Hello, who are these players with 49 potential with so many points in the last few days?? C. Kalang

A. Freeman I. Prasanna

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The problem is that players are bought for next to nothing. Resold to other clubs (often in the same agreement) x10/15 the price. There are loads of examples out there...

During the discord live Aymeric said that there were players in the game with unexploited skills to be found he didn't say more but as it stands if you don't pay it's unusable it's the start of an answer

iMcCarthy77: Lors du live discord Aymeric a dit qu'il yavait des joueurs sur le jeu avec des compétences inexploités à trouver il en a pas dit plus mais en l'état si tu payes pas c'est inutilisable c'est un début de réponse

Thanks for the start of the explanation, but if that's the case isn't it a bit unbalanced to buy 49s with potential for 100k that you can transform into 95NG?

Basically, there's no point in training if you have money? 🤔. Just take out your credit card and go pluck all the level 1s. Or, you can even send the people from your agreement, like that in passing they make a x10/15 profit on a player bought for 100k that you buy back from them for 7 million.

Skyz: Merci du début de l'explication, mais si c'est le cas c'est pas un peu déséquilibré d'acheter des 49 de potentiel à 100k que tu peux transformer en 95NG?

There are a few, it's very small in terms of percentage when Aymeric spoke about it we all started looking everywhere... I explored free players without success until I stumbled upon it by chance on the Riboby club, it's a pretty fun idea personally I was able to get two who will stay with me until they retire... having not much means in the bank it will give me a little help and it's not a refusal

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For this player I. Prasanna So Pot 59 which became a NG85. If we look at the table of values in the regulations, a 23/24 year old of NG 85/89 has a value of 50M. So the minimum direct sale price was 25M This player was bought for 7M. My question to the admins is therefore to know if this transfer will be cancelled yes or no?

jul068: Pour ce joueur
I. Prasanna

Donc Pot 59 qui est devenu un NG85.
Si on regarde le tableau des valeurs dans le règlement, un 23/24 ans de NG 85/89 a une valeur de 50M. Donc le prix mini de vente direct était de 25M
Ce joueur a été acheté 7M.

Ma question aux admins est donc de savoir si ce transfert sera annulé oui ou non?

It's even worse because he's progressing, he'll end up much higher than that 😆

jul068: Pour ce joueur
I. Prasanna

Donc Pot 59 qui est devenu un NG85.
Si on regarde le tableau des valeurs dans le règlement, un 23/24 ans de NG 85/89 a une valeur de 50M. Donc le prix mini de vente direct était de 25M
Ce joueur a été acheté 7M.

Ma question aux admins est donc de savoir si ce transfert sera annulé oui ou non?

And initially it was crap.. So I already overpaid the player as is. I used IRL money (10 euros exactly) to reallocate him. Personally I have very little finance, I saw an opportunity to reassign 2 players to improve my team... As imcarthy said previously, it was announced by Aymeric during his discord live.

Noah15: Et initialement c'était une daube.. J'ai donc déjà surpayé le joueur en l'état.
J'ai utilisé de l'argent IRL (10 euro exactement) pour le réattribuer.
Personnellement j'ai très peu de finance, j'ai vu une opportunité de réa 2 joueurs pour améliorer mon équipe... Comme l'a dit précédent imcarthy, ça a été annoncé par Aymeric lors de son live discord.

Too bad not to announce it to the community but just on the voice discord :/

If the sale is authorized because at the time of the sale he had a ng59 but with a multitude of points to reallocate, it could be a new way to divert transfers. Imagine I have a ng90 that I want to give to a friend. I reallocate it by modifying its points to make it an ng55. I sell it to him for 1M and he then makes a rea. He will lose points along the way but it remains ultra profitable. The value of the transfer must be made on the accumulation of points of the characteristics not on a disguised ng

It will end at 94 ng, it is indeed an unprecedented but interesting case, in any case great finds :)

jul068: Pour ce joueur
I. Prasanna

Donc Pot 59 qui est devenu un NG85.
Si on regarde le tableau des valeurs dans le règlement, un 23/24 ans de NG 85/89 a une valeur de 50M. Donc le prix mini de vente direct était de 25M
Ce joueur a été acheté 7M.

Ma question aux admins est donc de savoir si ce transfert sera annulé oui ou non?

Hi Jul Except that if you don't pay this player is absolutely unusable..Unlike marking style or other.. to integrate into your parameters So you are forced to pay at least 10€..It remains a significant sum...and Aymeric boosts the reallocation as a result

W. Daniels There are loads of players like that at level 1. Even those coming out of the CDF have scattered points (less).

jul068: Si la vente est autorisée car au moment de la vente il avait bien une ng59 mais avec une multitude de point à réatribuer, ça pourrait être un nouveau moyen de détourner les transferts.

Imaginez j’ai un ng90 que je veux donner à un pote. Je le réatribue en modifiant ses points pour en faire un ng55. Je lui vends pour 1M et lui derrière refait une réa. Il va perdre des points en cours de route mais ça reste ultra rentable.

