Hello, I noticed that my players have a progression lower than the coefficient: Example, I have a player with a coefficient of 34.4, who progresses on average by 115% per day. That is 6440% per season, which gives a gain in NG of 32.2. He will therefore be behind by 2.2ng at the end of the season. So he must play 20 matches to hope to catch up... (for information the assistant coach is at 80)

Hi, For info, I have a player with a coefficient of 40.47 who takes an average of 137% in each training session. EA 81 This does not seem illogical to me.

But you forget the xp gains in matches... Progression is not only collective training unless I become stupid ^^

Not wrong, 0.24XP/match... basically a little more than 25%/match...

Zeus: Mais tu oublies les gains xp en matchs...
La progression ce n'est pas uniquement l'entrainement collectif à moins que je deviennes débilos ^^

Individual training has nothing to do with collective training. For a few seasons now, the gain from collective training has decreased and it is also varied if you notice the percentages are still not identical (since the maturity ranges I think?)

I know well but he talks about delay without taking into account individual training.

Then the collective training varies by a few %, you have to look at the average... like the XP of the matches, last season between the beginning and the end, there was a lot of difference for the same coefficient! But, I think, that it's the same for everyone!

Totti10: Bonjour,
J’ai remarqué que mes joueurs ont une progression inférieure au coeff :
Exemple, J’ai un joueur coeff 34.4, qui progresse en moyenne de 115% par jour. Soit 6440% par saison, ce qui donne un gain en NG de 32.2.
Il accusera donc un retard de 2.2ng en fin de saison.
Donc il faut le faire jouer 20 matchs pour espérer rattraper le retard…
( pour info l’entraîneur adjoint est à 80)

Can you give the player's link? It would be easier, thanks.

Ah yes but for non-mathematicians it would be necessary to explain in a simple sentence 🤔👍

I think it's him #joueur?jid=564962&progression Afterwards, you have to see the comparison with #joueur?jid=544832&progression, #joueur?jid=556604&progression and #joueur?jid=565809&progression

Yes, that's the one. But taking into account match experience, it takes 20 matches at 90 minutes to catch up on the collective training delay. So there are a maximum of 8 matches left in the season to get ahead.

Brutus: Je pense que c'est lui #joueur?jid=564962&progression

Après, faut voir la comparaison avec #joueur?jid=544832&progression , #joueur?jid=556604&progression et #joueur?jid=565809&progression

Same for the others. Same scheduled delay. A player with a coefficient of 34/35 who only takes a 1 lead at the most, with 28 matches in a season and training every day with a coach with a NG 80… it seems really weak to me compared to previous seasons.

I had a quick look, they are not that late! Some came out of the CDF late... and little coefficient before, they played an average number of matches (no more), I think that if there are no injuries, if you play a sufficient number of matches, they will arrive at the end of training without delay! Afterwards, I could be wrong!

I made an Excel with their potential and the lead. Having kept my XP aside, I can clearly see that the lead is melting away.

Your player is not late. He will be at least NG83/84 at the end of training…

On the other hand, fortunately a player needs to play in order not to fall behind in his training. The collective training gain + XP gain slider moves regularly. Two years ago, players in training who trained every day and played every other day fell behind each season. A year ago, in the same conditions, they were way ahead. Today, they are getting a little ahead. As the retiree rightly said, it's the same for everyone, at time T. If Aymeric sees that there are too many 99ng players who continue to be trained, he will continue to lower the slider. If he sees that there are not enough of them, he will raise it a little.

Totti10: J’ai fait un Excel avec leur potentiel et l’avance.
Ayant gardé mon Xp de côté, je vois clairement que l’avance est entrain de fondre.

You keep your XP aside!, so you don't take them into account for the advance!? Randomly, out of the 4, I took him S. Lagraoui At 19, he was at +8 (you must have put in a bit of endurance)... without XP... at 20 +2, at 21 +1... There, the stats are poorly proportioned but if you distribute them, he arrives at 51NG or +3... you add your XP (if you have stored any) and I think you'll be good! Honestly for a 72pot, without endurance, if you get to at least 75NG (I think), that's already good ;)

Morten34: Ton joueur n’est pas en retard. Il sera à minima à NG83/84 en fin de formation…

If we take a closer look at your player, this is what it looks like: L. Mothupa He currently has 117 acquired characteristic points, or a NG of 58.5. You have 40 training sessions left with a daily progression of 1.1545 pts per training session, or: 40 x 1.1545 = 46.18 pts Add to this the xp. Over 40 days, if he plays 20 matches, he will take: 20 x 0.21 = 4.2 pts TOTAL: 117 + 46 + 4 = 167 pts / 2 = 83.5 NG For a potential of 80, you are within the current norm.

