I'm putting this subject back on the table.

A new plague has been appearing for a few seasons now: we can have fun scheduling friendlies to choose when the cups are going to fall.

It seems to me that in the past the cuts were prioritised so as not to block the game and therefore cause the friendlies to be skipped.

It's great for clubs who want to play all the cups with just one team, and given that nothing has changed for several seasons, you'd imagine that it's allowed and they're quite right to take advantage of it.

But we end up with endless cups, I've just looked at all the league cups, and in the same round there are games on the 7th then the 8th, the 9th, the 10th...

I think that the cups should be fixed on the days, the aim of the management game being to "manage". If unfortunately you don't have the squad to play 3 cups and IEs, then you make a choice.

Then it penalises those who don't use this stratagem and kindly wait for the schedule without organising anything, telling themselves that they won't have time to play anything else, and who end up waiting 3, 4 or 5 days...

Imagine the same thing in the league: I go on holiday for a week, I play a week of friendlies and while I'm sunbathing the other clubs are waiting for me... it's a lunar phenomenon.

If I'm told that this is authorised, that it's a change wanted by the MDJ and that it's perfectly normal for everyone to be able to slow down the cups to fit in with their tennis training or their evening meal, then as a sign of protest I'm going to have fun organising 5 friendlies every time I pass a round of one of the cups just to paralyse VF 😏

**What do you think?

Maybe I'm a metro behind, but it seems to me that cup matches "overwhelm" friendly matches already scheduled for the same day.
What causes the delays are the league matches (although they don't happen at the start of the season) and the other cups, at which point the match in the next round is scheduled for the first available date on D+3 because a cup match won't overwrite a cup match that's already scheduled, which is quite logical but actually disruptive when it's an unofficial cup match.
I don't really know how IE matches work, but it seems to me that they are also overwritten like friendly matches.

myforsans: Je retarde peut-être d'un métro mais Il me semblait pourtant que les matchs de coupe "écrasent" les matchs amicaux déjà programmés le même jour.
Ce qui crée les retards c'est les matchs de championnat (mais bon ça joue pas en début de saison) et les autres coupes et à ce moment là le match du tour suivant vient se caler à la première date disponible à J+3 car un match de coupe ne viendra pas écraser un match de coupe déjà programmé ce qui est assez logique mais perturbant ef

No, no more matches are overwritten.
This may have been put in place because it was also overwriting IE (and probably IS) matches. It allowed 'reverse' abuse: I see an IE in 3 days at 8pm, I click just to see who it is, or even if I've guessed who it is. The IE will go off anyway, and I can warn my friends. Unfortunately, that's what happened...

The solution would be to crush ONLY the friendly ones. That would solve everything

In fact, official cup matches used to overwhelm all other matches

I've also created an improvement project on this subject.

It would be a good idea to block the dates for the various rounds of the OFFICIAL cups 🙂 they would become available when the Club is eliminated, and it would be up to each player to choose the competition they want, official or not.

You say: I see an IE in 3 days at 8pm, I click just to see who it is, or even if I've guessed who it is. In any case, the IE will blow up, and I'll be able to warn my friends. Unfortunately, that's what happened...

???? I admit I didn't understand, I'm probably not vicious enough

Firstly, I don't know how some people do it!
Secondly, for that to work, you'd have to be sure of qualifying for the next cup round
And thirdly, I don't see why we're warning our mates, as the match has already been skipped

myforsans: Tu dis : je vois un IE dans 3 jours à 20h, je clique juste pour voir qui c'est, ou même si j'ai deviné qui c'est. De toute façon l'IE va sauter, et je pourrais prévenir les copains. Ca s'est vu malheureusement...

???? J'avoue que j'ai pas compris, je dois sans doute pas être assez vicieux

De une deviner qui c'est, hum, hum je sais pas comment certains font !
De deux, pour que ça marche ça supposerait d'être sûr de se qualifier au tour suivant de coupe
Et de trois, je vois pas de quoi

Phew, I thought you'd be sharper, what a disappointment.

From 1: rack your brains. You don't have to be 'vicious', just have eyes and use them. I assure you that there are occurrences that you can anticipate. No guarantee, of course. But in little-used slots, you know, you quickly find the same clubs... With their habits. A simple observation would have pointed you in the right direction. Last season alone, there were quite a few double encounters in certain slots such as 08:00 and 12:00....
De 2: well, if you've won your match, you're qualified, aren't you? Is that hard to understand? As long as the round doesn't end on the same day as your match, you're free to schedule whatever you want...
From 3: if you start from the principle that the date is D-2, then yes, that severely limits the possibilities, especially in certain slots. That's obvious too. But of course, there can never be an absolute guarantee.

In short, the current concern is the one that Deck mentioned. It's an interesting subject to deal with.

Magpie: Pfiouuu, je te pensais plus vif, quelle déception.