La valeur du transfert doit ce faire sur le cumul des poin

Your example, the player will cost you 20 euros +1m, do you think it will be a gift? Personally I don't think so lol

Alexandre67310: Il finira à 94 ng, c’est effectivement un cas inédit mais intéressant, en tout cas belles trouvailles :)

Thanks to Aymeric, do you know if others will be involved?

By searching a little you can easily find a good ten more, the one that your colleague just mentioned above will not be far from 99 ng with good work

D. Banks Not seen before reassignment but it makes a nice player I have the impression that the game automatically offers this type of player at level 1, see with the low levels of your agreements if they don't have a message in the manager's office, in the middle of the news, in "here is a great recruiting opportunity" mode; I know that it happened like that a few months ago

Anyway now that I figured out how to find them, I looked, and it's really very recent. There are still 7 days ago this type of player did not exist ^^ For those who want there is one at auction, and it ends soon: J. Jeong

jul068: Pour ce joueur
I. Prasanna

Donc Pot 59 qui est devenu un NG85.
Si on regarde le tableau des valeurs dans le règlement, un 23/24 ans de NG 85/89 a une valeur de 50M. Donc le prix mini de vente direct était de 25M
Ce joueur a été acheté 7M.

Ma question aux admins est donc de savoir si ce transfert sera annulé oui ou non?

I don't know, I asked the question. It bothers me a lot that I'm not aware of the existence of these types of players personally.

iMcCarthy77: Salut Jul
Sauf que si tu payes pas ce joueur est absolument inutilisable..A la différence de marquage style ou autre .. à intégrer dans tes paramètres
Donc t es force de payer au minimum 10€ ..Ça reste une somme importante...et Aymeric boost de ce fait la réattribution

You seem to be missing the point. At that rate, you might as well put 90ng players for 10 euros and 1 million symbolic VF in the store. It will come to the same thing in the end. Except it has never been done. Why do it now in a disguised way? I strongly suspect that it is a very localized bug in time, like for the players who had left the CDF for a few hours with points from everywhere. There are no more today. In any case, I have reported it. I hope for a quick response.

Demi-cerveau: Tu me sembles à côté de la plaque. À ce compte là, autant mettre des joueurs 90ng pour 10 euros et 1 million VF symbolique au store. Ça reviendra au même au final. Hors ça n'a jamais été fait. Pourquoi le faire maintenant de manière déguisé ? Je soupçonne fortement qu'il s'agit d'un bug très localisé dans le temps, comme pour les joueurs qui étaient sortis pendant quelques heures des cdf avec des points de partout. Il n'y en a plus aujourd'hui.

En tout cas j'ai fait remonter.

Aymeric said during the discord live that players like that were put on the game and that it was up to us to find them...which had to be demonstrated

But maybe I'm way off base, we'll see...

Demi-cerveau: Tu me sembles à côté de la plaque. À ce compte là, autant mettre des joueurs 90ng pour 10 euros et 1 million VF symbolique au store. Ça reviendra au même au final. Hors ça n'a jamais été fait. Pourquoi le faire maintenant de manière déguisé ? Je soupçonne fortement qu'il s'agit d'un bug très localisé dans le temps, comme pour les joueurs qui étaient sortis pendant quelques heures des cdf avec des points de partout. Il n'y en a plus aujourd'hui.

En tout cas j'ai fait remonter.

I think it's not a bug, or it's a huge coincidence. This type of player arrives on the game at the same time as Aymeric's announcement during the discord live, namely that "underrated players are present on the game" and that "we could go through the search module to query the database and find them" This clearly means that players who stand out a little from the crowd are circulating on the game... At first I thought it was something like a player in the wrong position or with the wrong instructions, but when you see these players flourishing at the same time, it's quite easy to imagine that it's completely voluntary and that it refers to the leader's message. And even if I rather agree with you, as I'm pretty sure that it's not a bug, I'm also going to try to buy one or two. It's an opportunity to seize and it may not last forever. If it turns out to be a bug, of course, the transfers can be canceled. I'll wait and see before reassigning (I'm talking as if I already had some, even though... there are people on the file)

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Bug or not, the transfers do not respect the minimums provided.

Noah15: W. Daniels

Il y en a la pelle des joueurs comme ça chez les niveaux 1.
Même ceux sortant des CDF ont des points éparpillés (moins).

The guy when he goes to see his PMs and the number of offers received during the night 🤣

maxence97300: Le mec quand il va voir ses MP et le nombre d'offres reçues dans la nuit 🤣

Maybe thats the true way... we didnt even know about it.

