micha02 |
01/07/2024Hi, I was thinking that for a player, he could leave his deal for free in the middle of the season, no matter when, as a wildcard to avoid being blocked against his will.
A free release to pursue his season freely 👍
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Dino_ |
01/07/2024What if he owes money to the agreement?micha02 : Hi, I thought that for a player, he could leave his agreement for free in the middle of the season, at any time, as a wildcard to avoid being blocked against his will.
A free release to continue his season freely
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lens59 |
01/07/2024Some would make 10 agreements per season.
Financial aid and goodbye
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micha02 |
01/07/2024Maybe just put a close, with a style of repayment.
I've thought about it, but I'm talking about a player who doesn't owe anything and just wants to leave
I haven't sorted everything out yet 😂
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Dino_ |
01/07/2024I've thought about it, but I'm talking about a player who doesn't owe anything and just wants to leave
After that I haven't sorted everything out
If he doesn't owe anything, he can leave the deal any way he wants can't he???
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micha02 |
01/07/2024No, you have to pay a certain amount to leave at the height of the season, you can ask to leave, but some people may hold you back voluntarily 👍
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Akram |
01/07/2024If he doesn't owe anything, he can leave the agreement as he likes, can't he?micha02 : Maybe just put a close, with a repayment style.
I've thought about it, but I'm talking about a player who doesn't owe anything and just wants to leave
After that I haven't sorted everything out
Non , sa a été modifié ya 4, 5 saison a la nouvelle réforme
Sa fausse le tableau si tu quit en plein saison
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micha02 |
01/07/2024There's nothing to stop you leaving the points if you've played IE, but when things go wrong, you can leave, and without penalty of course
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micha02 |
01/07/2024I think we can find a coherent solution, a player with no debt can leave once in the season, wildcard, he of course leaves the points to the agreement, he may be blocked for ie on the current season in his new agreement, but would not be blocked once by someone who does not want to let him go.
I think we can find an improvement solution for players who have and I repeat no debt to the deal 👍
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Bossart |
01/07/2024When I see how much money some clubs are given by certain agreements for financial aid, I'd like to know how they're going to pay it back. In the short term, small clubs will never pay back the agreements. So there will be no fairness in the championships between managers.
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micha02 |
01/07/2024I'm not saying that everything is good, and I don't have all the answers, but why not block the clubs until they have paid back the money, with a message saying how much they have to pay back in order to leave the agreement?
There's room for improvement, that's for sure
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Bossart |
01/07/2024I've just looked at a level 4 club, the agreement has given 25 million in 2 months for a repayment of 200,000 thousand euros. So when is this club going to repay this amount? Financial aid model to be reviewed very quickly.
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junior |
01/07/2024Ça peut être un don et non un prêt ?
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Dino_ |
01/07/2024And everyone manages as they wish, it's not the only model that currently exists on VF.
You can largely succeed without the help of an agreement.
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Bossart |
01/07/2024It is marked financial aid and, as stipulated in the agreement regulations, all financial aid must be repaid.
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micha02 |
01/07/2024Yes, perhaps we should get to the bottom of the story, I'm not saying that those who have to pay back can leave normally, I'm saying to block those who have a debt until it's paid back, but to free those who are clean and want to change because their agreement is no longer working 👍
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Drezzo35 |
01/07/2024Not necessarily
We don't ask for premiums to be reimbursed, for example
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Bossart |
01/07/2024I think it's unfair, especially when you're competing against them in a championship
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micha02 |
01/07/2024Not necessarily, the person who leaves in the middle of the season, and I repeat without any financial worries, would not be able to play again before the start of the pro season ^^
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Lebaygue |
01/07/2024And let's face it, no money involved, mid-season, relationship problems with his agreement, immediate termination, what would be the benefit to the club?
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micha02 |
01/07/2024What do you mean by benefiting the club? Apart from being released and being free to go elsewhere
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Drezzo35 |
01/07/2024On the other hand, if and only then can a club without an agreement join another one from the following season onwards. Otherwise, the door is wide open to abuse
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Lebaygue |
01/07/2024Well, you've answered my question...go and look elsewhere...and so, is it so restrictive to wait for a new season to look elsewhere?
