Hello community,

Have I got the latest changes to the game right?

• The big players nicknamed the NG99s have been experiencing a rapid and violent decline since last season. OK, that's tough, but we've been waiting for the end of this generation for a long time now.

• Alignment between the youngsters that can be found between U17 tournaments, scouting and detection, the best +80s, between 81 and 84. Thank you for this alignment.

• There will be some tweaks to the youngsters that I'm not listing, but with a clear goal, at best the player's potential will correspond to his NG. Nickel no problem.

• But here's a "new" (I'm only discovering it now) generation of vfstore players, with reallocation points, with a few clicks and a bit of cash, here are some nice 87-90 NG babies.

Personally, this last point obtained against cash, in a few minutes against players trained during 6 to 8 seasons to obtain a lower NG from 3 to 6 points, that me ... (I can't find the right verb).

Aymeric, I completely understand that you want to make money, that's normal, and you're therefore completely free to do what you want with your game, and so my message has no importance in that case.

On the other hand, the gap between paid and free has probably never been so wide, and that's just me, I can still stand a capricious mdm, 90 insipid minutes (others can't, the number of VF stops in the last 2 seasons is frightening), but waiting 15 seasons for the 99NG to disappear, to be replaced by NG90 vfstore, no, sincerely, for me... I'm not interested.

Example of players:
S. Blanco or Nicolò Barella

Have a good season.
Rull

That says it all. 👏

As I said in the other thread, money is money. In the past, VF stood out from other virtual games because you didn't have to pay to enjoy yourself. Here, the enjoyment of free players is taking more and more of a hit because of the size of the VFstore. I think the long-term calculation is wrong. We have just over 4,000 players (a very small number!) with a very large number of inactive players and fake clubs... There's a famous warning out there and it's not new.

I had already warned you several weeks ago in a previous post.

And here we are. Training and patience mean that the players don't perform as well as those in the store.

I'm not against a store, which saves time like many management games. On the other hand, it's a shame that the best young players in the game can't match up to the best players in the store.

There are a number of solutions that would allow young players to be more equal using aymeric's principles, particularly the one where potential = NG.
However, the one that stands out the most is that of increasing the potential accessible by various means other than university promotions (detection, Rj, u17, or even by winning trophies or events...).

I'll let you buy the youngsters from the Store with 6 stamina and 30 regression.

For me, the gap between the training and these players is equivalent to 10 minutes of match time.

It's not the abysmal gap you describe.

Mouais... Après on peut payer pour avoir la meilleure équipe du jeu et plainchant du mdm du coup parce qu'on n'a pas gagné le championnat, la LDC et les classements à la con con qui tout le monde foutons alors qu'on a contribué à ce qu'Aymeric roule en Tesla... au final qui sont les plus idiots?

And regression is certainly 30 years old,... but there will always be new players. So 23 or 30, they'll still be there as they are.

Then the philosophical question is:

Is it abnormal for a paying player to have a slight advantage over a "free" player? At what point is the difference unjustified from our general point of view?

PS: I never buy VF Store directly -> but I have sometimes bought them from players when needed.

The worst thing is this type of player:

M. Joshi
E. Suleiman

Who will exceed 215 points without forcing it just with the reallocation
They are at least 15-20 points ahead of the players who were very hard to train (for 5-7 seasons...).

The balance seemed right. Solid blind players, used everywhere.
I haven't seen anyone complain about the blind in recent years.
All the potential >83 were bought.

The blind players were also used to supplement the large numbers formed.

Now I have to admit, even though I use the store myself, that I think it's a shame that players bought at 23/24 are really better than players trained over 6-7 seasons.

You want to win? Buy from the store.

It's a shame, you can really feel that a lot of clubs are attached to their pixel and the players they play with and have trained since they were 17. It's a shame to overshadow the essence of the game, which has been part of VF since the very beginning.

I agree that new players won't have the patience to wait one or 2 years to get a good team, that's just the way it is if you don't want the game to die, you have to accept it.
So if, by paying a little, a newcomer can find himself in the top 100 in 3 months, that may be the only way for VF to survive.
Giving a 99 ng team to a newcomer, an estac or magpie eats it up with an 88 ng team.

I tend to agree with all the points made about VF store players and players with low potential, but it's a shame that these types of players wouldn't be incompatible if Aymeric hadn't lowered the training levels so much for young players from the CDF, bearing in mind that now players on loan don't even take points any more thanks to the endurance training course, which is detrimental when you want to train your youngsters for a fee.
The solution would be to readjust training by increasing the training % by more than 2.1%, as well as XP gains, so as to produce players with ~ 205/210 points at the end of their training, and to solve the endurance course problem by limiting each player to a single course per season (I don't think this is impossible to implement within the parameters of the game).

Pay-to-win doesn't bother many people, at least I don't think it does.
It's the balance that's wrong.

