Hello VF team and hello Teddy!

For several games now, I've been trying out Fluid Defence, which looks interesting on paper.
Problem: I really feel like nothing's happening.

Are any of you using it? I like everything that's fluid IRL so I'd like to try it on VF.

steril: Hello la team VF et salut Teddy !

Depuis plusieurs matchs, je teste La Défense fluide qui sur le papier a l air intéressante.
Problème : j ai vraiment l impression que rien ne se passe.

Y en a parmi vous qui l’utilise ? J aime bien tout ce qui est fluide IRL alors je voudrais m y mettre sur VF.

I always use it

BE CAREFUL THOUGH, YOU CAN'T FIELD 5 STRIKERS AS IT'S AGAINST THE LAW 😂😂😂😂

Eden Hzrd: FAIT ATTENTION PAR CONTRE TU PEUX PAS ALIGNER 5 ATTAQUANTS C’EST INTERDIT PAR LA LOI 😂😂😂😂

You're really into it tonight 😅

To answer the question, personally I've never seen any difference...

It's just a big mess that will never be put back the way it was, and that's the worst of it.

Personally, I use it... what's the difference?

Fluid enough to take goals against bigger opponents!
And fluid enough not to score against someone smaller than you!

So I think it's like some fluids, it just slips in!

Fluid defence sucks, it doesn't prevent you from losing a match!

But it's not unusual for you to lose a slice!
Add carrots to the mix and you've got a winning combo!

OK, so basically it's useless!
I'd heard it was sometimes used to counter opponents who move every 3 minutes, but it seemed too easy to me as a counter tactic.

It works, I often see reports on my matches where I have more stats on the side of my defence where I'm being attacked than on the other, even though I'm "Blocking the lanes" without favouring one side in particular with a DM or DL on that flank.

shinchan2111: Ça fonctionne, je vois souvent des actus sur mes matchs où j'ai plus de stats sur le côté de ma défense où je suis attaqué que sur l'autre, alors que je suis en "Bloquer les couloirs" sans privilégier un côté en particulier avec un MD ou un DL sur ce flan

Is this the side where your dfl is strongest? 🤣

No, no, I swear 😂

steril: Hello la team VF et salut Teddy !

Depuis plusieurs matchs, je teste La Défense fluide qui sur le papier a l air intéressante.
Problème : j ai vraiment l impression que rien ne se passe.

Y en a parmi vous qui l’utilise ? J aime bien tout ce qui est fluide IRL alors je voudrais m y mettre sur VF.

Why call Teddy? It's a strange desire, it seems to me it's been several times.
To come back to your question, it's not because there's an impression that nothing's happening that nothing's happening. The MDM has its mysteries, otherwise why such a possibility?

You should change the name of your agreement once again, or put a statue of Teddy outside your door!
given the idol he represents for you.

pixou: pourquoi en appeler à Teddy ? c'est bizarre cette envie, il me semble que cela fait plusieurs fois .
Pour en revenir à ta question , ce n'est pas parce que , il y a une impression que rien ne passe , qu'il ne se passe rien . le MDM a ses mystères , sinon pourquoi une telle possibilité .

Some people like provocation, and as 90% of the time provocation is not punished, they continue.
All they need is a rattle and they're the happiest people in the world.
You're pitiful, Cp, grow up a bit.
Cp finally it's well chosen 👍😂

Humour Mina, humour Mina.
We also have the right to laugh. Saying hello to Teddy isn't wrong in itself.
It's just a joke....

And I'm not the spokesperson for the CPs, just a guy who likes to make jokes. In our agreement, there's no one way of thinking or speaking. Everyone is free to think what they want. We don't force people to put on an outfit, nor do we force them to all say the same thing.
So now you know!
I apologise if my Teddy greeting offended you and hurt your IRL life.

steril: L humour Mina , l humour Mina.
On a aussi le droit de rire, dire salut Teddy n est pas condamnable en soi.
C est juste une vanne….

Et je ne suis pas le porte parole des CP , juste un mec qui aime vanner. Dans notre entente, il n y a pas de pensée unique ou de parole unique. Chacun est libre de penser ce qu il est veut. On ne force pas les gens à mettre une tenue, on ne les force pas non plus à tous dire la meme chose.
Voilà tu es au courant désormais !
Je m excuse si Mon salut Teddy t a ...

