kiki-sainté |

01/02/2025

Hi all, since last night I've noticed that players with 40, 50 reallocated potential are selling for 40M or even more for some because they have stamina and still stamina at 33 to 35
While I have trained my players for the most part it sells (80 potential) between 8 and 15M max (between 22 and 25 endu )
To find the error it is that the new vf to have players ready-made without effort that one can sell a fortune ???
I think it's outrageous and it's rare that I get angry on the 1st day of the season, but this is a big problem
If this is the future of the game, we're going to lose a lot more members and I'm sure I'll be in it, because right now I'm disgusted
Thank you for your answers,


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01/02/2025

Kiki, you're up late, they're almost 2 seasons old and there aren't any more except very rarely lol like 1 per season 😅.
What's the deal with the blinds anyway? 😝


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Kiki, tu te réveille tard, ils ont quasi 2 saisons et il n y en a plus hormis très rarement lol genre 1 par saison 😅. C'est quoi la dif avec les stores aufait…

kiki-sainté |

01/02/2025

I'm waking up late yes and no because last season I didn't see any for sale at 40M


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kiki-sainté Je me réveille tard oui et non car la saison dernière j en voyais pas en vente à 40M et puis je regarde généralement que mon club les transferts pour évaluer m…

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01/02/2025

After that, you need 10 to put them on straight... it's true that it requires less investment of time, but it's a choice made by the mdj that's been talked about a lot. So he's restricted all his players


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lens59 |

01/02/2025

You can put the link of my player even if it means receiving insults.
Estimated between 32 and 35 depending on the day's weather


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lens59 |

01/02/2025

If you have any questions, talk to the boss who has taken out quite a few players like that.
I even had an 85 ng 50 endurance rating of 100M minimum


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kiki-sainté |

01/02/2025

As I explained to you, it's not the grade or the coating that bothers me, but the potential


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lens59 |

01/02/2025

I understand, but Aymeric has put on the market a legion of 50 ng pots and other small pots with points all over the place
What's more, they have 25/40 stamina


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01/02/2025

Aymeric made an event of hiding players under the odds - you had to find them. There are still some, but it's not great now


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lens59 |

01/02/2025

Yes my player bought 10 M but I added pts and learn positions it was estimated at 20 15j ago.
Perso pas besoin de tune / il marque beaucoup de but
So 😉 .
Pour information
I'm pretty friendly, try to stay polite and courteous even if sometimes 😬
So I won't reply to the twisted mp.
And I invite you to invite the boss of this game who changes everything when he wants.
Moi perso j'étais bien avec mes 96ng avec un peu d'endurance avant de me prendre des roustes parce que mon équipe était RIP en 30 min du jour au lendemain.
For me it's just a game and if it goes to shit then I'll go and play something else 😉


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zejl |

01/02/2025

Then you need 2, because a 90 pot with 15 coating will be a hit in the last half hour, whereas an 80 with 50 may not drop quickly but will start lower but will not have to be replaced.


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kiki-sainté |

01/02/2025

It is not that which is scandalous it is 40M for a 50 of potential whereas the 80 of potential to be sold less expensive to re-examine the prices that would be well


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Blagoje Vidinic |

01/02/2025

Hail kiki.
You don't buy potential but a NG or a style of play or whatever, otherwise, following your reasoning, a potential 30 year old 84 player with 50 skill points in total, because he was poorly trained or left in an inactive team, should cost several million.
Whatever the potential, it's what the player brings to the team that's worth the price you put on him.


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kiki-sainté |

01/02/2025

I didn't say that, I said that the big potentials are worth less and that's not logical, the small potentials at 20M ok but 40M is abused, I bother to train young people to sell them at 15M no thank you and they have the same level as the small potentials why not the same price then?


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lens59 |

01/02/2025

One minute you're selling 85 jars of cdf at 150 million and the next you're miraculously selling them for 30 million


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Sun's |

01/02/2025

You still have to pay 10e for reallocations...so in my case, where I don't put any money into the game, it would be worth nothing if I found it in its basic state (yes, there are people who don't pay)


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kiki-sainté |

01/02/2025

My pleasure these last few seasons was to train so that I could resell, given that I already have the first team and replaced a few times with players from my cdf in positions where I'm short of people or who are retiring. You're taking away all my pleasure in reselling the other remaining players, given that it's no longer worth anything to sell a player bought young for 25 to 30M 15M when he's finished training and to see low-level players being resold for a fortune is total rubbish
That's my opinion, but if you think that's normal, I don't, sorry
I've been pissed off since 4.40am and believe me, it's not going to stop any time soon


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01/02/2025

Zen kiki, aymeric's latest changes have greatly reduced the training and a lot of people have lost out.

