steril |

11/08/2025

Hello VF team and hello Teddy!

For several games now, I've been trying out Fluid Defence, which looks interesting on paper.
Problem: I really feel like nothing's happening.

Are any of you using it? I like everything that's fluid IRL so I'd like to try it on VF.


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Jallow |

11/08/2025

I always use it


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pixou |

12/08/2025

Why call Teddy? It's a strange desire, it seems to me it's been several times.
To come back to your question, it's not because there's an impression that nothing's happening that nothing's happening. The MDM has its mysteries, otherwise why such a possibility?


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pixou pourquoi en appeler à Teddy ? c'est bizarre cette envie, il me semble que cela fait plusieurs fois . Pour en revenir à ta question , ce n'est pas parce que , i…

minadinho |

13/08/2025

Some people like provocation, and as 90% of the time provocation is not punished, they continue.
All they need is a rattle and they're the happiest people in the world.
You're pitiful, Cp, grow up a bit.
Cp finally it's well chosen 👍😂


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minadinho Car certain aiment la provocation, et comme 90% des fois la provocation et pas sanctionné forcément il continuent . Il leur manque juste un hochet et ils sont …

brewen |

13/08/2025

We're having a major internal discussion about changing our tags for CE1 at the beginning of September :p


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brewen On a une discussion primordiale en cours en interne pour changer nos tag en CE1 début Septembre justement :p

minadinho |

13/08/2025

Good for you Brewer 👍
And your cspt tag? Next merge add teddy you only have him in your mouth .
Steril not sure that your initial position was to know for fluid defense ...
If not really Teddy must even be at the time of your dreams!
Teddy n'est plus la ... parler sur lui ne sert à rien c est brassé de l'air .
Je veut bien prendre le relais ;)


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Eden Hzrd |

11/08/2025

BE CAREFUL THOUGH, YOU CAN'T FIELD 5 STRIKERS AS IT'S AGAINST THE LAW 😂😂😂😂


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k3vin59218 |

11/08/2025

You're really into it tonight 😅

To answer the question, personally I've never seen any difference...


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Eden Hzrd |

11/08/2025

It's just a big mess that will never be put back the way it was, and that's the worst of it.


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Brutus |

11/08/2025

Personally, I use it... what's the difference?

Fluid enough to take goals against bigger opponents!
And fluid enough not to score against someone smaller than you!

So I think it's like some fluids, it just slips in!


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Lebaygue |

11/08/2025

Fluid defence sucks, it doesn't prevent you from losing a match!


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Brutus |

11/08/2025

But it's not unusual for you to lose a slice!
Add carrots to the mix and you've got a winning combo!


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steril |

11/08/2025

OK, so basically it's useless!
I'd heard it was sometimes used to counter opponents who move every 3 minutes, but it seemed too easy to me as a counter tactic.


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shinchan2111 |

11/08/2025

It works, I often see reports on my matches where I have more stats on the side of my defence where I'm being attacked than on the other, even though I'm "Blocking the lanes" without favouring one side in particular with a DM or DL on that flank.


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Pierabou |

12/08/2025

Is this the side where your dfl is strongest? 🤣


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shinchan2111 |

12/08/2025

No, no, I swear 😂


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minadinho |

13/08/2025

You should change the name of your agreement once again, or put a statue of Teddy outside your door!
given the idol he represents for you.


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steril |

13/08/2025

Humour Mina, humour Mina.
We also have the right to laugh. Saying hello to Teddy isn't wrong in itself.
It's just a joke....

And I'm not the spokesperson for the CPs, just a guy who likes to make jokes. In our agreement, there's no one way of thinking or speaking. Everyone is free to think what they want. We don't force people to put on an outfit, nor do we force them to all say the same thing.
So now you know!
I apologise if my Teddy greeting offended you and hurt your IRL life.


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minadinho |

13/08/2025

Humour? It goes both ways.
Teddy was a fan of that, but when it came from him you took it differently (strangely).
90% of what you say you bring Teddy back to the mat. Do you miss him that much?
In no way do you offend me, with your idol Teddy we must be among the oldest who take the scud in the face without complaining too much to the admi. (And we even take the sanctions ourselves .... without going crying to get the penalty back).
Even more so now that I've emptied my bank 🤣
You play on provocation ( frankly on my side I like that too )
Mais vos savoir envoyer des piques et les recevoir ;)


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steril |

13/08/2025

Have you tried La Défense fluid?
That's what this topic is about! Not Teddy's Defence


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mike59 |

13/08/2025

Who's Teddy?