Humour? It goes both ways.
Teddy was a fan of that, but when it came from him you took it differently (strangely).
90% of what you say you bring Teddy back to the mat. Do you miss him that much?
In no way do you offend me, with your idol Teddy we must be among the oldest who take the scud in the face without complaining too much to the admi. (And we even take the sanctions ourselves .... without going crying to get the penalty back).
Even more so now that I've emptied my bank 🤣
You play on provocation ( frankly on my side I like that too )
Mais vos savoir envoyer des piques et les recevoir ;)

Have you tried La Défense fluid?
That's what this topic is about! Not Teddy's Defence

Who's Teddy?

I've never liked fluid defence. You sink into it like melted butter!
Personally, my mother preferred anything creamy. What a Proust's madeleine it would be if the MDJ allowed us to play with a creamy defence instead of a fluid one!

minadinho: Car certain aiment la provocation, et comme 90% des fois la provocation et pas sanctionné forcément il continuent .
Il leur manque juste un hochet et ils sont les plus heureux du monde .
Vous faite pitié les cp grandissez un peut .
Cp finalement c’est bien choisit 👍😂

We're having a major internal discussion about changing our tags for CE1 at the beginning of September :p

brewen: On a une discussion primordiale en cours en interne pour changer nos tag en CE1 début Septembre justement :p

Good for you Brewer 👍
And your cspt tag? Next merge add teddy you only have him in your mouth .
Steril not sure that your initial position was to know for fluid defense ...
If not really Teddy must even be at the time of your dreams!
Teddy n'est plus la ... parler sur lui ne sert à rien c est brassé de l'air .
Je veut bien prendre le relais ;)

So this fluid defence ...
Does it work or not? 🙃
I'm interested too

Having used it for a whole season... sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

in short, we don't know :p

It works with precise instructions

🥲🥲

Blagoje Vidinic: Pour l'avoir utilisée pendant toute une saison... des fois ça marche, des fois ça marche pas.

Are you sure you used it correctly?

But I was under the impression that it's an instruction when you're AFK. Maybe I'm wrong because I don't use it.

Blagoje Vidinic: Pour l'avoir utilisée pendant toute une saison... des fois ça marche, des fois ça marche pas.

We'll make good progress with that! Thank you 🤣

I played an afk not long ago. Every time I attacked on one side, he defended on the same side.

michbou: bref ; nous savons pas :p

In my opinion, Blagoje knows but doesn't want to tell us!

Are you a fan of garcimor blagoje?

So I'm going to dedicate myself AND test on my match today
Your predictions 🙉🦧🙊🙈☺️

Ahhhhhh I'm going to send blagoje a screenshot of my match technique

I've always used it. Given I play a lot of games without any players who impact defensive ratings on sides and always play high press, would my defensive ratings on side be 0 if I changed it to rigid?
Might give it a go in a friendly one day.

I love this collective spirit where we all work together to make progress as a team, whatever our colour or footballing background. It restores my faith in humanity!

Great speech ☺️😁 Run for President of France 🙈🙊🙉

Ah here is the result of the match played In fluid defence
#match?mid=6399595
Do your analysis 🤣

It's a pity that the fluid defence dried up towards the end of the game.

Bison futée tells you if it's fluid

Fluid defence requires more physical effort from the player and therefore reduces the statistics at the end of matches.

passion: La Défense fluide demande plus de physique au joueur et donc diminue les statistiques en fins de matchs

Thank you Sherlock

I say it's not bad when you don't want to get caught out when your opponent frantically changes sides ^^.

I've always used fluid defence. Because I'm often afk and this "small" variation in stats is enough against timid players. On the other hand, it obviously has its limits when you're dealing with players who pack 150+ on one side. So of course my results don't speak in its favour, but you just have to realise that it's less effective than a manual change of tactic, but more effective than being afk and being outflanked on one side.

I've taken screenshots of my instructions with the match stats, and the fluid defence does have an impact by increasing the stats on the side being attacked.

image](https://i.imgur.com/9DlZQY7.jpeg)
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I've always wondered if the "fluid defence" mode wasn't buggy when you set your defence to something other than "normal".
Maybe it only works when you leave it normal (no pressing, blocking the corridor, etc).

I think today in IS, at the end of the match, that the fluid defence changed the off stats of the striker, not the defence!

Well, I'd had a few drinks, so we'll see who can understand!

There's also an impact by Blocking the corridors