Hi everyone
First of all, I'd like to see only constructive comments and no pointless debates, as we've sometimes seen on this subject

As you know, following my suggestion for improvement, Aymeric created the Legends Cup for clubs with 10k points ... Only some of them expressed their dissatisfaction because according to them it's a Cup for old players... So there was a confusion between "Legends" and seniority... The arguments :

The Legends Cup should reward clubs that have distinguished themselves by their track record and their performance in the game rather than simply by their seniority or accumulation over the long term

My proposal is therefore to separate the two concepts to keep everyone happy

Legends' Cup: Based on pure performance (record of achievements... trophies 🏆), which would make it possible to reward the best clubs regardless of how long they have been playing

VF Old's Cup: Some of you have played in the VF Old Championship. The VF Old's Cup rewards seniority and longevity in the game and takes into account the 10k points accumulated

Criteria for the Legends Cup: Ranking of achievements as a basis, which ensures that clubs that have been competitive over time and have won titles can compete against each other

I include a possible transition for the winner of the VF Old's Cup to the Legends Cup so that a manager with a proven track record in the Old's Cup qualifies for the Legends Cup

This will have the merit of clarifying the terms legends and seniority... For me, this solution doesn't sideline anyone and it allows everyone to find their place according to their merits and commitment to the game

Deadline every 2 seasons

To avoid managers being overwhelmed by too many simultaneous competitions, the two cups can alternate every season:
Season 1: Legends Cup (focused on the performances of the most successful clubs).
A transitional season
Season 3: Alumni Cup (rewarding seniority and perseverance).

And so on

This helps to maintain a certain rarity and prestige around each cup, increasing clubs' motivation to qualify

Legends Cup qualification support: #ranking?type=palmares

VF Old's Cup qualifying support: #ranking?type=legends

i understand the thinking behind it, but is an old hand necessarily a legend of the game? And can't a relatively new club quickly become a legend?

Have you done the exercise to check how many different players there would be in each of the cups using your method?

The advantage I can see, as it stands, is that it could also divide up/distribute the clubs in the 2 cups and avoid a long cup.
I'm not involved, but when I see some clubs, the calendar is very full.

Direct elimination doesn't necessarily take long (even at 256 to start with), it's just that it adds more high-stakes matches between other high-stakes matches, but once every 4 seasons, it's worth trying to go far.

Personally, I like to be considered a legend even if I don't have the track record of some, and I wouldn't like to be relegated to a VF Old's cup...

I get the impression that the whole point of this cup was to do a one-shot.
I don't really see the point of keeping a format like this going indefinitely.
there are already plenty of competitions where the best can meet
Now, why not make a one-shot 'seniority cup' to please those who have had their egos bruised?

At a time when most people watch hundreds of videos a day without remembering 3/4 of them, two days later.
What a pointless debate from the start... the real legends, the fake ones... Was Maradona better than Pelé or was Senna better than Verstappen?
I understand better why AI was invented when I read a large part of those who are supposed to be like me.

Lebaygue: A l heure ou la plupart des gens regardent des centaines de vidéos par jour sans se souvenir des 3/4,deux jours après.
Quel débat inutile depuis le début...les vraies légendes,les fausses... Maradona était il meilleur que Pelé ou Senna était il meilleur que Verstappen.
Je comprends mieux pourquoi on a inventé l IA quand je lis une grande partie de ceux qui sont censés être mes semblables.

Always there to denigrate but never there with words to advance....
At worst go your own way we'll make you less stupid 😘

"Legends' Cup: Based on pure performance(Record of achievements... trophies 🏆) which would allow the best clubs to be rewarded no matter how long they've been playing."

in fact it already exists: #coupe?officials=champions

Drezzo35: Tjs là pour dénigrer mais jamais là avec des propos pour faire avancer...
Au pire passe ton chemin on te rendra moins stupide 😘

I don't see how your comment is any less disparaging than others 🙂

What's certain is that Aymeric wanted to please part of the community with this idea, which was a good one by the way, and that in the end he's taking a lot of the blame because others have had their egos bruised. Whatever he does, there will always be those who are unhappy. That's the way life is.
And for my part, I think that even with two cups we'll always have the same debate between those who don't want to be in this or that cup, or those who are in neither. But in those cases, we might as well make one cut with the whole commu and call it a day?

Drezzo, if you don't understand lebaygue.....'s message, don't post a useless message.

guantanamera: "Coupe des Légendes : Basée sur la performance pure(Palmarès.. trophées 🏆) ce qui permettrait de récompenser les meilleurs clubs peut importe depuis combien de temps ils jouent"

en fait ça existe déjà : #coupe?officials=champions

;-)

Que dire de plus, la ldc pour les clubs performant, la coupe des anciens (legendes) pour les vieux débris comme moi et la coupe des amateurs pour les plus nuls 😁😁😁
A force de créer pleins de compétitions on est pas à l'abris de voir la coupe des derniers du championnat, la coupe des vainqueurs de coupe serait une idée et laissé que les champions en ldc

kiki-sainté: Que dire de plus ,la ldc pour les clubs performant ,la coupe des anciens (legendes) pour les vieux débris comme moi et la coupe des amateurs pour les plus nuls 😁😁😁
A force de créer pleins de compétitions on est pas à l abris de voir la coupe des derniers du championnat ,la coupe des vainqueurs de coupe serait une idée et laissé que les champions en ldc

That's a good point...☺️

I think we can close the subject. Thank you to everyone for your opinions