Djaiss |
9 month agoIt's all in the title I think đ
Personally, I have more time in the evening after 8pm to do detection. I don't know how many players you can watch (150-160 I think) and then you have to wait 6 hours (?).
In short, I imagine that the restriction has a specific purpose because, once again on this game, some people have found ways around the trick (national sport on VF which they call "optimisation"), but for those who play quietly, cushily and who don't have the opportunity to do detection every 6 hours, it's a bit too restrictive in my opinion.
Vote for me đ„ł
Love and have a good Sunday đ
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Pauul76 |
9 month agoThe limit is set at 150 players every 6 hours... perhaps it would be better to accumulate this quota over a full day! For example, 600 players per day, with a reset at 00:00. This would certainly make things easier for those who have more time in the evenings.
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Rull43 |
9 month agoDjaiss: Tout est dans le titre je pense đ
Personnellement, j'ai plus de temps le soir aprÚs 20h pour faire de la détection. Je ne sais pas combien de joueurs on peut visionner (150-160 je crois) puis il faut attendre 6h (?).
Bref, j'imagine que la restriction a un but précis car, de nouveau sur ce jeu, certains ont trouvé comment contourner le truc (sport national sur VF qu'ils appellent "optimisation"), mais pour ceux qui jouent tranquille, pépÚre et qui n'ont pas l'occasion de faire de la détect...
It's so that you can have a life and not be glued to your phone for hours on end.
I like the current system
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Djaiss |
9 month agoRull43: C'est pour que tu es une vie peut-ĂȘtre et ne sois pas scotchĂ© Ă ton tel pendant x heures.
Je trouve bien le systĂšme actuel
Um... I don't think that's the (intended) purpose of this restriction đ
The only reason my life is cooler after 8pm is that I spend the rest of the day doing other things. I have more time to devote to it then, but I'm stuck with 160 players, which isn't great đ«€
The proposal above seems to me to be the right one, i.e. one limit per day, that seems reasonable to me. It's up to the MDJ to define this limit, but at the moment it's 4 (6-hour periods) x 160 players, i.e. 640 players per day.
It would be nice to be able to do all 640 players at once.
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k3vin59218 |
9 month agoWhether it's 4x150 or 1x600, it makes no difference to the authorised limit.
So the idea of doing it all at once is pretty good and fair for everyone.
People who work and who can't necessarily devote 15 minutes of their working time to clicking...
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Rull43 |
9 month agoHow long does 600 players take?
And who actually does it?
I do hope you've got cooler things to do.
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Djaiss |
9 month agoRull43: 600 joueurs cela prend combien de temps?
Et qui les fait vraiment?
J'espĂšre effectivement que tu as des choses plus cool Ă faire.
6 seconds (potential display time) x 600 = 3,600 seconds = 60 minutes
Personally, I do this while watching TV under the blanket and Madame with her knitting (do you have the picture?) đ€Ł
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Zeus |
9 month agoYes, it would be a nice change if we could make the quota all at once instead of being restricted every 6 hours.
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Djaiss |
9 month agoAt present, 150 players x 6 seconds represents 15 minutes of detection every 6 hours.
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OncleOink |
9 month agoBasically, the reduction of the detection series to 151 players was put in place to reduce the interest in using Autoclick systems. So you probably won't be successful on this issue, especially as a reform of the module was presented to the mdj at least 1 or 2 years ago. To date, I don't even know if he's bothered to read it!
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Djaiss |
9 month agoOncleOink: A la base, la rĂ©duction des sĂ©ries de dĂ©tection Ă 151 joueurs a Ă©tĂ© essentiellement mise en place pour appauvrir l'intĂ©rĂȘt du recours aux systĂšmes d'Autoclick. Vous n'aurez donc sans doute pas gain de cause sur cette question, d'autant qu'une rĂ©forme du module a Ă©tĂ© prĂ©sentĂ©e au mdj il y a au moins 1 ou 2 ans. A ce jour, je ne sais mĂȘme pas s'il s'est donnĂ© la peine de la lire !
Ha ok! Another "optimisation"...
But at the moment it's allowed to have 4x150 players, we're just asking you to be able to do it in 1x 600 players.
This won't allow these tricksters to go beyond this limit of players per day.
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OncleOink |
9 month agoThere is also more interest for a player using an autoclick to launch it once a day, for 1 hour, than 4 times for 15 minutes!
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Djaiss |
9 month agoOncleOink: Il y a quand mĂȘme davantage d'intĂ©rĂȘt aussi pour un joueur utilisant un autoclick de la lancer 1 fois dans la journĂ©e, pour 1 heure, que 4 fois pour 15 mn !!
It's a good summary of what this game has become, and I can understand why Aymeric needs to take a 2-year break from VF before getting back into it.
As soon as he develops a new feature, requested by some, others immediately think "well, what possibilities does this open up? And they work their brains out to get round the original aim of the new feature and open up other doors (optimisation) that the MDJ didn't want.
The result is that new features are restricted because of these 'hackers' (who, in the meantime, will find yet another way around them), those who play quietly without looking for misery find themselves penalised and, in the end, these new features create frustrations because they are not used, or are used only to a limited extent, as Aymeric thought they would be when he created them.
No way of creating a 'clean' version and a 'cheating' version like in Monopoly? đ
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Djaiss |
9 month agoWhat if we just removed the next and previous buttons in the detection (on the player sheet)? đ I imagine that's what they use with the clicker, isn't it?
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OncleOink |
9 month agoDjaiss: Beau résumé de ce qu'est devenu ce jeu et je comprends Aymeric qui doit prendre 2 ans de repos sur VF avant de s'y replonger.
DÚs qu'il développe une nouveauté, demandée par certains, d'autres pensent direct "bon, qu'est-ce que ça ouvre comme possibilités?". Et ça turbine dans le ciboulot pour contourner le but premier de la nouveauté et ouvrir d'autres portes (optimisation) non voulues par le MDJ.
Résultat, on bride les nouveautés à cause de ces "optimiseurs" (qui, entretemps trouveront en...
kamarad Djaiss, Aymeric can also make the effort to pay attention to the solutions proposed to him. I'd remind you of this project that you yourself liked, not so long ago, which solved a lot of problems with the 'detection' module, and also made it totally unnecessary to resort to any kind of digital trickery!
cf : #forum?topic=158239
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Djaiss |
9 month agoOncleOink: kamarad Djaiss, Aymeric peut aussi faire l'effort d'ĂȘtre attentif aux solutions qui lui sont proposĂ©es. Je te rappelle ce projet que tu as toi-mĂȘme likĂ©, il n'y a pas si longtemps et qui rĂ©solvait beaucoup de choses sur le module "dĂ©tection", en rendant aussi totalement caduque le recours Ă une quelconque supercherie digitale !
cf. : #forum?topic=158239
True, the subject comes up again and again đ„ș
Come on, one more grain of sand in the ocean, we can close đ
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