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micha02 |
02/07/2024Sometimes it is, there are agreements that abuse as much as the clubs, and if we condemn the behaviour of players who don't pay back, the opposite can also be criticised and a club with no worries could be entitled to leave straight away, without having to wait until the end of the season
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kiki-sainté |
02/07/2024As chairman, I'm going to tell you that if he hasn't played an ie, he asks the chairman to sack him
Knowing that at the nwo we don't lend money it makes too much fuss, if you play ie and you want to leave then you wait until the end of the season
If you don't play ie then you simply ask the chairman
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Arazosv |
02/07/2024Waiting a whole season to change your agreement because you've played one match ie and then you're stuck, I can understand that it's a pain to give 50k to an agreement every week on top of being stuck
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kiki-sainté |
02/07/2024If you delete a member, you lose the ie points they have earned, which is also a pain, as you say
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bluethunders26 |
02/07/2024If he doesn't have a loan and doesn't play ie, in principle he can leave on his own without asking his chairman to sack himkiki-sainté : As chairman I'll tell you that if he hasn't played an ie he asks the chairman to sack him
Knowing that at the nwo we don't lend money it makes too much fuss, if you play ie and you want to leave well you wait until the end of the season
If you don't play ie then you simply ask the chairman
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kiki-sainté |
02/07/2024I had a case where he couldn't leave without an ie and without a loan, or maybe it dated back to rtg3
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bluethunders26 |
02/07/2024
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kiki-sainté |
02/07/2024But if, for example, you're in my agreement and you don't want to pay and you haven't played any games or borrowed any money
I'll fire you and it won't cost anyone anything
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Arazosv |
02/07/2024It all depends on the circumstances that led to the manager being blocked. I was blocked by several agreements, I never received my ie bonuses either, even though they were played seriously, losing the points you didn't pay for isn't a bad thing in my humble opinionkiki-sainté : If you kick the member out you lose the ie points he brought in, it's a pain too as you say
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kiki-sainté |
02/07/2024We're talking about starting an agreement without having played or given any money, so we've always paid, which makes sense
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micha02 |
02/07/2024Personally, I was talking about leaving the points to the agreement for the points taken, but letting the player leave anyway
The problem today is the points earned that you can lose if you sack the player, but if you no longer lose the points, the player can leave in my opinion 👍
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foif |
02/07/2024That was the case before I stopped playing, except that there was a lot of abuse in IS, players would do their IEs with an agreement, then a few IS, and then go to agreement 1 or 2 and the same players would do IS again etc ... In my memory (yes, because it dates back to a bunch of years ago) there had been real abuse with a slightly similar system.
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micha02 |
02/07/2024That's why I think leaving the pts to the deal in question would be interesting despite a departure, and blocking the player in question from ie for the new deal, no abuse if the points are left and he can do nothing of the season 👍
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foif |
02/07/2024If abuse in IS, I did indeed say IS!
A few years ago there were clubs that were only used for IS and went from 1 to 2 continually during the season just to provide IS players!
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micha02 |
02/07/2024So possibly departure from the agreement, no loss of IE points, no match possible for the player leaving for another agreement, and if the same agreement, impossible to use his players, a bit like the federation when there's a player you can't use
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foif |
02/07/2024that's a lot of conditions to deploy for very few cases, well I imagine, no I hope so ^^
I don't think there are many agreements that totally block members who want to leave. And if an IE point is won and the player wants to leave, a season is 56 days, so waiting around fifty days isn't catastrophic I don't think. That's just one point of view.
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micha02 |
02/07/2024For some people for whom this would not go down well, I think that 50 days may be very or even too long, and my point of view is the same 👍
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foif |
02/07/2024that's for sure, but after that nothing obliges you to take part in the life of the agreement for the time remaining in the season and if you already have another agreement, you can have taken part in the life of the future agreement without having joined it definitively. This allows you to better appreciate the few days left in the season before you can leave your agreement with peace of mind
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micha02 |
02/07/2024I'll come back with more arguments one day
I'm going to work on it
A closed and thank you to participants 😉
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