I noticed that 3 of my players didn't get a +1 after physical preparation.
I've also noticed that these are the last 3 to be promoted from my CDF.
Do you need seniority to get +1?

The same goes for me

With the exception of Vidergar, these are players who were promoted and recruited last season.

The same goes for me

I have the same problem, not all my players got the famous +1 in stamina, a bug?

Hello, ditto, course completed but no stamina points received (the point on the capture for Maradona was obtained via an EC).

The bonus only applies to players with at least one season's seniority who are not on loan.

aymeric45: Le bonus ne s'applique que pour les joueurs ayant au moins une saison d'ancienneté et qui ne sont pas en prêt.

Thanks for the information
On the other hand, it's a shame you weren't able to keep us informed of this change, I would have kept my internship...

Thanks for the feedback but it's not right that a player who was released from the cdf the previous season doesn't get it, at least that's my opinion... shame

Take heart from all the small clubs that survive on loans. We won't be lending you any more because we don't want to ruin our players...

aymeric45: Le bonus ne s'applique que pour les joueurs ayant au moins une saison d'ancienneté et qui ne sont pas en prêt.

I've also noticed that players trained at the club, who haven't yet had a full season, haven't taken the point. Would it not be possible to change this to avoid penalising young players who were promoted during the previous season? Thank you

Idem....
Shame about the lack of information... I would have kept my internship...

aymeric45: Le bonus ne s'applique que pour les joueurs ayant au moins une saison d'ancienneté et qui ne sont pas en prêt.

I wouldn't have extended my loans if I'd known...

Not to mention these purchases a few days after the start of the season, which won't make it possible to run the course the season in advance.

It's the worst possible idea, all for 3 guys who have abused the double training period, everyone finds themselves penalised, and several generations are going to get screwed again.

aymeric45: Le bonus ne s'applique que pour les joueurs ayant au moins une saison d'ancienneté et qui ne sont pas en prêt.

As a result, there is a knock-on effect with players who are selected by Federations.

I also think it's a shame that young people who have recently graduated from the CDF don't benefit from the physical preparation course!

Azby: A l'exception de Vidergar, ce sont des joueurs promus et recrutés saison dernière.

I recruted last season but none of them came.

sora02: Sans parler de ces achats qlq jours aprés le début de saison, qui ne permettront pas de faire le stage la saison d’après.

C'est la pire idée possible, tout ça pour 3 mecs qui ont abusé de double stage, tout le monde se retrouve penalisé, et plusieurs générations vont se faire avoir encore.

Indeed, we could change to 56 days of seniority, instead of a full season. Hopefully, those who go to the federation or IS will also have the endurance course.

Que 3? 🤣🤣🤣

The only point I agree with... it's penalising for all recruits with a "normal" objective without cheating. And of course all the youngsters coming out of our own cdf.

All my recruits from last season didn't progress, which is a shame!

aymeric45: Le bonus ne s'applique que pour les joueurs ayant au moins une saison d'ancienneté et qui ne sont pas en prêt.

It seems to me that this wasn't the case in previous seasons (correct me if I'm wrong).

Given that you can no longer break a loan, what is the point of this new measure apart from penalising the player's owner?

I can imagine those who have brought back a complete generation at the end of the season as I've seen/ those who have taken young players out of the cdf etc... will they feel aggrieved?

I understand the substance, but the form today is, in my opinion, very heavy with meaning for many...

Good evening. Are players who spent the night of the season changeover in the federation considered as "recruits" by the system?
Because they were not in the squad at the time of the season changeover (returned at 00:55).

Indeed nims, it wasn't active last season, it's new

Great Aymeric again, communication 0, changes always in submarine. Frankly the top.

Instead of punishing the cheats, it's all vf who pay the price here!

on top of that, the loss has gone from 20% to 30%, which is a bit much, as losing 20% over all this time is a real worry, so 30% is a pity, as this event will no longer be of any interest.
30% loss
the loans win nothing
players who haven't had a season get nothing

I only see negative points!

The same applies to 6 players, including 1 who left my cdf 1? years ago...

Better and better!

aymeric45: Le bonus ne s'applique que pour les joueurs ayant au moins une saison d'ancienneté et qui ne sont pas en prêt.

My player Skhodra has more than 500 days seniority, why doesn't he take the endu point?

If not, is it complicated to lock in 1 internship/player/season regardless of whether he is sold, loaned, etc?
Real question, I'm not a coder

It's still the most logical solution...

