kiki-sainté |

45 days ago

Hi all, since last night I've noticed that players with 40, 50 reallocated potential are selling for 40M or even more for some because they have stamina and still stamina at 33 to 35
While I have trained my players for the most part it sells (80 potential) between 8 and 15M max (between 22 and 25 endu )
To find the error it is that the new vf to have players ready-made without effort that one can sell a fortune ???
I think it's outrageous and it's rare that I get angry on the 1st day of the season, but this is a big problem
If this is the future of the game, we're going to lose a lot more members and I'm sure I'll be in it, because right now I'm disgusted
Thank you for your answers,


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Teddy |

45 days ago

kiki-sainté: Slt à tous depuis cette nuit je m aperçois que des joueurs 40 ,50 de potentiel reattribuer se vendre 40M voir plus pour certains car ils ont de l endurance et encore l endurance à 33 à 35
Alors que moi ayant formé mes joueurs pour la plupart ça se vend (80 de potentiel) entre 8 et 15M maxi (entre 22 et 25 endu )
Chercher l erreur c est ça le nouveau vf avoir des joueurs tout fait sans effort qu on peux vendre une fortune ???
Je trouve ça scandaleux et c est rare que je m énerve dès

Kiki, you're up late, they're almost 2 seasons old and there aren't any more except very rarely lol like 1 per season 😅.
What's the deal with the blinds anyway? 😝


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kiki-sainté |

45 days ago

Teddy: Kiki, tu te réveille tard, ils ont quasi 2 saisons et il n y en a plus hormis très rarement lol genre 1 par saison 😅.
C'est quoi la dif avec les stores aufait ? 😝

I'm waking up late yes and no because last season I didn't see any for sale at 40M


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Teddy |

45 days ago

kiki-sainté: Je me réveille tard oui et non car la saison dernière j en voyais pas en vente à 40M et puis je regarde généralement que mon club les transferts pour évaluer mes joueurs à peu près mais la j ai vu ça sur le MC
Je ne sais pas la différence avec le store mais prendre des 80 de potentiel cher pour vendre en perte ça sert plus à rien de former

After that, you need 10 to put them on straight... it's true that it requires less investment of time, but it's a choice made by the mdj that's been talked about a lot. So he's restricted all his players


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lens59 |

45 days ago

You can put the link of my player even if it means receiving insults.
Estimated between 32 and 35 depending on the day's weather


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lens59 |

45 days ago

If you have any questions, talk to the boss who has taken out quite a few players like that.
I even had an 85 ng 50 endurance rating of 100M minimum


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kiki-sainté |

45 days ago

lens59: Pour toute question vous voyez avec le boss qui a sorti pas mal de joueurs comme ça.
J'avais même un 85 ng 50 endurance estimation 100M minimum

As I explained to you, it's not the grade or the coating that bothers me, but the potential


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lens59 |

45 days ago

I understand, but Aymeric has put on the market a legion of 50 ng pots and other small pots with points all over the place
What's more, they have 25/40 stamina


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Teddy |

45 days ago

Aymeric made an event of hiding players under the odds - you had to find them. There are still some, but it's not great now


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lens59 |

45 days ago

Yes my player bought 10 M but I added pts and learn positions it was estimated at 20 15j ago.
Perso pas besoin de tune / il marque beaucoup de but
So 😉 .
Pour information
I'm pretty friendly, try to stay polite and courteous even if sometimes 😬
So I won't reply to the twisted mp.
And I invite you to invite the boss of this game who changes everything when he wants.
Moi perso j'étais bien avec mes 96ng avec un peu d'endurance avant de me prendre des roustes parce que mon équipe était RIP en 30 min du jour au lendemain.
For me it's just a game and if it goes to shit then I'll go and play something else 😉


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zejl |

45 days ago

Then you need 2, because a 90 pot with 15 coating will be a hit in the last half hour, whereas an 80 with 50 may not drop quickly but will start lower but will not have to be replaced.


