What do you think about copying the game?

With this formula, the winner gets to play 13 matches, including the final, with the return legs counting as a single match.

Currently, on VF, if we start with 128 clubs and a pool phase, there are 9 matches.

This seems to me to be impossible to set up.

There are already bugs to prevent crossovers after the pools, so this 128-team format is a dream come true 😂

There would also be too many matches if we had to play 8 group matches.

And it wouldn't fundamentally change the competition, which is a lottery once you get to the finals.

Demi-cerveau: Avec cette formule, le vainqueur peut jouer 13 matchs, finale comprise, en comptant les aller-retour pour un seul match.

Actuellement, sur VF, si on part à 128 clubs avec une phase de poule , il y a 9 matchs.

Ça me semble globalement impossible à mettre en place.

i don't see how it's impossible to play 13 LDC games (and that would only involve the two teams going to the final), the others would be less
Then you have to make choices about managing your squad and if you don't have enough players you have to choose which competition(s) you're going to play your heart out.

Obviously, there are plenty of clubs that blindly choose to increase the NG of their players to the detriment of stamina. It's a bad calculation. All you have to do is train a bit more in endurance and it's not that complicated to have a squad that can play two big games two days in a row.

With the proposed format, there could very well be 8 matches to play for 76 qualified teams (2 for each of the 38 leagues) and 76 teams qualified for the VFFA Challenge (equivalent to the Europa League) for the 38 League Cup winners and the 38 3rd or 4th-placed teams if the League Cup winner finished in the top 3.

And above all with this format, spread the LDC and VFFA Challenge matches out much more over the whole season and not concentrate the LDC matches on the first two weeks of the season.

Skyz: Y a deja des bugs pour eviter les croisements apres les poules alors ce format à 128 équipes on peut arrêter de rêver 😂

Ça ferait aussi trop de matchs si on doit faire 8 matchs de poules.

Et puis bon ça ne changerait pas fondalement la competition sur VF qui est une loterie une fois arrivé en phase finale.

Aymeric said on discord that he was thinking of introducing this format a few weeks ago, so it's not impossible that you'll see it in place later on

And we don't have to have 8 group matches. We could have 6 like in the conference league.

iMcCarthy77: Aymeric a dit sur discord qu'il réfléchissait à mettre en place ce format ya quelques semaines donc c'est pas impossible que tu le vois en place par la suite

Aymeric talked about a game within a game for the CDF, and the rest is history

myforsans: 14 matchs de championnat + quelques matchs de coupe de la Ligue sur 56 journées je ne vois pas en quoi c'est impossible de jouer 13 matchs de LDC (en plus ça concernerait que deux équipes qui vont en finale) les autres ce serait moins
Après il faut faire des choix de gestion de son effectif et si on n'a pas l'effectif suffisant choisir quelle(s) compétition(s) on joue à fond.

Evidemment il y a plein de clubs qui font aveuglément le choix de monter la NG de leurs joueurs au détriment de

I know you don't see the problem with offering 56 days of competitions in a 56-day season. But you also have to realise that if there are 50 managers in the game who want that, it's the end of the world.

myforsans: 14 matchs de championnat + quelques matchs de coupe de la Ligue sur 56 journées je ne vois pas en quoi c'est impossible de jouer 13 matchs de LDC (en plus ça concernerait que deux équipes qui vont en finale) les autres ce serait moins
Après il faut faire des choix de gestion de son effectif et si on n'a pas l'effectif suffisant choisir quelle(s) compétition(s) on joue à fond.

Evidemment il y a plein de clubs qui font aveuglément le choix de monter la NG de leurs joueurs au détriment de

hi
i don't see why the vf community should have to bend to a few managers again, as usual. As you say, it's a management game, and not just the management of an elite, but of a community.
what you say is commendable for those who play it, you or others, but not everyone thinks like you.
We are already penalised at the start of each season for not playing and we should be penalised even more?
Each member has to put his own house in order and that's normal as long as it doesn't affect other members' game play
have a good game and a good season

Marcus Aurelius: Aymeric a parlé d'un jeu dans le jeu pour le CDF, on connaît la suite ; alors je ne serais pas étonné que dans 5 ans ce soit la même LDC.

Trop de matchs en poule ; 8 c'est énorme, et puis tu ne peux pas refuser d'y participer.

Et quand on pense aux coupes retardées avec les amicaux et IE ça ne va rien arranger.

Ce serait tout aussi claqué que la version IRL (dont la seule raison d'exister est plus de fric au passage).

