Hello,
At Morten's request I'm posting here :

Small problem with the VIP, as every season I position my championship matches at 12pm but I've just realised that some matches weren't taken into account when my opponents don't have a VIP on their side to be able to choose a time that suits them...

Thanks in advance 😉

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gauthier80: Bonjour,
A la demande de Morten je poste ici :

Petit souci avec le VIP, comme chaque saison je positionne mes matchs de championnat à 12h mais je viens de m'apercevoir que certains matchs n'étaient pas pris en compte alors que mes adversaires n'ont pas de VIP de leur côté pour pouvoir choisir un horaire à leur convenance..

Merci d'avance 😉

If I'm not mistaken, your opponent can refuse the schedule change even if he's not a VIP

Unagi: Si je me trompe pas ton adversaire peut refuser le changement d horaire même si il est pas vip

not the automatic championship timetable via the VIP account.

If I'm not mistaken, you're talking about schedule changes with a star.

Perhaps they had the vip at the time of the championship draw?

If not, another suggestion if Aymeric happens to be in the area: the change to the vip schedule should only apply to the club's home games.

Pierabou: non pas les horaires automatique de championnat via le compte VIP.

La tu parles des changements d'horaires avec étoile si je ne m'abuse.

Yes, this is the situation that concerns me

Demi-cerveau: Ils avaient peut être le vip au moment du tirage du championnat ?

Sinon, autre suggestion si par hasard Aymeric passait dans le coin : le changement d'horaire pour les vip ne devrait concerner que les matchs à domicile du club.

does this mean that we can request a manual change by the admins for matches that non-VIPs play against VIPs?

Not that I know of. I'm just pointing out something that I think is wrong with the way the vip pass currently works.

Demi-cerveau: Ils avaient peut être le vip au moment du tirage du championnat ?

Sinon, autre suggestion si par hasard Aymeric passait dans le coin : le changement d'horaire pour les vip ne devrait concerner que les matchs à domicile du club.

I'm not 100% sure, but they're not normally VIP fans, so I'd be surprised if that's the case this season ...

Pierabou: est ce que ca veut dire qu'on peut demander un changement manuel par les admins pour les matchs que les non VIP jouent contre les VIP ?

No.
The only changes we are making are to the non-VIP matches affected by the VIP schedule change.

It seems to me that the VIP could impose the schedule of all his league matches on non-VIPs. In the event of a schedule conflict between 2 VIPs, the home manager's schedule takes precedence.

A question that might help to answer Gauthier's question and that was true at one time: can a manager always take a VIP account for 1 day, at the start of the season for example, and have a new schedule imposed and when the VIP jumps, the schedule remains?

Ola,

After training with Inspector Gadget... I observed the situation.

You took the VIP at 8pm... only your first 2 league games aren't at 12pm.

My deduction is that:
The time between yesterday and 18 and 20 April is too short for the change to be taken into account with the VIP... so as not to change the timetable too soon, for the other managers.

Demi-cerveau: Ils avaient peut être le vip au moment du tirage du championnat ?

Sinon, autre suggestion si par hasard Aymeric passait dans le coin : le changement d'horaire pour les vip ne devrait concerner que les matchs à domicile du club.

Hey half,

On your 2nd sentence, I don't agree with you

And it would also be good not to be able to shift the times of matches after 8pm so as not to impact on the federations' match schedules.
If, for example, you have a match at 9pm, to avoid problems you refuse selection that day and your player will never be selected again.

Brutus: Hey Demi,

Là, sur ta 2ème phrase, je ne suis pas ok avec toi ;)
J'ai le VIP pour pouvoir jouer mes matchs (ou modifier les horaires à volonté) aux heures adéquates pour la formation de mes jeunes...
Si, en championnat, le gars en face a le VIP pas de soucis de jouer à l'horaire qu'il souhaite... si non, ben désolé, la formation avant tout (pour ma part) ;)

I don't see why a manager who has taken the vip should have the right to spoil everyone's league, which is currently the case since, as Blagoje explained, sometimes a match between two non-vip players is moved because of the matches of a third vip manager. In my view of the game (and of life in general), paying doesn't give you the right to piss everyone off. So if he has the right to choose the time of his home games, fine. The rest, no. If you want to train 21 players at once, and you want absolutely no time constraints, there's a simple solution that doesn't use vip: leave the league and play friendlies.

After that, I think your youngsters can survive 7 games in the season (away games) that would not be on the schedule of your choice, in a 56-day season.

Who am I pissing off in my league? ... apart from 1 manager who could go up (which I'm not), I'm not pissing anyone off.
I'm speaking "for my part" at the moment (I admit I may have expressed myself badly), I understand your vision and personally, in the big divisions it can be a pain in the arse, yes.
Then, with matches between 4pm and 8pm... personally, the VIPs don't change anything or not too much... it also pisses everyone off.

Except that with this famous VIP, you can choose your schedule... you just have to be fair and if the title can be played between 2 teams (one of which has the VIP) then you might as well change the match schedule (for free) and basta!

