Demi-cerveau |
6 month agoHi, following a few discussions today about the VF prize list and the general and season rankings, I'd like to suggest the following change, inspired by the various sports with rankings that I know.
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on the one hand, the club prize list for the season and the general ranking would disappear. In my view, the prize list should reward club performances in competitions. The VF ranking is not, strictly speaking, a competition, since the clubs that appear in first and second place have potentially not played in any cup or championship together.
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on the other hand, in the club history sheet, the best ranking obtained in the club's history could be included under the heading "ranking", as well as the number of weeks it has held this position. We could also add the best ranking over a season if you think it's relevant, as well as the season in which it was achieved. For example, for a prestigious VF club, this could read:
"Best ranking: 1st (210 weeks)"
"Best club ranking of the season: 1st (season 64)"
I think this would be a better tribute to clubs that have dominated vf at some point in their history than a line in the palmarès lost in season 47 (for example). And the prize list would only contain trophies won by the manager.
As an example, I'm putting up a screen of my club's history, so that everyone can see where the best positions achieved would appear.
image](https://i.imgur.com/ODwJDXz.jpeg)
I look forward to reading your opinion on this subject. All the best.
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Magpie |
6 month agoSo, having discussed it with you this afternoon, I can put forward some arguments. Everyone is free to decide for themselves.
The ranking is an extension of the official competitions, but also of the friendly matches, which are capped at 3 pts and therefore force you to play competitions all the way rather than just friendlies, in order to 'play' the ranking.
So, in contrast, I think it's a good idea to reward not only a club that has had a record-breaking 'one-shot' season, but also a line in the league table. Even if it's 7th place, I think it's nice. Better than a bonus. And then, we'll give it the importance we want. Each club has its own vision of what's interesting and what isn't (CDF rankings, promoted players rankings, etc)
In the same way, the 3-season regularity ranking seems nice too, because frankly, it's really not easy to get up there. It really isn't. It means long runs in cups for 3 seasons in a row, near-perfect finishes in the league, IE wins against 7-index teams and above, and so on.
But personally, I attach a certain importance to it, so obviously I like this ranking. But once again, everyone will have their own preferences. Others don't care about these rankings, and maybe they're right. Everyone has their own vision of VF.
In any case, this 'competition' exists, with its 'rules', its possibilities and so on. It seems relevant to me at the moment. With the possible exception of the allocation of championship points won in season S+1.
On the other hand, your idea of a counter of weeks when you're ranked 1 is a nice one! But it's becoming obsolete with the principle of a LdC winner who scores 100 points. That means that on the 25th day of VF, you'll have a club right up there with no room for debate. At least until almost the end of the season. That would skew everything I think. But not a bad idea at all, with the old format.
I'd like to make it clear that this is a bias and that I'm not necessarily objective. I play in this ranking and I'm fairly well placed. So this opinion is to be taken with these data.
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Demi-cerveau |
6 month agoMagpie, I don't quite understand the last part of your argument. In my mind, the number of weeks in the best position concerns the overall ranking, so it's over 3 seasons, not just one. What's more, it's not a question of weeks in a row but of a cumulative total, so even if a surprise LDC winner takes that number 1 spot for a while, that wouldn't prevent a prestigious and regular club from taking over that top spot a little later on, and increasing the number of weeks they've spent as number 1.
For that matter, when a surprise nation wins the World Cup, it leaps up the FIFA rankings. When a surprise tennis player wins a Grand Slam tournament, they jump up the ATP rankings. I don't think the fact that a surprise winner of the LDC makes a leap in the VF rankings is a problem. If he doesn't confirm his success in the following seasons, 3 seasons later, his exceptional season will no longer be taken into account in the calculation of his ranking, which will drop. But in the history section of his club's website, the ranking corresponding to his moment of glory would be highlighted forever.
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Magpie |
6 month agoAh, you're right. If it's the "3 seasons" ranking that's taken into account, yes, it becomes totally viable indeed.
In any case, this 2nd proposal sounds nice.
However, as you'll have realised, I totally disagree with the first one. I really like the idea of 'rewarding' winners for this ranking. I exclude myself, of course
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