ValaValla

13/09/2021
Avez-vous des solutions pour le vol de comptes syndicaux?
Certains joueurs contractent des prêts et ne remboursent jamais ou ne se déconnectent jamais.
C'est une baisse de notre qualité financière. Et aider de nouveaux clubs.
?Est-il possible de le lier à un compte de clubs comme des programmes de remboursement hebdomadaires comme la télévision, l'académie des jeunes ou la boutique.


?Exemple
1 - vous définissez le montant des paiements.
2-réglage de la date de remboursement.
3-prendre l'accord du sponsor / ou diviser les paiements comme semaine par semaine.
Solutions pour système de paiement.

⛔Et le gestionnaire qui a contracté un prêt ne peut pas laisser sans remboursement ses dettes.

C'est un projet INSANE CLUBS UNION

Austin

13/09/2021
English man?

Nivek87

13/09/2021
Austin : English man?
Anglophone oui, c'est indiqué sur la page de son entente.

ValaValla

13/09/2021
Austin : English man?
Austin It's presented in our Unions forum too.

Blagoje Vidinic

13/09/2021
ValaValla : Avez-vous des solutions pour le vol de comptes syndicaux?[...]
The only way to avoid rogue people from robbing your union is to think twice before given any money.
Maybe if managers had to wait a whole season and show good behavio towards the union, you'd have fewers problems.
I'm just saying... ;)

ValaValla

13/09/2021
Blagoje Vidinic :
ValaValla : Avez-vous des solutions pour le vol de comptes syndicaux?[...]
The only way to avoid rogue people from robbing your union is to think twice before given any money.
Maybe if managers had to wait a whole season and show good behavio towards the union, you'd have fewers problems.
I'm just saying... ;)
It's quite unfortunate for new members they deserve more chance

Blagoje Vidinic

13/09/2021
You can't do both. If you want to help new members, you have to accept that some of them do not follow the rules and use your union to get rich.
It's unfortunate, but there is a choice to be made.

Pierabou

13/09/2021
I agree with blagdoje, if you want to avoid throwing money away, wait a bit before giving any.
if you think they deserve a chance, then take risk that the money will be lost.

every union faced, faces or will face this issue someday, that's a question of choice & I believe it's good it remains that way so there are different ways to manage a union and different spirit in each of them

ValaValla

13/09/2021
We are UNION so we need to collect sum to help clubs naturally.
And this need more loyalty I understand but you can't escape from bankruptcy or the rules.
We don't spare that. So outlaws must be punished. As the game cuts the tax without asking.

Helping without a return is a choice. But running away from loans is out of the rules.

I help out many clubs and my union too.

It's not gambling. It's investment to the clubs and Unions need more respect at that point. So need some interface to build and planning helping programs and process of payments and donations.

Gilly

13/09/2021
I had several cases of long-running union members that were suddenly deciding to leave with the loan still open. The money for leaving the union should go to the union. Maybe the union could set the value to leave.

Blagoje Vidinic

14/09/2021
ValaValla : [...] So need some interface to build and planning helping programs and process of payments and donations.
Actually, I agree with you but I'm not the webmaster...
I was not judging you, I tried to help you find a solution so as not to be worried while waiting for the webmaster to put in place something to prevent the abuse of certain people.

ValaValla

14/09/2021
Blagoje Vidinic :
ValaValla : [...] So need some interface to build and planning helping programs and process of payments and donations.
Actually, I agree with you but I'm not the webmaster...
I was not judging you, I tried to help you find a solution so as not to be worried while waiting for the webmaster to put in place something to prevent the abuse of certain people.
I respect your thoughts. I don't misunderstood your point.
I'm gonna sent link over discord. Maybe he saw some gap here too.

ValaValla

14/09/2021
Gilly : I had several cases of long-running union members that were suddenly deciding to leave with the loan still open. The money for leaving the union should go to the union. Maybe the union could set the value to leave.
Great idea. Splitting up tax as union income would be fix some amount.
Yet this is still on "catch me if you can" condition.

Pierabou

14/09/2021
I'm not so much in line with you guys.
Unions are not banks. They are not made to give loans. so it's their choice if they decide to do so.
it's a pity if some managers use unions to "steal" money but from my opinion it must remain that way. it's union's management to set its rules on how using (or not) money.

FYI : I used to run a union for several years so I'm well aware of this issue and faced it also.

ValaValla

14/09/2021
Pierabou : I'm not so much in line with you guys.
Unions are not banks. They are not made to give loans. so it's their choice if they decide to do so.
it's a pity if some managers use unions to "steal" money but from my opinion it must remain that way. it's union's management to set its rules on how using (or not) money.

FYI : I used to run a union for several years so I'm well aware of this issue and faced it also.
Yeah I agree with you union is not only for money. But we need some motivation and plans to keep players enjoy with playing as member of unions.

eltigré

15/09/2021
We are in a good project with ambitious team. Nous devons rester soudé dans notre projet commun

Danny Miles

15/09/2021
Players know The rules surrounding loans before they participate, so they should be forced to keep to the terms concerned. I know the union can't necessarily enforce this but, if that is the case, then the people who run the game should be able to penalised them financially or in other ways. It is difficult if different rules are applied to different players by the union, because some would then suggest that favouritism is at play, so it is easiest for the same system to apply to everybody. I rarely ask for loans, in the same way that I rarely donate money, because I try to run my club independently as much as possible. I am aware of the consequences of being unable to pay money back, so I choose to avoid that possibility occurring. That makes it difficult for me to make many specific recommendations, but I would support policies that allow the union to help managers when they need it while holding potential rogues to account. A bad minority should never spoil the game for the majority. Thanks for all of your hard work.

ValaValla

16/09/2021
Danny Miles : Players know The rules...
Thank you for your thoughts.
The main effort achieved by managers. They earn some amount and donate it for helping others. Yet an other came and stole that money. And unions can't do anything only complains about it.
So maybe building up a union base to tracking loans like weekly fees is much better. When clubs tooks loans with payment date its gonna installment weeks by week.
In financial screen they saw it was like a fee. Even they left union or goes offline it must be keep going.
Also clubs which don't had any money must give some players like mortgage. That can be set up before taking loans or game decide which gonna be sold automatically. Also next shop or ticket sales and sponsorship deals taken to the mortgage program.
As last opinion Unions must be hold their rights to extend their current loan contract with the clubs.
With all these treasurers only controlling finance conditions, confirming and extending mission which is going to be much easier.

ValaValla

08/07/2022
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