VALENCIANO: en plus la perte est passer de 20% a 30% ca c'est un peu beaucoup la comme perdre 20% sur tout la team est un vrai soucis alors 30% c'est ouff dommage cette evenement ne sera plus intéressant du tous
-perte de 30%
-les prêts gagne rien
-les joueurs qui ont pas une saison on rien

je vois que des points négatifs !

It was still 20% off an hour ago...
Then it went to -25
Then to -30%.

At this rate, we'll be at -70% by tomorrow morning!

and it's going from 2.5m to 3m for a level 10, another increase, but we're not gaining any more on vf.

Why put in this upgrade when the return of loans was blocked?
It wasn't enough, only one option was already effective...
Now we're penalising even more... for nothing!

As a reminder, there's a very, very simple solution to code: with each new season, players automatically gain +1 in stamina, and the .... course is removed. Simple solution, proposed by Dadadaaa a month ago, 0 possibility of flaws or people being harmed. For this season it's obviously a no-go, but for future seasons it would be a good alternative, I think.

Demi-cerveau: Pour rappel, il y a une solution très très simple à coder : à chaque nouvelle saison, les joueurs prennent automatiquement +1 en endurance, et on supprime le stage .... Solution simple, proposée par Dadadaaa il y a un gros mois, 0 possibilité de faille ou de personnes lésées. Pour cette saison c'est foutu, évidemment, mais pour les prochaines, ce serait une bonne alternative, je pense.

I don't really see the point of this "solution". The aim of the game is not to have the best possible players in absolute terms, but the best possible players in relation to those of my opponent.
For example, to put it simply: I have a team of 11 players, each with 20 stamina, and my opponent has a team of 11 players, each with 25 stamina.
Will it make any difference when I face him if my 11 players are at 21 and at the same time his 11 players are at 26?
I could be wrong, but in my opinion, this automatic stamina point for everyone would be a pure gimmick.

On the other hand, what's rather penalising is the novelty of not allowing loan players to take points, because that's going to be detrimental to training (but you could also say that it's going to favour those who are more deserving because they train their players themselves compared to those who outsource training).
And then, of course, there will be those who will jump on the 'new' loophole that consists of letting a player return from training (he'll presumably have a year's seniority in the case of a season's loan) to do his physical training and then letting him go out on loan to the same club the next day.
When will we see a new measure to neutralise this 'new' loophole?

So, in the end, I have three criticisms of this measure:

• 1°) it came into force by surprise, without prior notice
• 2°) a measure imposed on everyone in a hurry because of 3 or 4 cheats (known cheats, by the way, but nobody knows if they were really punished).
• 3°) a measure containing the seeds of a new flaw
  On the other hand, I can see one advantage: it favours real trainers and not those who train via subcontracting.

Thanks Aymeric for warning us, I wouldn't have extended my loans either...
Perhaps those with a minimum loan season could also benefit?

It is noted

It's a load of rubbish, no points for loans or less than one season and 30% off, and all this without any news or communication.
It doesn't do any good, it doesn't correct any problems and it doesn't respond to any requests.

Another negative change BRAVO

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Some people are nervous here oh

Thank you aymeric
At last, some good news for cheaters

I've taken them all, even last night's promoted player and the players on loan too ... but -30% 😅...

Same problem for me. Except that the player in question has 359 days' seniority....

Hello,
I don't understand the seniority thing. I have Kardum who hasn't taken the point. He has been with me for 7 seasons. He's leaving for the Federation and IS, but others have taken the point too.
How come he hasn't taken the point knowing that he's over 50% physical?

Same for 2 players

aymeric45: Le bonus ne s'applique que pour les joueurs ayant au moins une saison d'ancienneté et qui ne sont pas en prêt.

Nice! I've put together a team of 18 year olds and it's a bit of a mess...
It would have been nice to know beforehand! I'm frankly disgusted

After an exchange with Azby from the LV, the 3 players who haven't taken their endurance point are players who already have a Federation match scheduled.
On the other hand, seniority hasn't changed anything as I have players who have been with me for less than 56 days (transfer or return from loan) who have taken their stamina point.

Bonjour, magnificent evolution: players who are 100% fit don't gain stamina (or those who came back from a federation match last night... even more magnificent).

Alternatively, how about an automatic +1 and -20% at the start of each season? By deleting the event.
And for this season, going backwards as has already been done in the past.

1 season of seniority is too expensive Aymeric.
I understand your desire, but if I buy a youngster in the first half of the season, even a player in the middle of his career, and I keep him, he won't be able to take part in the training camp the following season!
In fact, this applies to loans as well as transfers!
If you want to keep this measure, I think you need to lower the number of days of seniority!