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kiki-sainté |

45 days ago

It is not that which is scandalous it is 40M for a 50 of potential whereas the 80 of potential to be sold less expensive to re-examine the prices that would be well


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Blagoje Vidinic |

45 days ago

Hail kiki.
You don't buy potential but a NG or a style of play or whatever, otherwise, following your reasoning, a potential 30 year old 84 player with 50 skill points in total, because he was poorly trained or left in an inactive team, should cost several million.
Whatever the potential, it's what the player brings to the team that's worth the price you put on him.


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kiki-sainté |

44 days ago

Blagoje Vidinic: Ave kiki.
On n'achète pas un potentiel mais une NG ou un style de jeu ou que sais-je encore sinon, en suivant ton raisonnement, un joueur de 30 ans potentiel 84 avec 50 points de compétence en tout, parce qu'il a été mal formé ou abandonné dans une équipe inactive, devrait coûter plusieurs millions.
Peu importe le potentiel, c'est ce que le joueur apporte à l'équipe qui vaut le prix que l'on y met.

I didn't say that, I said that the big potentials are worth less and that's not logical, the small potentials at 20M ok but 40M is abused, I bother to train young people to sell them at 15M no thank you and they have the same level as the small potentials why not the same price then?


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lens59 |

44 days ago

One minute you're selling 85 jars of cdf at 150 million and the next you're miraculously selling them for 30 million


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Sun's |

44 days ago

You still have to pay 10e for reallocations...so in my case, where I don't put any money into the game, it would be worth nothing if I found it in its basic state (yes, there are people who don't pay)


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kiki-sainté |

44 days ago

My pleasure these last few seasons was to train so that I could resell, given that I already have the first team and replaced a few times with players from my cdf in positions where I'm short of people or who are retiring. You're taking away all my pleasure in reselling the other remaining players, given that it's no longer worth anything to sell a player bought young for 25 to 30M 15M when he's finished training and to see low-level players being resold for a fortune is total rubbish
That's my opinion, but if you think that's normal, I don't, sorry
I've been pissed off since 4.40am and believe me, it's not going to stop any time soon


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Teddy |

44 days ago

kiki-sainté: Mon plaisir ces dernières saisons étaient de former pour pouvoir revendre vu que j ai déjà la première équipe et remplacé quelques fois avec des joueurs issue de mon cdf les postes ou il manque du monde ou qui partent en retraite la vous m enlevez tout mon plaisir de revente des autres joueurs restant vu que ça rapportent plus rien vendre un joueur acheté jeune 25 à 30M 15M quand il est fini de former et voir des joueurs de bas niveaux se revendre une fortune c est du foutage de gueul

Zen kiki, aymeric's latest changes have greatly reduced the training and a lot of people have lost out.

I understand your lack of understanding about this type of player and you're not the only one. However, it's still a tiny number of players who don't affect the transfer market. What keeps the market low is that there are still a lot of 99s on the market.


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kiki-sainté |

44 days ago

Teddy: Zen kiki, les dernières modifications d aymeric ont largement diminuer la formation et beaucoup y ont beaucoup perdu.

Je comprends ton incompréhension sur ce type de joueur et tu n es pas le seul. Cependant, ça reste une quantité infime de joueur qui n affecte pas le marché des transferts. Ce qui garde un marché bas c'est qu'il y a encore beaucoup de 99 sur le marché.

Except that now I have too many players and if I sell I lose 10 to 15 million per player, so I'm in a bind - I sell, I don't sell, I'm lost. In short, I won't be a billionaire any time soon


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Sun's |

44 days ago

kiki-sainté: Sauf que la je me retrouve avec trop de joueurs et si be vends je perds 10 à 15M par joueur donc je suis dans une impasse je vends je ne vends pas je suis perdu bref c est pas encore demain que je serais milliardaire

I have to admit that I'm in the same situation as you, I preferred to buy youngsters when the average was 20/30m for the potential I was aiming for... and now I can only get 10m max out of them if I want to resell...
I'll make do with them and keep them until the generations of 99 mutants disappear


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Teddy |

44 days ago

kiki-sainté: Sauf que la je me retrouve avec trop de joueurs et si be vends je perds 10 à 15M par joueur donc je suis dans une impasse je vends je ne vends pas je suis perdu bref c est pas encore demain que je serais milliardaire

It's never a good time to sell at the start of the season, there are too many players on the market and prices fall


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Rull43 |

44 days ago

Teddy: Mon kiki ce n'est jamais le bon moment de vendre en début de saison, trop de joueur sur le marché et les prix chute

Normally yes, you're right teddy, and sometimes I see a lot of money being spent because some people redo their whole team at that time and it spends. It doesn't seem to be an exact science.