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Misha |

13/08/2025

I've never liked fluid defence. You sink into it like melted butter!
Personally, my mother preferred anything creamy. What a Proust's madeleine it would be if the MDJ allowed us to play with a creamy defence instead of a fluid one!


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Felisuke |

13/08/2025

So this fluid defence ...
Does it work or not? 🙃
I'm interested too


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Blagoje Vidinic |

13/08/2025

Having used it for a whole season... sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.


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steril |

13/08/2025

Are you sure you used it correctly?


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ManuM |

13/08/2025

We'll make good progress with that! Thank you 🤣


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Azby |

13/08/2025

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michbou |

13/08/2025

in short, we don't know :p


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steril |

13/08/2025

In my opinion, Blagoje knows but doesn't want to tell us!


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Akram |

13/08/2025

It works with precise instructions


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Felisuke |

13/08/2025

🥲🥲


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Hydilik |

13/08/2025

But I was under the impression that it's an instruction when you're AFK. Maybe I'm wrong because I don't use it.


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franck40 |

13/08/2025

I played an afk not long ago. Every time I attacked on one side, he defended on the same side.


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leakcim58 |

13/08/2025

Are you a fan of garcimor blagoje?


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michbou |

13/08/2025

So I'm going to dedicate myself AND test on my match today
Your predictions 🙉🦧🙊🙈☺️


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michbou |

13/08/2025

Ahhhhhh I'm going to send blagoje a screenshot of my match technique


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Andre Malles |

13/08/2025

I've always used it. Given I play a lot of games without any players who impact defensive ratings on sides and always play high press, would my defensive ratings on side be 0 if I changed it to rigid?
Might give it a go in a friendly one day.

Andre Malles |

22/08/2025

I'm not sure I see a difference. Having started today's friendly with rigid defense and briefly changing it to fluid at the start of the second half before reverting to rigid, it looks like overall defensive rating is slightly higher (as per description), but also it seems that it's slightly higher on all sides, not higher in center and lower on sides like I anticipated. I play high pressing, so that might have something to do with it.


steril |

13/08/2025

I love this collective spirit where we all work together to make progress as a team, whatever our colour or footballing background. It restores my faith in humanity!


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michbou |

13/08/2025

Great speech ☺️😁 Run for President of France 🙈🙊🙉


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michbou |

13/08/2025

Ah here is the result of the match played In fluid defence
#match?mid=6399595
Do your analysis 🤣


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Demi-cerveau |

13/08/2025

It's a pity that the fluid defence dried up towards the end of the game.


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lens59 |

13/08/2025

Bison futée tells you if it's fluid


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passion |

13/08/2025

Fluid defence requires more physical effort from the player and therefore reduces the statistics at the end of matches.


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Zeus |

13/08/2025

Thank you Sherlock


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wildzap |

13/08/2025

I say it's not bad when you don't want to get caught out when your opponent frantically changes sides ^^.


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guantanamera |

14/08/2025

I've always used fluid defence. Because I'm often afk and this "small" variation in stats is enough against timid players. On the other hand, it obviously has its limits when you're dealing with players who pack 150+ on one side. So of course my results don't speak in its favour, but you just have to realise that it's less effective than a manual change of tactic, but more effective than being afk and being outflanked on one side.


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shinchan2111 |

16/08/2025

I've taken screenshots of my instructions with the match stats, and the fluid defence does have an impact by increasing the stats on the side being attacked.

image](https://i.imgur.com/9DlZQY7.jpeg)
image](https://i.imgur.com/9hWiLUc.jpeg)


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Magpie |

16/08/2025

I've always wondered if the "fluid defence" mode wasn't buggy when you set your defence to something other than "normal".
Maybe it only works when you leave it normal (no pressing, blocking the corridor, etc).


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Brutus |

16/08/2025

I think today in IS, at the end of the match, that the fluid defence changed the off stats of the striker, not the defence!

Well, I'd had a few drinks, so we'll see who can understand!


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shinchan2111 |

16/08/2025

There's also an impact by Blocking the corridors

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shinchan2111 |

16/08/2025

I should point out that there was no MD on one side and no DL at the time.

On the other hand, I have the impression that fluid mode isn't instantaneous and that you have to wait a while to see the statistics change in that direction.


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Eden Hzrd |

17/08/2025

DOES THE FACT THAT WE CAN'T USE 5 STRIKERS HAVE AN IMPACT?


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Ced90 |

17/08/2025

Do you fancy changing your record by any chance? ^^


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Ced90 Ça te dis pas de changer de disque par hasard? ^^

Eden Hzrd |

17/08/2025

I'm doing what some people do, I'm crying to try to get that possibility back 😂


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