De 1 : creuse toi la tête. Pas besoin d'être "vicieux", juste avoir des yeux et de s'en servir. Je t'assure qu'il y'a des occurrences que tu peux anticiper. Sans garantie bien sûr. Mais sur les créneaux peu utilisés, tu sais, on retrouve vite les mêmes clubs... Avec leurs habitudes. Une simple observation t'aurais aiguillé. Rien que la saison dernière, il y'a pas mal de doubles confrontations sur certains créneaux comme 08h ou 12h....

Well yes, I'm probably not sharp enough or vicious enough

myforsans: Eh bien oui, je ne suis sans doute pas assez vif et pas assez vicieux ;) ;) ;)

Quand je propose ou valide un match IE je ne me torture pas l'esprit pour me dire : mince je pourrais tomber sur tel ou tel si je me positionne sur tel ou tel créneau.
D'ailleurs quand on joue dans une "grosse" entente (ou supposée telle) c'est mieux de tomber sur un club d'une autre "grosse" entente (ou supposée telle), non ?
Les matchs à 6 pts c'est quand même plus intéressant et amusant à jouer que les ma

Hmmm no, logically, it's better to come up against a lower-ranked team. Statistically, you're more likely to pick up points. In fact, it's elementary logic

Socrate: Effectivement avant les matchs de coupes officielles écrasaient tous les autres matchs.

Maintenant au cas par cas j’ai déjà avancé bon nombres de matchs de coupes.
Quand la période des matchs se situent entre J et J+3, j’y touche pas mais quand ça va au delà, déjà vu des J+10 à cause des matchs amicaux organiser par les ententes.
Je fais en sorte de prioriser le match de coupe.
Il faut juste m’avertir en mp. Car contrairement à Deck je ne m’amuse pas à regarder toutes les co

To return to our subject,

So it's up to you admins to manage and judge whether it's too far or not. Any news of the crushing of the friendlies in the pipeline?

If I get out of the LDC pools and run IE's until Feb 17th, is that ok with you? 😏😂

Personally, as an admin, not as a user.
The less I have to do, the better off I am. Because the game runs smoothly, there are fewer bugs and less cheating or attempted cheating.
So if the official cups once again took priority over other matches, I'd be doubly satisfied (as an admin and as a user) 😉

Socrate: A titre personnel en tant qu’admin et pas en tant que utilisateur.
Moins j’ai à intervenir, mieux je me porte. Car c’est que le jeu tourne bien, qu’il y’a moins de bug, moins de triches ou tentatives de triches.
Donc si les coupes officielles redevenaient prioritaires par rapport aux autres matchs, je serais doublement satisfait ( en tant qu’admin et en tant qu’utilisateur) 😉

Don't you have a union to demand this sort of thing? 😜

I find it hard to understand the need to stage so many friendlies to delay a cup, but some people are twisted....especially in Languedoc!

Hou!!!!

More nonsense, with clever kids scheduling friendlies so that they don't have to play two cup games in a row, and everything has already been postponed..

Like Myforsans, I was convinced that official matches outweighed friendly matches, so I never asked myself the question... But if that's the case, Aymeric needs to do something about it as a matter of urgency, because that would leave the door wide open to all kinds of abuse..
Aymeric, if you're reading this... ^^

Mava14: Etant comme Myforsans persuadé que les matchs officiels écrasaient les matchs amicaux, je ne m'étais jamais posé la question… Mais si c'est le cas, il serait urgent qu'Aymeric y remédie car c'est laisser la porte entrouverte à tout les abus…
Aymeric si tu nous lis… ^^

Just look at the top of the table and see the friendlies on Monday and Tuesday 🤡

We did block a cup for your matches. I don't see any reason to complain about a manager adding 2 matches to play at his convenience. Especially since, in this case, anyone can do it

Arazosv: On a bien bloquer une coupe pour vos matchs. Je ne vois pas pourquoi se plaindre qu'un manager rajoute 2 matchs pour jouer à sa convenance. Surtout que dans ce cas là, tout le monde peut le faire

That's the problem - anyone can do it!
There are 64 of us in the Round of 32
If each of us blocks one day because we have something else to do, we'll finish the cup in 2027...

But obviously that's normal, so we're not going to get in the way.

When LDC 139 encroaches on LDC 140, maybe Aymeric will react!

Perhaps the next cup round could be modified, which is always 3 days after the end of the group stages. Personally, when you have a B in training, it's a pain and I take advantage of this system, but without abuse, just for my rotation.

I've rearranged the LDC matches so that they're played over 2 days.

Socrate: J’ai replacé les matchs de LDC afin que cela se joue sur 2 jours.

This morning when I saw the LDC calendar... I scheduled an ie on the 12th... If I qualify for the next round... I won't be able to manage it... Possibility of deleting it?

Ps: I completely understand the reprog and thank you to you.

Adrimax: Ce matin en voyant le calendrier de la LDC.. j'ai programmé un ie le 12... Si je me qualifie au prochain tour.. je pourrais pas le gérer avec ma A ... Possibilité de le supprimer ?

Ps : je comprend tout à fait la reprog et merci à toi.

Collateral damage from the fair.

Ps: there are games on the 11th so next round on the 14th, that'll do for your A 😁

Deck: Dommage collatéral de la foire.