Personally, I found this first IRL edition much more interesting than I imagined ^^'
There was a lot at stake right up to the 8th and final day of the group stages, big games every week, plenty of surprises in store 😇😋 and for once, the French clubs played their hearts out

pt up (forgot)
it's not the competition that's critical, but by adding to it, you're taking it away from it
the time when all the field winners faced each other was in direct elimination you lose you get out and after 1 week and a half it was over and we didn't talk about it anymore.
already it's misery for the community at the start of each season, yet more additions? it'll never end.
that's it.

@redbull
i don't understand what you mean when you say:
We are already penalised as members at the start of each season for not playing and we should be penalised even more?

i don't see how this formula would penalise you ?????

Au contraire ce que je trouve pénalisant actuellement pour ceux qui ne jouent pas la LDC ou la VFFA Challenge (bref on allons dire tous ceux qui sont pas en D1 de leur championnat puisque toute les équipes de D1 ou presque se qualifient puisque il y a 256 places ! :) :)
is that the start of the season is too long before the championships begin

With a formula like this, the LDC could be spread out more easily over the whole season, with fixed (and staggered) dates for the 8 matches in the 1st phase set at the start of the season, over 4 weeks for example, and the championships could get under way more quickly

Moreover, I see that you're not even registered in a league and that you train 17-year-old players exclusively in friendly matches: redbull77 FC
So it's incomprehensible that this formula would bother you :) :) :)

myforsans: D'ailleurs je vois que tu n'est même pas inscrit dans un championnat et que tu fais de la formation de joueurs de 17 ans exclusivement en matchs amicaux : redbull77 FC
Donc incompréhensible de dire que cette formule te dérangerait :) :) :)

i'm not going to show you the bug part, you know it perfectly well too, Viking
matches that don't end
the game that keeps crashing
the auctions or more news
ext ext , the bug part is full of them and all at the same time every time
so yes we are penalised by this, when I say what you give to 1 place elsewhere you lose it that's exactly it.
yes, friendlies are much more valuable than championships because you can train with more security if you see a problem, you can play at other times simply ....
so yes, this formula bothers me enormously

myforsans: D'ailleurs je vois que tu n'est même pas inscrit dans un championnat et que tu fais de la formation de joueurs de 17 ans exclusivement en matchs amicaux : redbull77 FC
Donc incompréhensible de dire que cette formule te dérangerait :) :) :)

vicking
when agreement cups become more attractive than so-called official cups, it's because what the community is looking for is perhaps not what you're looking for in the game.
not too long ago I was talking to the presidents of agreements about this very subject and the members find themselves more at home in this type of cup
some of you will say that the group stages are to resemble the ril except that it is exactly the same lie as in irl it is precisely to favour the elites .... on this point it resembles it because the average club will no longer have access to it by leaving the group stages.
ap each one pulls at his door 1 more time but no more matches, we will come to say thank you each season then when the game crashes because of that on your ldc topics.

Personally, I'm not going to say how, but a reform of the LDC/VFFA would be welcome.
In my opinion, the first big problem is the draw for the whole cup, which is known from the group stages onwards. If we stay with this version, a random draw from the round of 32 onwards is essential to rekindle a bit of suspense between each round.
Then, why not make the matches return legs or introduce extra time, even if it means reducing the number of participants. (These are just ideas, I'm sure there will be some fervent critics). There's a definite advantage to playing at home, and on the fly half the matches have to end in a TAB session.
This could give the competition a new lease of life in its current format. After that, why not a new format, but that depends very much on Aymeric and the feasibility of such a formula.

Hello,

I'm only going to suggest some obvious ways of improving the current situation:

• VFFA Challenge: you don't get the results in Clubs Actualités / Clubs News, only Champions League and Federations results.
• For all the official cups, this has already been requested several times on other topics, but highlight the community aspect of the game: authorise interviews ....
  And if ever, it would be seen as increasing finances on VF, block these interviews on the written press.

I'm going off-topic here, and this message will be lost in the shuffle ... But never mind ....

Alexandre67310: Perso je ne me prononce pas sur le moyen mais une réforme de la LDC / VFFA serait bienvenue.
D’après moi le premier gros problème, c’est le tirage du tableau de toute la coupe connu dès la phases de poule. Si on reste dans cette version, un tirage aléatoire à partir des 32eme est primordial pour relancer un peu le suspense entre chaque tour.
Ensuite, pourquoi pas faire des matchs aller retour ou instaurer une prolongation, quitte à réduire le nombre de participants. (Ce sont simple

alexandre
since the pools have existed, every start of the season has been chaotic for a few days, bordering on unplayable. When these pools didn't exist there were never these problems when it was direct elimination matches.
Now I'm going to talk about 1 subject that relates directly to this pool.
the average member who has fought like mad all season in the championship to be there is almost sure not to get out of the pools
the member who is already sure of getting out of the pools can afford, as I see every season, to rotate as we say, it's fair game because you also see it in Ireland but by doing so he also distorts the pools which is forbidden here on the game.
In my opinion, the problem is not the number of clubs but the pool system instead of the direct elimination system. If the clubs only played 1 match for those who were out, you would already be limiting the schedule of matches to 1 complicated day, and Aymeric could cut it down to several levels during the day, as was already the case before with direct elimination, and it would never bug at that point.
When it becomes 1 constraint and no longer 1 pleasure for many, it has to change, even if it means going back to the way it was before
skyz when he says that there are only pools and ap is the lottery, as much as it becomes the lottery direct and members will again have this attraction of the cup.