I understand your lack of understanding about this type of player and you're not the only one. However, it's still a tiny number of players who don't affect the transfer market. What keeps the market low is that there are still a lot of 99s on the market.


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Zen kiki, les dernières modifications d aymeric ont largement diminuer la formation et beaucoup y ont beaucoup perdu. Je comprends ton incompréhension sur ce t…

kiki-sainté |

01/02/2025

Except that now I have too many players and if I sell I lose 10 to 15 million per player, so I'm in a bind - I sell, I don't sell, I'm lost. In short, I won't be a billionaire any time soon


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kiki-sainté Sauf que la je me retrouve avec trop de joueurs et si be vends je perds 10 à 15M par joueur donc je suis dans une impasse je vends je ne vends pas je suis perd…

Sun's |

01/02/2025

I have to admit that I'm in the same situation as you, I preferred to buy youngsters when the average was 20/30m for the potential I was aiming for... and now I can only get 10m max out of them if I want to resell...
I'll make do with them and keep them until the generations of 99 mutants disappear


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kiki-sainté Sauf que la je me retrouve avec trop de joueurs et si be vends je perds 10 à 15M par joueur donc je suis dans une impasse je vends je ne vends pas je suis perd…

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01/02/2025

It's never a good time to sell at the start of the season, there are too many players on the market and prices fall


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Mon kiki ce n'est jamais le bon moment de vendre en début de saison, trop de joueur sur le marché et les prix chute

Rull43 |

01/02/2025

Normally yes, you're right teddy, and sometimes I see a lot of money being spent because some people redo their whole team at that time and it spends. It doesn't seem to be an exact science.


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estac |

01/02/2025

Are you prepared to spend £10 to sell a potential 50de for £40m?
That's the question.

I don't understand why you're so upset.


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estac Es tu prêt à dépenser 10€ pour vendre un 50de potentiel à 40M ? La question est la. Je ne comprends pas pourquoi tu es autant énervé.

kiki-sainté |

01/02/2025

Having spent seasons and seasons trying to make money by training 70-80s with potential and getting a pittance on resale, only to see them doubled by 50s with potential, that's why I'm so angry
So there's no point in training to resell unfortunately


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kiki-sainté Avoir passé des saisons et des saisons à essayer d avoir du fric en formant des 70 80 de potentiel et avoir des bouchées de pain A la revente formé et les voir…

Drezzo35 |

01/02/2025

The real problem in this case is the VF bet
When you see the rankings with guys with over 1000* in profits...
It's easy to make a ng99 pot40 team 😅🤭😆 and it costs nothing in the end


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Drezzo35 Le vrai pb dans ce cas de figure c'est surtout le VF bet Quand tu vois le classement avec des mecs a plus de 1000* de profits... C'est simple de se faire une é…

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01/02/2025

Ohallallala attention au bêtise lol. The vf bet ranking is wrong. It takes into account the amounts paid even if they are lost lol so the total gain is screwed up


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Sun's J'avoue être dans ton cas, j'ai préféré acheter des jeunes quand la moyenne était de 20/30m pour les potentiel que je visais...pour aujourd'hui n'en tiré que 1…

King |

01/02/2025

Why do you want to do away with the 99s?
When I see 24 year old 87 NGs leaving at 13m, personally, I tell myself that training is useless.


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King Pourquoi vouloir faire disparaître les 99 ? Lorsque je vois des 24 ans 87 NG partir à 13m, personnellement, je me dis que la formation ne sert plus à rien.