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estac |

44 days ago

kiki-sainté: Mon plaisir ces dernières saisons étaient de former pour pouvoir revendre vu que j ai déjà la première équipe et remplacé quelques fois avec des joueurs issue de mon cdf les postes ou il manque du monde ou qui partent en retraite la vous m enlevez tout mon plaisir de revente des autres joueurs restant vu que ça rapportent plus rien vendre un joueur acheté jeune 25 à 30M 15M quand il est fini de former et voir des joueurs de bas niveaux se revendre une fortune c est du foutage de gueul

Are you prepared to spend £10 to sell a potential 50de for £40m?
That's the question.

I don't understand why you're so upset.


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kiki-sainté |

44 days ago

estac: Es tu prêt à dépenser 10€ pour vendre un 50de potentiel à 40M ?
La question est la.

Je ne comprends pas pourquoi tu es autant énervé.

Having spent seasons and seasons trying to make money by training 70-80s with potential and getting a pittance on resale, only to see them doubled by 50s with potential, that's why I'm so angry
So there's no point in training to resell unfortunately


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Drezzo35 |

44 days ago

kiki-sainté: Avoir passé des saisons et des saisons à essayer d avoir du fric en formant des 70 80 de potentiel et avoir des bouchées de pain A la revente formé et les voir doublés par des 50 de potentiel sur les prix voilà pourquoi je suis énervé tout simplement
Donc ça sert plus à rien de former pour revendre malheureusement

The real problem in this case is the VF bet
When you see the rankings with guys with over 1000* in profits...
It's easy to make a ng99 pot40 team 😅🤭😆 and it costs nothing in the end


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Lebaygue |

44 days ago

In any case, with patience and continuity, your bank account will grow as long as it's young people from your cdf, of course.


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Teddy |

44 days ago

Drezzo35: Le vrai pb dans ce cas de figure c'est surtout le VF bet
Quand tu vois le classement avec des mecs a plus de 1000* de profits...
C'est simple de se faire une équipe ng99 pot40 😅🤭😆 et ça coûte rien au final

Ohallallala attention au bêtise lol. The vf bet ranking is wrong. It takes into account the amounts paid even if they are lost lol so the total gain is screwed up


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King |

44 days ago

Sun's: J'avoue être dans ton cas, j'ai préféré acheter des jeunes quand la moyenne était de 20/30m pour les potentiel que je visais...pour aujourd'hui n'en tiré que 10m grand max si je désire revendre ..
Je fais avec et je les garderai en attendant que les générations de mutants 99 disparaissent

Why do you want to do away with the 99s?
When I see 24 year old 87 NGs leaving at 13m, personally, I tell myself that training is useless.


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Zeus |

44 days ago

King: Pourquoi vouloir faire disparaître les 99 ?
Lorsque je vois des 24 ans 87 NG partir à 13m, personnellement, je me dis que la formation ne sert plus à rien.

Young people's prices are starting to plummet too


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Drezzo35 |

44 days ago

Teddy: Ohallallala attention au bêtise lol. Le classement vf bet est gruger mdr. Il prend en compte les sommes versé même si elle sont perdu lol donc le total de gain est foireux

That's why I only said 1000* 😉
As the top 10 is marked at more than 10,000*, I made a very low average 😁


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Teddy |

44 days ago

Drezzo35: Pour ça j'ai dis que1000* 😉
Le top 10 étant marqué a plus de 10 000* , j'ai fais une moyenne très basse 😁

You lose more than you win, that's not really the problem with vf. Otherwise, you could say that leap years are to blame


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kiki-sainté |

44 days ago

King: Pourquoi vouloir faire disparaître les 99 ?
Lorsque je vois des 24 ans 87 NG partir à 13m, personnellement, je me dis que la formation ne sert plus à rien.