Nobody will cry foul if managers who want to accelerate their progression can buy 85NG 20endu, especially without versatility or affinity.
If, on the other hand, trainers get 85NG 30endu or 90NG 20endu

Because the trainer has to take the time to look for young players, to find the right curves, to think about which profile is the best, to calculate the final NG, to train for 1 year, playing 1 day out of 2 of useless matches, distributing the characteristics perfectly and avoiding injuries.

So if after all that you've got players who aren't as good as VFstore's 30M or 40M potential to reallocate...

We can all give up on training, one of the pillars of the game for ages...

I say go and get back to training 90 hardy NGs
The best period in the last 3-4 years

You don't have to be Nostradamus or Madame Soleil to anticipate that in 4 or 5 seasons the best clubs in the game who haven't been through the VFstore will all have almost identical teams, no longer with 11 players of 95-99 NG and stamina, but with 11 players of 85-90 NG with a little stamina.

I can't understand why it's impossible for a scout or a detector to find a player over 85 and why it's so easy to find 2 or 3 players between 81 and 84 over the course of a season.

The profile of young players should be much more spread out, with, for example, players over 92 being exceptionally rare, 88-91 very, very rare and 85-87 very rare, but 81-84 much less frequent.

It's also possible that the players in the store are calibrated on the current post-training players and not the youngsters fresh out of the cdf. Just so they're bought.

The players in the store may be adjusted in a few seasons' time.

I sacrifice myself for the community
Follow the adventures of this new Alpha generation
One small step for Man one giant leap for the Vfienne community

@Aymeric please don't touch anything during 392 days of training
Thanks in advance 😇

the old clubs at level 10 who train young players are surely the only ones who can afford to buy VF Store players, so stop dreaming about which new club can add 25m on a player. there's no pepEttE!

The violence of statistics.

-4 pts for a player in one go.

The old have gone downhill
Young players stop progressing after a certain age.

It's all the same. 😁

Personally, it's the 28-year-olds, 90NGs called Lampard, Papin, etc., the former glories who swarm the transfer lists and auctions every day that discourage me.

We've killed off one of the substances in the game.
Detection-> CDF-> training, a real laborious job but so fascinating.

What's the point... it smells like the end of the world.

Yes, at the rate things are going we'll soon all have the same players. Already 50 Lampard on vf. 30 Papin, 25 Seedorf, 20 Cantona...
What's the point of having all these identical players? With all the fraud that that entails.

How do these clubs manage to have so many legendary players spawn at their club?
#club?uid=671207&transferts

Shouldn't we stop the bleeding?

Or, if it's aymeric's wish to bring back managers (and not multis 😏 ) make these players non-transferable for life...

That new players can progress with ok, but that there are 45 peeled at auction per day from dubious origins to dubious destinations...

Not to mention the fact that in a few weeks' time they'll be the best players in the game... a level 1 who takes over would have just as much fun with 80ngs.
Let's just say we've seen more logic

Celine75, Excalibur FC, DORMUND, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Incarner, Dynamique FC, AC Milan, Betis Séville, Destroyer, Barcelone, C S S A, Chris Redfield, AS Monaco, Berkay FC, Ajax, Boyka FC, Brooklyn, AS Rome, Rondam City... between 20 and 50 accounts. All transactions between accounts, all Level 1s. More and more 29-year-olds are trading between accounts, if you're wondering why there are so many at the moment.
Take a look if you have time.

The day I see a Level 1 team with players like these... winning 1 LdC or whatever, I'll be screaming Pay to Win... to this day, there's nothing abnormal about it, you have to keep VF alive and keep it alive!

Stay cool... we're here out of friendship and love!

I love you all ;)

The best players in the game with just one position to their name and no style... Yeah, well, we'll assume that as long as you're squealing, you're alive.

Demi, I've never mentioned the inter-club transfers linked to these players... the facts are there, we can all see that.
As for buying them from the store, I'd say all the better if some people buy them... after that, I agree with you that there was this incredible 'series' at auction a few days ago... but that's another subject.

But I'm talking about the difference you're making between the players in the store and the 17-year-olds coming out at the moment.
How can you compare them?

How do you know that in 6 seasons' time, the players on the store will be the same? (And, frankly, when I see some of the 22 to 25-year-olds nowadays, well, in terms of their characteristics, they're no match for the players on the store).

In short, I think (at my personal level of intellect, sorry if I'm not very advanced) that you're making a lot of assumptions about this!

Sora, I'm sorry I don't have the same understanding as you, not everyone can have your presence of mind... so I'll refrain from commenting on your topics where I don't understand a thing!

Just relax.

Let's look at the problem another way. Would it be horrible if Level 1s received NG 80s instead of 90s?
That still gives them nice players that they can make a few million from, but it's still less than the ones who enjoy training?

This request is absurd?

Since the start of the "reform", gifts should only be possible from a large club to a small club (in the spirit of mutual aid).
Most of the gift transfers we've seen are from multi-account level 1-2-3s to level 10s. 🫪