Zeus |

01/02/2025

Young people's prices are starting to plummet too


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Ohallallala attention au bêtise lol. Le classement vf bet est gruger mdr. Il prend en compte les sommes versé même si elle sont perdu lol donc le total de gain…

Drezzo35 |

01/02/2025

That's why I only said 1000* 😉
As the top 10 is marked at more than 10,000*, I made a very low average 😁


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Drezzo35 Pour ça j'ai dis que1000* 😉 Le top 10 étant marqué a plus de 10 000* , j'ai fais une moyenne très basse 😁

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01/02/2025

You lose more than you win, that's not really the problem with vf. Otherwise, you could say that leap years are to blame


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King Pourquoi vouloir faire disparaître les 99 ? Lorsque je vois des 24 ans 87 NG partir à 13m, personnellement, je me dis que la formation ne sert plus à rien.

kiki-sainté |

01/02/2025

Ah, we agree, it's only good for you if you're generous


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King Pourquoi vouloir faire disparaître les 99 ? Lorsque je vois des 24 ans 87 NG partir à 13m, personnellement, je me dis que la formation ne sert plus à rien.

Galywat |

02/02/2025

When these 99 players have disappeared again, this type of player will be worth more. Right now it's just the transition period that puts them in competition with players who are worth much more.


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Zen kiki, les dernières modifications d aymeric ont largement diminuer la formation et beaucoup y ont beaucoup perdu. Je comprends ton incompréhension sur ce t…

Mide |

05/02/2025

Hello, please can you explain the changes aymeric made? I’ve not heard of it.


Lebaygue |

01/02/2025

In any case, with patience and continuity, your bank account will grow as long as it's young people from your cdf, of course.


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Lulo |

01/02/2025

If training is useful, everyone thinks that the market price for training is wrong. Training is useful: today there are thousands of ng99s in the game, but how many are for sale? Very few, because the guys who have trained keep them for themselves. So those who train not galère to make teams ng99 without agreement. Then on the selling price. Oui à une époque tu gagnais des dizaines de million euros mais sur le papier le gain reste de le même (mais en pourcentage) tu achètent un jeune 17ans 15m et il coutera environ 30m s'il est bien formé, avant ça coûteait 50m et ça vendait 100m (même pourcentage)


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kiki-sainté |

01/02/2025

That's not the point. The point is that a 50 with potential is worth more than an 80 with potential


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kiki-sainté C est pas le sujet le sujet c est qu un 50 de potentiel vaut plus qu un 80 de potentiel

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01/02/2025

You don't pay for potential, you pay for level.


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Tu paie pas le potentiel mais son niveau.

kiki-sainté |

01/02/2025

Sorry, I don't agree with you. I paid for his potential when he was 17


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kiki-sainté Désolé pas d accord avec toi j ai payé son potentiel à ces 17 ans

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01/02/2025

You mix everything up. You compare young players formed with players e an event of aymeric. Quand tu determine votre prix de vente aujourd'hui tu ne prend pas le prix d'achat a ses 17 ans. You sell him at the market price. The problem you run into is that you're probably going to sell at a loss. But that's got nothing to do with the pot 50s, but more to do with Aymerick's changes, which have reduced the progress of youngsters. As a result, the market is struggling to adapt. The price is calibrated to 99s but there will soon be almost none left. So inevitably the market is shot.... every time aymeric changes the developments it's the same problem.


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Tu mélange tout. Tu comparés des jeunes forme avec des joueurs e un évènement d aymeric. Quand tu determine ton prix de vente aujourd'hui tu prend pas le prix …

kiki-sainté |

01/02/2025

That has to do with the 50 of potential since the problem is the price of those which disturbs me since they are higher than the others as already said like example
Ethan isn't as good as kyllian so it's cheaper logically and han 50 potential kyllian 80 potential and yes sorry the potential is useful otherwise withdraw the potential if it isn't useful as the 50 are more expensive than the 80 in short I feel like I'm speaking in javanese but why do we sell a 50 potential for more than an 80 potential I'm collecting the copys tomorrow morning 11am


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kiki-sainté Ça a voir avec les 50 de potentiel vu que le problème c est le prix de ceux là qui me dérange vu qu ils sont plus élevé que les autres comme déjà dit comme exe…

pieutte |

02/02/2025

because they have better NG/endurance.


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pieutte car ils ont une meilleur NG/endurance.

kiki-sainté |

02/02/2025

L endu they have between 8 and 10 more yes but the note no nothing more


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kiki-sainté Ça a voir avec les 50 de potentiel vu que le problème c est le prix de ceux là qui me dérange vu qu ils sont plus élevé que les autres comme déjà dit comme exe…

estac |

02/02/2025

You think no one understands you, but it's you who doesn't want to understand.
Jex has taken the time to explain things to you in different ways, but you don't want to hear anything and you think it's the others who don't understand you.
You're still stuck on a potential skill and not on a final skill.
To compare with Ireland, we've seen players with enormous potential (Bojan kric, ben arfa, robinho...). They didn't have the same potential as a Ribery or Didier Drogba, but their price at maturity was much lower.


