Hello,
I have 2 players in selection who have not returned after 9:25... Have the rules changed or is this a bug?

It's not a bug that you've been told you have to be back at 6.31am, it's because your coach has played his league match with the SI players in his squad

That's right, one match after one is, until the players are back, the loans are postponed.

I had the same joke today... sorry to the guys from the agreement!

Arazosv: Ce n'est pas un bug, annoncé rentrer à 6h31, c'est parce que ton sélectionneur a joué son match de championnat avec les joueurs de l'IS dans son effectif, ça retarde de 12h les retours

Well, what you say isn't true.
I did have a league match at 6pm but I didn't play it WITH the IS players, I played the league match with MY players.
The SI players were wisely on the bench

Where does it come from that loan players can't come back even though they're not playing?

If there's a setting that provides for this, it has to be changed because there's no justification for it........I'd even say that, on the contrary, this setting creates a loophole because a coach could then use players that aren't his to play in a league match.

What's more, it makes me reconsider the times at which matches are fixed IS if I'd known about this rule, which makes absolutely no sense.

It comes from the fact that no player can leave a club during a match... and that's nothing new.

So it allows a loophole a coach can play a championship game or why not IE games with players from his agreement that are not his!!!!

Why don't the players leave immediately after the final whistle, so there are no more problems.

Yet another trick that will discourage clubs from loaning their players to their coaches.

If we want to kill IS matches, let's carry on like this!

myforsans: Donc ça permet une faille un sélectionneur peut jouer un match de championnat ou pourquoi pas des matchs IE avec des joueurs de son entente qui ne sont pas à lui !!!

Pourquoi les joueurs repartent pas instantanément après le coup de sifflet final comme ça plus de problème.

Encore un truc qui va dissuader les clubs de prêter leurs joueurs à leurs sélectionneurs.

SI on veut tuer les matchs IS, continuons comme ça !

all you have to do is schedule your match before the SI and there's no problem 😉

myforsans: Oui enfin ce que tu dis n'est pas exact.
J'avais un match de championnat effectivement à 18 h mais je n'ai pas joué ce match AVEC les joueurs de l'IS j'ai joué le match de championnat avec MES joueurs.
Les joueurs de l'IS étaient sagement sur le banc

Ca sort d'où que les joueurs prêtés ne peuvent pas revenir alors qu'ils ne jouent pas ?

Si il y a un paramétrage qui prévoit ça il faut changer ça car cela n'a aucune justification........je dirai même au contraire ce paramétrage perm

Whether they're first-team regulars or on the bench, they're in your squad, as I said

The problem comes from the fact that we keep the players for 8 hours, and we can only call 5 hours before the match, so we have 1.5 hours after the final whistle

Arazosv: Qu'ils soient titulaires ou sur le banc, ils sont dans ton effectif, comme je l'ai mentionné

So it's a bug that creates a potential vulnerability.

Drezzo35: suffit de programmer ton match avant l IS et là plus aucun problème 😉
Et concernant la faille ça m'étonnerait que les joueurs puissent enchaîner deux matchs le même jour 😉

Not all the players selected for the IS have necessarily played the IS match, so you can potentially use fresh players who are not yours.
And if the opponent isn't there or isn't paying attention to click on the opponent's players, you can take advantage of players that aren't yours
I still think it's a bug that creates a potential loophole

Calling 5 hours before the match can create the same problems, but do we really need to do what the federations do? 10 minutes to change everything can be a long time, and you need to be active

myforsans: Tous les joueurs sélectionnés pour l'IS n'ont pas forcément joué le match IS donc potentiellement on peut se servir de joueurs frais qui ne sont pas à soi.
Et si l'adversaire est pas là ou ne fait pas attention pour aller cliquer sur les joueurs adverses, ni vu ni connu tu profites de joueurs pas à toi
Je maintiens c'est un bug générateur de faille potentielle

You'll still have to worry about affinity, which will reduce the impact of the flaw.

Question con 🤭
Isn't it forbidden to play selected players during a match other than the IS?

Drezzo35: Question con 🤭
C'est pas interdit de faire jouer les joueurs sélectionnés pendant un match autre que l IS ?

Drezzo35: Question con 🤭
C'est pas interdit de faire jouer les joueurs sélectionnés pendant un match autre que l IS ?

Yes, and it's even written in the regulations

Well then, there's no point in asking about the loophole
Thanks for your feedback 👍😇

Yes, so the rules are well drafted (I didn't know about this clause, which seems perfectly appropriate to me)
What remains to be sorted out, however, is the fact that players selected for IS do not leave immediately after the final whistle.
As a result, the coach is paralysed when it comes to playing again after his IS match, and what about the case (like mine yesterday) where it's a league match whose schedule has been fixed for a long time and cannot be moved.

It's already become very complicated to find slots for IS matches because your opponent always gives you 50 good or bad reasons to tell you that he's only available on such-and-such a day at such-and-such a time, but if you have to add in the shooting windows left by your own calendar to choose a slot, it becomes too complicated.

After that, you shouldn't be surprised that a lot of clubs have trouble finding a coach and that when you've been a coach for 2 or 3 seasons, all you want to do is hand over the reins (and I'm not counting the difficulties that internal coaches have with their agreements with certain clubs that are reluctant to loan out their players).

In short, the IS matches module needs to be rethought or at least readapted.
NB

i think it's up to the coach to pay attention to the 5-hour call-up time for the players, and it's up to him to calculate that the return journey doesn't take place during his daily match.

Jeffus tuchuss: je pense que c'est au sélectionneur de faire attention aux 5H de convocation des joueurs, à lui de calculer que le retour ne se fasse pas pendant son match journalier.

The problem is that we all have a life and we're usually still at work when we can start calling the players