I maintain that when I add up the points and divide by two and look at the transfer prices, it poses a problem for me. The fact that these players exist the same season that the anti-cheat admins were required to create a transfer regulation with a whole bunch of tables (and it was Morten who did it, poor guy), which was of course validated by Aymeric himself, also poses a big problem for me. The fact that these players are finally sold for a song to very smart clubs that are going to try to hit level 1 still poses a problem for me. Assuming that it is voluntary, that all this is potentially decided and announced during a live discord without any anti-cheat admin having been informed, I find that it is still a problem. There are a lot of things that pose a problem for me at the moment, and not intending to become schizophrenic (or be taken for an idiot), I am going to have to decide something.

I advise you to cut to the chase 😉

Already a very important question, fundamental even: when we know that this type of player must go through the star grinder to be used, should it be based on the same criteria concerning the VF price to spend? The store has been useless for a level 10 for years. Special players are much too expensive and bring nothing, we can find better level players, cheaper, on the game. Paying 50 stars + double the normal price, no thanks. Suddenly, by re-allocating on this type of player, it is the only way for the one who pays to have an interest and an advantage with his stars. But if he has to pay the full price in VF money he loses his advantage and suddenly he also loses his incentive to spend money in the game. Here is another problem for you Demi, it's the evening. The one is clearly knowing if we put another CB hit (and therefore finance the game) or if we abstain as we have for a very (too) long time ^^

I must have missed something? If I look at the players, they are all improving. Saying that the transfers do not respect the rule seems factually false to me. But I am surely wrong. Having bought one at auction, he cost me 2.8m. This type of player did not exist during the study of the rules put in place. I do not see the point of hiding players to buy them full price and spend 10 euros... after that it is possible that the players mentioned by Aymeric are not that. Only Aymeric can say if this is a voluntary event or a bug. So wait and see.

Teddy: J'ai sûrement loupé un truc ?

Si je regarde les joueurs ils sont tous en progression . Dire que les transfert ne respecte pas la règle me semble factuellement faux.
Mais je me trompe sûrement.

Pour en avoir acheté un aux enchères, il m'a coûte 2.8m.
Ce type de joueur n'existait pas pendant l'étude des règles mise en place. Je vois pas l'intérêt de cacher des joueurs pour les acheter plein tar

The margin provided in relation to the given values should allow the players in question to be taken into account, except that we end up with players who are completely outside the norm (the values on table A contradict C in this case)

I agree, I've never seen a player like that before.

We want to make the game realistic, congratulations for this lunar change. There are other ways to help small clubs. A few more like these and I will go back to where I came from on an extended break.

Another story of optimization on this subject…

We will recall during the live that Aymeric told us that he had dragged down the progression of the youngsters because there were too many big players in the game (probably rightly so) And in the end, in the process, he released this kind of crazy players. The very unpleasant impression that for a few weeks there has been no common thread and that we are openly pissed on. Well, I imagine that we will have to get used to it.

I didn't understand if this was going to become something regular? Or just a spontaneous action?

This goes completely against the spirit of the law, while being strictly within the rules. It is annoying, to say the least.

It's still funny to note that this phenomenon appears just after the release of Morten's tables which required a huge amount of work to try to regulate a transfer market that was subject to many abuses. If it is not a bug, the appearance of these pussies and their "hidden abilities" (except for those who pay) allows, in my eyes, to blithely circumvent and discredit this work or, at the very least, make it unusable. Still to the extent that it is not a bug, the fact that the anti-cheat administrators are not informed of the creation of this spontaneous generation is revealing. Finally, I wonder why they rack their brains and spend their time trying to make this game cleaner and fairer. A good explanation of the phenomenon by Aymeric would be desirable.

That level 1s are encouraged to stay in the game and not get discouraged by granting them certain favors does not bother me. What is annoying is the established clubs that exploit the ignorance or perhaps even the complicity of level 1 clubs to take advantage of them. From the moment there are tables framing the transfer prices, the admins must apply them. But here the problem comes I think from the fact that table C (for young players) is not adapted to this type of player created from scratch since it is based solely on the player's potential and not on the total points. By developing table C and then implementing it, there will no longer be a problem, only level 1s will benefit from the gift that is given to them.

Frankly it's catastrophic these new players what's the point of making tables to get these players out 1 week later? Especially so that the level 1s get stripped by the others who will have understood that the player is worth much more than the NG displayed.. if it's just a story of "Pay to win" might as well directly put NG 85/90 in the store at 10€ and it comes to the same but this is really a disaster.

Level 1s are not going to be stripped, they are multi-accounts, don't worry, some people will still benefit from this... some people know what they are doing!

The problem is not the level 1, the players offered by the game were selling around 200k and 500k now they sell between 500 and 10m or more. Knowing that they recover 1 per day for (cmb of time?) I don't think we should have a little or big tear for them. I completely agree that these players are counterproductive just like the 80 pot of 18 year olds without progression. The rules are not adapted to the player like that nor to the player to be redefined as a general rule. It would be necessary to at least take into account the money needed to make a player bad to very good.

These players should be taxed as vfstore players to avoid abuse... that solves the problem of scams and the like