It's my first season in the league, so I've made a conscious decision not to piss anyone off... and if one day someone asks me to change the match schedule, I'll be happy to do it, but I'm not in Div1 yet, and I'm far from it... I'm just anticipating the progress of my youngsters

Good evening Gauthier.
The answer has been given:
You took the VIP yesterday. And probably set it up for 12 noon matches in the process. This option reschedules all league matches at midday, EXCEPT those that are within 7 days of the time you set up. This is well thought-out and allows non-VIP clubs, who do not have the option of refusing, to have a 7-day calendar that does not change without their knowledge. A lesser evil, it's pretty well thought out.
You can always change the match manually, but you'll need their agreement.

As for Half-Brain's proposal, I think you need to explain it fully:
If VIP mode is active (and set) when league matches are scheduled (as is the case with VIP modes lasting several months), this effectively seems to affect ALL matches. Even when other clubs are playing each other. To be verified, but I've already noticed this. It's true that it's detrimental to the other clubs, and I think that's highly debatable.
But there is a way of 'parading' that.
Personally, I take my VIP mode and set it AFTER the broadcast schedule. So my changes ONLY affect my matches, and have no impact on anyone else.
I'd encourage you to do the same, so as to have as little impact as possible on the clubs. It may avoid legitimate feelings

Sincerely

Brutus: J'emmerde qui dans mon championnat ? ... à part 1 manager qui peut jouer la montée (que je ne joue pas), j'emmerde personne.
Je parle "pour ma part" à l'instant T (j'avoue peut-être me suis mal exprimé), je comprends ta vision et perso, dans les grosses divisions ça peut faire chier oui.
Puis, avec des matchs entre 16h et 20h... perso, le VIP ne changent rien ou pas trop... ça emmerde aussi tout le monde.

Sauf qu'avec ce fameux VIP, on peut choisir nos horaires... suffit d'être fair-pla

I wasn't speaking for you personally, of course. I'm talking in general terms, and Magpie explained it very well afterwards, as well as her response to avoid impacting everyone, which I think is very interesting.

As an admin, I've seen championships completely 'ruined', it seems to me that at the time it was by matches at 8am. Clubs that hadn't asked for anything (either of them) and didn't follow the timetables very closely (they saw 8am, they thought 8pm ....) ended up with injuries because their youngsters who'd played at 9pm the night before were playing again the next morning. Once I even had the two opponents come and complain. All because a third party wanted his matches at 8am, and the game, which by default schedules matches with a more or less constant recovery time between 2 matches, scheduled 3/4 of the championship matches at 8am. That's why I think this option, provided for in the vip module, deserves to be re-set.

Magpie: Bonsoir Gauthier.
La réponse a été donnée :
Tu as pris le VIP hier. Et probablement lancé un paramétrage pour des matchs à 12h dans la foulée. Cette option reprogramme tous les matchs de championnat à midi, SAUF ceux qui sont dans les 7 jours à partir du moment de ton paramétrage. Bien pensé, cela permet de laisser un temps aux clubs non-VIP, n'ayant pas la possibilité de refuser, d'avoir un calendrier à 7 jours qui ne change pas à leur insu. Un moindre mal, c'est plutôt bien pe

Hello Magpie.

I've had the VIP for a while and I've always seen opponents' matches at different times to those I've selected for my club. Am I missing something in the definition of the bug? Or maybe it doesn't affect everyone.

Yep Demi, I thought you were saying that in relation to your admin post, no worries about that, I tried to turn my words into consequences.

As for Magpie's answer, I didn't know but it's true that I've seen a lot of matches at 12pm in my group before (the time I chose).

I can see (better) what you both mean (or at least by comparing your messages).

I'm going to remove my timings for next season and add them after J1 to see... but I have total confidence in what you say about the result

It may have been corrected then.
But there was a time when I noticed the same thing as Demi. And not just once. Hence my self-imposed habit.
So much the better if it's been fixed, if that's the case. If, on the other hand, it persists, it would be interesting to bring it up.

Magpie is right, the timetable changes are only made from one week onwards, basically. If you change the vip now, the league matches will be changed from next Wednesday/Thursday, but the timetables for matches within those 7 days won't be changed

Thanks Magpie for the info then 👌😅

That hasn't changed. Many of us have had to endure it this season. With no less than 6 matches (the return legs against 3 opponents) at 12 noon against non-vipers. In addition to the vip of course.

After that, if any of the clubs with matches affected by these schedule changes contact us, we will of course compensate for this problem manually.

The problem arose because a manager wanted his matches at 10pm, which had a direct impact on the other non-vipers who had the same schedule, including myself.
That's why it was changed manually to avoid conflicts with the federations. It's the lesser of two evils because everyone has different preferred times.

The random aspect has its drawbacks but also its advantages in terms of fairness, as not everyone can be present at all their matches whatever happens... as would be the case for the official cups too... The whole thing at 8pm automatically excludes those who are indisposed. Et s'en remettre au mdm... bref.

Socrate: Après si les clubs impactés qui ont des matchs impactés par ces changements d’horaires nous contacte, bien entendu nous compenseront manuellement ce problème de parametrage.

yes, and always with responsiveness, whatever admin you contact :)