What else!? ^^

Quantum Mathematics

You have another, even simpler way to know what his NG will be at the end of his training: You take his current margin of progression which is 30.975%. You do: 30.975% x 80 (His potential) = 24.78 NG still to be taken. That is 58.5 (His current NG) + 24.78 = 83.28 NG

Morten34: Si on reprend l’examen de ton joueur en détail, voilà ce que ça donne: L. Mothupa

Il a actuellement 117 points de caractéristiques acquis, soit un NG 58,5.

Il te reste 40 entraînements avec une progression quotidienne de 1,1545 pts par entraînement, soit: 40 x 1,1545 = 46,18 pts

À cela s’ajoutent les xp. Sur 40 journées, s’il joue 20 matchs, il va prendre: 20 x 0,21 = 4,2 pts

TOTAL: 117 + 46 + 4 = 167 pts / 2 = 83,5 NG

Pour un potentiel 80,

Oh yes yes it is not late and well within the norm. I'm just saying that it seems to me that compared to previous seasons, it progresses less 😂 And that it is necessary to compensate more with XP than usual. In itself, it seems to me to be of implacable logic.

Totti10: Ah oui oui il est pas en retard et bien dans la norme.
Je dis juste qu’il me semble que vis à vis des saison précédentes, ça progresse moins 😂 Et qu’il faut plus compenser avec les XP qu’à l’accoutumée.
En soit, ça me paraît d’une logique implacable.

Previous seasons with a 5 month account, thank you for teaching us VF thank you gentlemen 🤔🤭👏

Little tease ^^

Totti10: Ah oui oui il est pas en retard et bien dans la norme.
Je dis juste qu’il me semble que vis à vis des saison précédentes, ça progresse moins 😂 Et qu’il faut plus compenser avec les XP qu’à l’accoutumée.
En soit, ça me paraît d’une logique implacable.

I repeat, your player is not late. Here is another example to compare: T. Pellegrino He is currently NG 67 His current margin of progression is 20.101% and his potential is 80: 20.101% x 80 = 16.08 NG still to be taken. That is: 67 + 16 = NG 83 As I have 2 xp aside for this player, he will be NG 84. So you see that your player is not late.

I know he's not late. I agreed with you in the previous message. I'm just saying that with one training session per day, taking into account an average %, he won't take the 34.4 ng announced by his coefficient, but only 32.2 ng. And I need 20 90-minute matches for him to reach his full potential. It seems to me that in previous seasons it wasn't as "big" a gap. I just wanted to know if other managers have a similar feeling or not at all.

Yes you are right Toto Compared to the training of 3-4 seasons ago, the advantages drawn are less. Currently the surplus of NG compared to the potential at the end of training is less important. A good training will still bring something coherent and acceptable but in view of the young players of 90 NG + on the game. It is better to try to buy them than to train them 👍🏾

Socrate: Oui tu as raison Toto
Comparé a la formation d’il y’a encore 3-4 saisons, les avantages tirés sont moindre.
Actuellement le surplus de NG par rapport au potentiel en fin de formation est moins important.
Une bonne formation apportera quand même quelque chose de cohérent et d’acceptable mais au vue des jeunes joueurs de 90 NG + sur le jeu.
Vaut mieux essayer de les achetés que des les former 👍🏾

This also confirms the importance of endurance, we agree? 😇

Drezzo35: Ça confirme aussi l'importance de l'endurance du coup, on est d'accord ? 😇

I don't know, endurance is a particular subject that I don't master at all, I have a hard time talking about something that I don't know 🤭

Socrate: Je sais pas, l’endurance c’est un sujet particulier que je ne maîtrise aucunement, j’ai du mal à parler de chose que je ne connais pas 🤭

Don't be stingy, share the info 😇😘

Socrate: Oui tu as raison Toto
Comparé a la formation d’il y’a encore 3-4 saisons, les avantages tirés sont moindre.
Actuellement le surplus de NG par rapport au potentiel en fin de formation est moins important.
Une bonne formation apportera quand même quelque chose de cohérent et d’acceptable mais au vue des jeunes joueurs de 90 NG + sur le jeu.
Vaut mieux essayer de les achetés que des les former 👍🏾

In any case, the cursor should not decrease too much, because only the "exceptional" potentials (85 and +) will have a chance of finishing at 99 NG at the end of training (and again, with good knowledge in the field and without hazards)