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02/02/2025

COUCOU PAPY
sur le fond ton raisonnement n'est pas mauvais car dans la logique des choses tu as raison que les forts potentiels devraient être au dessus mais le dereglement et les prix que tu vois actuellement où le potentiel ne compte quasi plus ( cela va changer mais il faudra compter grosso 5.6 mois, jusqu'à l'ete pour voir a nouv cette diff la entre les potentiels ) mais la ng avec les reatributions qui passent au dessus du potentiel .
c'était 1 maj de A45 quand il a sorti ces joueurs la de potentiel plus faible ( pour les reatributions sur le store ), a ceci tu rajoutes les reatributions pour les style de jeux ( je me repete mais le style de jeux a flingue les enchers , je l'avais predisis à ce moment là, car a l'époque ca foutu le meme bordel )
The game needs to stabilise on the auctions but that will come through 1mdm too which will have to have certain modifications and then not touch it again for a certain time so that this standard comes back on the game play where the auctions are part of it.
to make a long story short
1 jeune 17ans a tj ete vendu plus cher que 1 99 de ng c'est 1 fait et cela depuis que je joue, va savoir pk c'est comme ca mais ca l'est et actuellement il est clair qu'il est quasi obligé pour 1 club de passer par le store de temps en arriver a s'en sortir pour être 1 minima competitif et je pense que c'est la dessus que je sens 1 peu ta frustration papy.
Passe 1 bon dimanche papy et à 1 prochaine


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kiki-sainté |

02/02/2025

It's not that I don't understand it's that it's not logical at all
So if I follow your reasoning, taking a 17 year old from 50 or 80 is the same thing
Bref le vfstore j'ai acheté quelques crédits pour avoir des maillots (dont un que j'aurais sûrement jamais 6 mois que j'attends le maillot nwo noir et rouge mais ça c'est unenautre histoire ) mais prendre des crédits pour reattribuer des joueurs de 50 de potentiel désolé mais ça c'est sans moi
I knew the 36 of potential at 30M at the beginning of the game but the 60, 70 was more expensive it has always been in this direction
Vf walks on its head, but as most use the vfstore the dinosaurs like me of the game do not find it logical 16 years of play in a sense and we change everything overnight
In short, I'm going to play again in my own corner, taking advantage of my work and my agreement
Have a good Sunday


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02/02/2025

These are not players taken from the store; they are generated and offered to new players. Their stats are scattered and are therefore underestimated.
If you looked in the right places and scrutinised each release, you'd have had to count the points and anticipate their progress to see if it was worth reallocating the points.

As I said before, it all depended on your budget and what you found. It was a very temporary event for the community announced by Aymeric. He never decided to make it permanent. Today, the mechanics are still in place with players who are much weaker, so it's no longer interesting.

We're talking about thirty players at most between 88 and 99 ng. I imagine you're stuck on that, but it's such a tiny number given the number of players coming out of the cdf.

You're fixated on that when there are far worse things.


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lens59 |

02/02/2025

If you want a 99 and have been at 120 M for 5 min


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kiki-sainté |

02/02/2025

Chambering is punishable under the rules of the game (humour)


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kiki-sainté |

05/02/2025

I still can't believe that for some people a player's potential isn't important 😁😁😁
Nothing to do with jealousy but it's just a question of logic and consistency
If low-level players perform better and are more expensive than high-potential players trained in the same way, we have a lot to worry about for the rest of the game
In other words, we'll be able to take potential 50s out of our cdfs, leave them to rot and wait for them to come back stronger with points to be reallocated via the vfstore
And by the way, stamina isn't everything, look at Usain Bolt in Ireland, he tried his hand at football and it didn't work out too well for him (yes, I wanted to reopen the subject 😁😁😁)


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estac |

05/02/2025

Usain Bolt is not known for his endurance...
Bad example 😂


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Magpie |

05/02/2025

You're mixing everything up.
Nothing you said in the previous message is coherent or factual...
Everything has been explained to you previously. If you don't want to understand it, you'll be eternally frustrated.
Anyway, I think you should change the subject.
It won't change anything anyway. These players are 'exceptional', and generated by the game. The motive is probably to keep the store running.
If you don't agree with that..... not only are you 10 trains late in expressing it, but above all it won't change anything in the game


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hazard14 |

05/02/2025

I think you'd better keep your mouth shut because from what I've read, everyone's trying to explain things to you but you're still closed to their explanations.