I'd suggest putting only legends in the LDC!

Adrimax: Moi je propose de mettre que des légendes en LDC !

Come on! And a Legends Cup with free players? 😅

Deck: Beh voyons ! Et une coupe des légendes avec des libres ? 😅

And if the mug and the lr started with an 80-point penalty, that would be nice too!

After that, if, perhaps, one day, the priorities of cup matches (LDC, VFFA) were changed, we wouldn't lose 1 or 2 days in each round. And possibly include some home-and-away matches without overloading the calendar, such as from the 8th round (16 clubs), for the quarters (8 clubs) and semi-finals (4 clubs)

And a one-match final on a p**** neutral ground!

That would bring some spectacle and tactics, rather than sitting on your arse for 90 minutes waiting for the penos and praying to the god of luck... We'd have comebacks with 2 goals to make up for where there's a full on attack etc...

Coupled with the random draw after the pools, that would already be pretty good 👌

But why, at all costs, would you want to do these cups at breakneck speed?
Spreading the rounds out over the season with a final in the last week would be much more interesting and would allow the championships to start earlier, because frankly I feel sorry for those who don't qualify. In other words, anyone who isn't in the D1 of a league and has the misfortune to be knocked out of their league cup early on.
The wait at the start of the season must be interminable
After that, it's hardly surprising that many of these clubs are losing motivation and that the number of active clubs is falling all the time.

myforsans: Mais pourquoi coûte que coûte vouloir faire ces coupes au pas de charge.
Un étalement des tours dans la saison avec une finale en dernière semaine serait beaucoup plus intéressant et ça permettrait de commencer les championnats plus tôt parce que franchement je plains ceux qui ne sont pas qualifiés. En clair tous ceux qui sont pas en D1 d'un championnat) et qui ont le malheur de se faire sortir rapidement de leur coupe de la ligue.
L'attente de début de saison doit etre interminable
Ap

because the ldc is not the only cup
the members take just as much pleasure in playing the cup of their associations
Because the cup distorts the championships on the calendar because it is not the only cup and the ldc remains a priority in the organisation of the games and that the rest comes after (check to have exactly the order of the cups in the planning)
because the cup if you do it in the duration will distort the championship and this is prohibited by the rules (it is not management to favor 1 adv)
because every cup day will cause problems for our members, so the quicker it's sorted out, the fewer bugs there will be
the calendar is already overloaded and every time you add 1 thing it messes things up elsewhere
yes, you can complain about those in the lower divs and even those without a field.
la solution est simple, retirer les poules et le faire en élimination direct et tout passerera creme mais encore il faut accepter que les membres qui la joue de perdre et de se faire sortir des 1er tour car c'est de ca qu'on parle myrfosans .

myforsans: Mais pourquoi coûte que coûte vouloir faire ces coupes au pas de charge.
Un étalement des tours dans la saison avec une finale en dernière semaine serait beaucoup plus intéressant et ça permettrait de commencer les championnats plus tôt parce que franchement je plains ceux qui ne sont pas qualifiés. En clair tous ceux qui sont pas en D1 d'un championnat) et qui ont le malheur de se faire sortir rapidement de leur coupe de la ligue.
L'attente de début de saison doit etre interminable
Ap

In reality, a calendar with the group/qualifying phase before the start of the championship, a direct elimination phase at the end of the championship...at least until the semi-finals...and the last four at the end of the season would be nice, but alas, it won't please everyone

We could also imagine a pool championship system with 6/7 pool matches and quarters directly between the top 8. There are quite a few possible adaptations, I think.

And what about matches with more xG and chances?
Because we often get bored watching matches that last 1 hour 30 minutes for 5 chances and 0.6xG.

Skyz: Et sinon à quand des matchs avec plus d’xG et d’occasions?
Parce qu’on s’ennuie bien souvent devant des matchs qui durent 1h30 pour 5 occasions et 0.6xG.

It all depends on the way each player plays - you can't ask for more xGs when you play defensively in a 4-5-1 formation, and that's generally the case in the Champions League for quite a few clubs, but that's another debate if you want to open up an improvement project

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