Ps: il y a des matchs le 11 donc prochain tour le 14, ça ira pour ta A 😁

The 13th? If it's the 14th, no worries.

I imagine that everyone will be delighted to play on 14/02 at 8pm because some jokers have set up friendlies to avoid playing on the 10th :)

The next round won't be played until 14 actually

Socrate: Le prochain tour se jouera pas avant le 14 effectivement

Perfect then! :D

[The 1/16 LDC matches will be played on 14 and 15 February. Please pass the message on to your colleagues. Don't expect any exceptions

Happy Valentine's Day to you all!
There's going to be some women pulling faces 🤣

Kevin-7130: Bonne Saint Valentin à tous !
Va y avoir des femmes qui vont tirer la tronche 🤣

Or men 🤣

We don't all have 2 full 99ng and 50 endu teams, so we manage as best we can

hazard14: On a pas tous 2 équipes full 99ng et 50 endu donc on gère comme on peut

And those who thought about/invested in/trained with the aim of having two teams or 50-somethings to be able to handle all the competitions didn't do it to watch the others play friendly matches

We can turn the problem around 🙃

Deck: Et ceux qui ont réfléchi/ investi / formé dans l'objectif d'avoir deux team ou des 50endu pour pouvoir assurer toutes les compétitions ne l'ont pas fait pour regarder les autres jouer des matchs amicaux

On peut retourner le problème 🙃

It's a bit like a rich person wanting everything straight away. Ta pas investir réfléchir si tu n'avez pas les fonds pour cela tu ne pourra pas le faire et à ce que je sache les LDC et Vffa sont largement fini dans les temps

If we follow this logic, once the cups are in the middle of the championship what will we do to allow those who only have one team to play?

Will we have to play friendlies between league games to finish up at the break? What about the following season?

It's a management game, and if you only have one team, that's your choice

Marcus Aurelius: Si on suit cette logique, une fois que les coupes seront en plein championnat on repoussera quoi pour permettre à ceux qui n'ont qu'une équipe de jouer ?

Faudra poser des amicaux entre les matchs de championnat pour terminer à la trêve ? Voir la saison d’après ?

C'est un jeu de gestion, si tu n'as qu'une équipe, c'est ton choix ; ça implique de faire des choix entre les compétitions et non d'imposer aux autres tes choix.
Il y en a beaucoup trop qui s'amusent à balancer des amicaux p

My choice is to give priority to the ldc even if it means putting la.B in the championship. But I'm going to stop there because apparently it's your personal desire in each subject and we don't care about the others...

For fuck's sake, it's the guys from the CP who are doing the damage!
The matches on the 12th are only (because of) them!
Bloody hell... the CP are iech ^^

hazard14: Un peu une réponse de riche qui veut tout et tout de suite je trouve . Ta pas investir réfléchir si tu as pas les fond pour cela tu ne pourra pas le faire et à ce que je sache les LDC et Vffa sont largement fini dans les temps

Didn't understand the rich guy who wants everything right away..but anyway 😅

My club was 3 years old, I spent 2 years and 10 months making choices without playing all the competitions to the full, I didn't have the squad so it was my problem not being able to provide everywhere, no big deal.

I just asked if it was normal that for the last 2 seasons we've been doing the cups à la carte whereas before it was regular.

You say you prioritise the LDC, so what's the problem, you've got 2 days between each round, that's enough to line up your A team, isn't it?
Who asked for the LDC to be played every day?

The only answer I wanted was to know whether the regular schedule was going to come back, or whether we could all do as we pleased when it suited us.

I don't give a damn if the LDC finishes on day 56 and the CDL on day 54.

Deck: Pas compris le riche qui veut tout de suite..mais bref 😅

Mon club à 3 ans, j'ai passé 2ans et 10mois à faire des choix sans jouer toutes les compétitions à fond, j'avais pas l'effectif donc c'était mon problème de pas pouvoir assurer partout, pas grave.

J'ai juste demandé si c'était normal que depuis 2 saisons on fasse les coupes à la carte alors qu'avant c'était régulier.

Tu dis que tu priorises la LDC, alors c'est quoi le problème, tu as 2 jours entre chaque tour, ça suffit

Understand what you want....
Strangely enough, if you look at the fixture list of many who are crying, you'll see friendlies sandwiched between LDC matches....

hazard14: Comprend ce que tu as envie....
Bizarrement si on regarde le calendrier de beaucoup qui pleure, on voit des amicaux mis entre match de LDC bizarrement....

The wicked rich have dared to schedule a friendly on a free day! So?

I understand what I want and you often don't understand anything I can read from each of your fabulous, off-the-wall contributions.

Good evening champion

hazard14: Comprend ce que tu as envie....
Bizarrement si on regarde le calendrier de beaucoup qui pleure, on voit des amicaux mis entre match de LDC bizarrement....

Frankly, it's unbearable
On any subject in the game you find a way to complain.
You really need to stop, it's really getting on everyone's nerves

Me complaining about it? You're the ones whining about guys trying to manage their schedules. Deck your a bit borderline as usual when we disagree with you 😉