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kiki-sainté |

05/02/2025

Just one thing: I'm being polite, so keep it polite, because I have the right to express myself like everyone else


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kiki-sainté |

05/02/2025

Bref comme d'habitude vous avez raison et les autres tords
C'est la que la vision de l'ordre du nouveau monde NWO est différente de la vôtre ,bonne journée et toujours content de relancer le sujet pour voir vos réactions 😁😁😁


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hazard14 |

05/02/2025

Well apparently it's no use with you I can't see where I was rude lol
Bon courage à toi et surtout à ceux qui répondrons


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kiki-sainté |

05/02/2025

I misunderstood you, I thought you were telling me to take it to f, instead you should close it


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estac |

05/02/2025

The others?
I can only think of one person on this subject who has a different opinion from the others.
I'm going to make like hazard, I won't answer any more on this subject.

Ps: I can't wait for the championships to be overhauled.


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kiki-sainté |

05/02/2025

You can close the subject thank you because we do not have the right to express ourselves and tease the gods of vf thank you in advance


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hazard14 |

05/02/2025

Aaaah no, it cost me enough not so long ago to have used an "insulting" word
All I can tell you is that the players you're talking about were injected by Aymeric to, I think, relaunch his store. I agree that it made a bit of a mess, especially for the admins, as some 90 to 99ng players were bought for less than 10m


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kiki-sainté |

05/02/2025

It's what I've been denouncing since the beginning but it doesn't matter, I'm sorry I understood it instead of on your sentence but it changed the whole meaning lol
Si un admin passe par ici topic à fermé merci


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Mide |

05/02/2025

Please can someone tell me the changes aymeric made that cancels out 99NG players ?


Mide |

05/02/2025

Please someone tell me why there are no more 99ng and the Changes made

Sun's |

05/02/2025

Whit the rework of training, getting players whit 99 gen in the end of the formation gonna be more harder


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lens59 |

05/02/2025

We've seen some potential pchites.
Ben Harfa, Meriem and others.
It's not the potential on the pitch but the ability to be above potential.
Vf is the same you can have potential 50/60 ect ... who are 80/90 it's like that


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kiki-sainté |

05/02/2025

And it cost less, please close this topic


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k3vin59218 |

05/02/2025

And they cost less, to prove it:

#transferts?log&jid=567968

I paid a lot, but whoever discovered it made a nice profit, you just had to pay attention
You're going to say that we're not all necessarily connected to the game and watching each player, but that's the game 🙂


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lens59 |

05/02/2025

The thing you need to understand is that an 85g pot is worth nothing if it has 50ng, but the opposite is worth something.
The ng is the reference, not the pot


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kiki-sainté |

05/02/2025

Seriously, guys, you still don't know that I understood you from the beginning???


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05/02/2025

Sisi 😄. Kisses kiki


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kiki-sainté |

06/02/2025

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Nice price, I nearly got ripped off considering the potential 😁😁😁😁😁 potential


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Zeus |

06/02/2025

But you're out of luck 🤣


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kiki-sainté |

06/02/2025

😁😁😁


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Socrate |

06/02/2025

He may have in mind the idea of converting them into staff once he retires


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kiki-sainté |

06/02/2025

A little early at 26


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lens59 |

06/02/2025

It's not bad when you put in endurance training


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Ritter |

07/02/2025

For my part I saw a potential 15 arrived at 86 of note with the retribution of points VF.


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kiki-sainté |

07/02/2025

That's not the problem ah ah ah


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Zeus |

08/02/2025

It's a shame, Kiki, he's only got 15 potentials


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Zeus C'est honteux kiki, il a que 15 de potentiels mdr

kiki-sainté |

08/02/2025

Yes, it's shameful 😁😁😁


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kiki-sainté |

17/02/2025

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😁😁😁 It's been a long time


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lens59 |

17/02/2025

I sell them if you want to be fashionable


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kiki-sainté |

17/02/2025

Sorry, I'm not a consumer 😁😁😁


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Zeus |

17/02/2025

You're obsessed 😂😂😂


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kiki-sainté |

17/02/2025

😁😁😁


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