Aglacis |

7 month ago

And hello,
I never understood the why and how of it... I ask the question about the FOFO.

Why when we finish second in our championship during a season there is a 90% chance of NOT participating in the official cup? (I said 90% it happened to me on very rare occasions to finish 2nd during a season and to participate in the coup despite everything but ..... to the detriment of another 2nd if I'm not saying)
So season 1 the place of champion escapes us but, at first glance 2nd is still not bad And ... are we less well rewarded than the 3rd/4th xD?

Worse still, the penalty applies during the following season with the sponsors who impose prerequisites in official matches and that... well precisely no cup = less official matches lol

Next to its the number of matches or goals that go up as we take over the same sponsor ....
for example I finished 2nd last season and ... no cup I took sas to be too careful the usual sponsor iron defense and ... I have to play 15 games without conceding a goal ( for the record it's just + than all the matches .... in the league (7 opposing teams in home and away so 14 games lol)) and obviously I couldn't make a cup ... (yes I changed league but I already had this situation by finishing lower ranked, by changing championship and I had access to the cup of the old field' ...)

So I still have .. the IE for his last matches which is roughly the cream of the agreements of the division corresponding to his agreements ... (so obviously very simple of course ... xD ) Fortunately I have an agreement but ... if I didn't have one, how could I make that famous last "official" missing match xD?

In reality, on paper, finishing second could possibly be rewarding, but a priori on VF it's the worst possible place lol.


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Pierabou |

7 month ago

So for the first problem, which is not participating in the Coupe de la Ligue, there are only 32 teams qualified for the Coupe d'Azur because only 3 divisions.
The game normally takes in the order of the divisions (so here the first 2) and then the clubs with the most seniority.
Last season you were in the small African divisions if I'm not mistaken, so you shouldn't have been part of the oldest clubs.
When you change leagues, you don't play in the Cup in the first season. which is your case here if your history is good. What's stranger is that you start directly in D2 when there are 2 groups of D3.

For your 2nd sponsor problem: unofficial cups count. So play other cups to achieve your sponsors.


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Aglacis |

7 month ago

As I said, having already changed championships from one season to another, I can assure you that it is possible to participate in the cup of the old one (something that seems logical since, for the cups no matter which, it is based on the ranking of the season ... previous season and the previous season I was in Africa, finishing 2nd and there, no Africa Cup lol)
I wasn't talking about participating in the Côte d'Azur Cup but the Africa Cup.... (something that seemed logical to me, it's my first season on the French Riviera so I can't have finished 2nd here the previous season and therefore it doesn't fit into the initial topic of the post I have.... I myself put especially concerning this 2nd place xD ) and I was not especially in the small African divisions ... rather towards the middle of the div ...
Concerning the unofficial cuts, on the other hand, I was not aware of this info for me, it did not fit especially in the "official" category (like the LDC or others lol) and so thank you for this info:)


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Aglacis |

7 month ago

But so roughly speaking, it's ... rewards the oldest in the championship rather than the merit of arriving in the top 2 or 3 of the rankings of the different pools and divisions...

A bit like if psg, om or monaco didn't participate in the MDC by finishing in the top 2/3 and its EVERY season because [bled lost in the depths of the countryside but being in l1] finished just ahead of the relegation because... 1 season + than them in seniority lol

it's going well this past ...


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Drezzo35 |

7 month ago

Aglacis: Mais donc grosso modo sa ... récompense les plus anciens dans le championnat plutôt que le mérite d'arrivé dans le top 2 ou 3 des classements des différentes poules et division ...

Un peu comme si le psg , l'om ou monaco ne participaient pas a la LDC en terminant parmis les 2/3 premiers et sa CHAQUE saison parce que [bled perdu au fin fond de la campagne mais étant en l1] terminait juste devant les reléguable parce que... 1 saison de + qu'eux en ancienneté lol

ça va bien ce passé ..

But yes everything will be fine, it's just a game 🤭😉😀


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Pierabou |

7 month ago

Ok, maybe we participate in the cup of the old championship.
The explanation on seniority remains effective in all cases and justifies your non-participation.

From next season you will participate in the French Riviera Cup, so no more worries for you.


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Blagoje Vidinic |

7 month ago

It is neither the criterion of seniority, nor the VFFA index but a draw is made between the remaining clubs to complete the cup after the 24 teams D1-D2 (when 32 participants) or the 56 in D1-D2-D3 (if 64 participants).


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Aglacis |

7 month ago

Then.. several options either (be careful cobblestone mode xD):

  1. The rng is definitely not my friend in the case where I come second and don't make the cut the following season came back to me so often that it called me to come and ask the question (and its whether I stay in the same league or not)

  2. Any bug

If 32 participants there is a draw after the 8 (D1 clubs) + 16 (2 pools of 8 clubs in Div 2) = 24 so draw of 8 among the D3 clubs (small championship case)

by pushing the thing a little it gives it something like this for 256 participants (like this cup on last season) and so I continue the "logic" of the reasoning
8 D1 club + 16 D2 club + 32 D3 club = 56 clubs for 64 participating so 8 places in the draw in D4
56 clubs (D1; D3) + 64 clubs D4 = 120 clubs for 128 participants, so there are still 8 places in the D5 draw
120 clubs (D1; D4) + 128 D5 clubs = 248 clubs for 256 participants (so our number of clubs this season in this cup) remains 8 places in the draw among the D6 clubs

Even if you apply what you tell me; That is to say take absolutely all the teams of the highest div and completed via a draw behind and its according to the number of participants among (since the clubs can only be selected once) the lower div and ... I was in Div 4 (out of 6) and I finished... 2nd (but anyway since there are 256 participants and if the principle is good I could have finished last in this group that it wouldn't have changed the thing) ... there's something wrong since I should have participated in this Africa Cup lol :3
(and I emphasize it, whether or not you change championship at that time doesn't change anything about this story^^ since by definition I'm eligible and having participated in season -1 which is the prerequi and its even if I move region the following season lol)


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Blagoje Vidinic |

7 month ago

I was only responding to the criteria for choosing clubs for the cup.

Concerning your case, to my knowledge, the fact of changing championships, prevents (and it is logical) from participating in the cup of the latter.
You changed leagues so...


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Aglacis |

7 month ago

And no since I've already been able to participate in a cup even by changing leagues (and its on the other hand for the time being I'm sure of it)
Which seems coherent to me since I did participate in this championship in season -1 compared to the cup 0 which necessarily takes into account the clubs of season -1 if it was not the case and if it took into account the clubs season 0 (so current championship club) at that time I should have participated in the cup .... d'azur lol (since I'm in d2 azur on 3 div in total xD)


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Blagoje Vidinic |

7 month ago

In my opinion, the bug lies more in the fact that you were able to participate in the championship cup when you had left it than in the inconsistency of not participating anymore despite your 2nd place in D4... But I'll still find out.


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Aglacis |

7 month ago

Possible

That I had a bug a long time ago that "wrong" the reasoning is a possibility

And that the reasoning of: club selected in cup 0 must be part of the championship clubs season -1 is just as admissible

there for the time being I don't know lol


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