14 to a club that only buys from them.

In short, it's as if the admins no longer have the weapons to regulate VF. Sad situation


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