Ah, we agree, it's only good for you if you're generous


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Lulo |

44 days ago

If training is useful, everyone thinks that the market price for training is wrong. Training is useful: today there are thousands of ng99s in the game, but how many are for sale? Very few, because the guys who have trained keep them for themselves. So those who train not galère to make teams ng99 without agreement. Then on the selling price. Oui à une époque tu gagnais des dizaines de million euros mais sur le papier le gain reste de le même (mais en pourcentage) tu achètent un jeune 17ans 15m et il coutera environ 30m s'il est bien formé, avant ça coûteait 50m et ça vendait 100m (même pourcentage)


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kiki-sainté |

44 days ago

Lulo: Si ça sert la formation, tout le monde pense prix du marché pour la formation mais c’est a tort. La formation ça sert : aujourd’hui il y a des milliers de ng99 dans le jeu mais combien en vente ? Très peu pourquoi car les mecs qui ont formé, les gardes pour eux. Donc ceux qui forment pas galère à ce faire des équipes ng99 sans entente. Ensuite sur le prix de vente. Oui à une époque tu gagnais des dizaines de million d’euros mais sur le papier le gain reste de le même (mais en

That's not the point. The point is that a 50 with potential is worth more than an 80 with potential


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Teddy |

44 days ago

kiki-sainté: C est pas le sujet le sujet c est qu un 50 de potentiel vaut plus qu un 80 de potentiel

You don't pay for potential, you pay for level.


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kiki-sainté |

44 days ago

Teddy: Tu paie pas le potentiel mais son niveau.

Sorry, I don't agree with you. I paid for his potential when he was 17


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Teddy |

44 days ago

kiki-sainté: Désolé pas d accord avec toi j ai payé son potentiel à ces 17 ans

You mix everything up. You compare young players formed with players e an event of aymeric. Quand tu determine votre prix de vente aujourd'hui tu ne prend pas le prix d'achat a ses 17 ans. You sell him at the market price. The problem you run into is that you're probably going to sell at a loss. But that's got nothing to do with the pot 50s, but more to do with Aymerick's changes, which have reduced the progress of youngsters. As a result, the market is struggling to adapt. The price is calibrated to 99s but there will soon be almost none left. So inevitably the market is shot.... every time aymeric changes the developments it's the same problem.


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kiki-sainté |

44 days ago

Teddy: Tu mélange tout. Tu comparés des jeunes forme avec des joueurs e un évènement d aymeric. Quand tu determine ton prix de vente aujourd'hui tu prend pas le prix d achat a ses 17 ans. Tu le vends le prix du marché. Le problème que tu rencontré, c'est que tu va sûrement vendre à perte. Mais ça n'a rien à voir avec les pot 50 mais plus aux changements d aymerick qui a diminuer la progression des jeunes. Ce qui fait que le marché galère à s adapté. Le prix est calibré sur des 99 mais

That has to do with the 50 of potential since the problem is the price of those which disturbs me since they are higher than the others as already said like example
Ethan isn't as good as kyllian so it's cheaper logically and han 50 potential kyllian 80 potential and yes sorry the potential is useful otherwise withdraw the potential if it isn't useful as the 50 are more expensive than the 80 in short I feel like I'm speaking in javanese but why do we sell a 50 potential for more than an 80 potential I'm collecting the copys tomorrow morning 11am


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pieutte |

44 days ago

kiki-sainté: Ça a voir avec les 50 de potentiel vu que le problème c est le prix de ceux là qui me dérange vu qu ils sont plus élevé que les autres comme déjà dit comme exemple
Ethan est moins bon que kyllian donc moins cher logique et han 50 de potentiel kyllian 80 de potentiel et oui désolé le potentiel sert autrement retiront le potentiel si ça ne sert pas vu que les 50 sont plus cher que les 80 bref j ai l impression de parler en javanais mais pourquoi on vend plus cher un 50 de potentiel qu

because they have better NG/endurance.


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kiki-sainté |

44 days ago

pieutte: car ils ont une meilleur NG/endurance.

L endu they have between 8 and 10 more yes but the note no nothing more


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Galywat |

44 days ago

King: Pourquoi vouloir faire disparaître les 99 ?
Lorsque je vois des 24 ans 87 NG partir à 13m, personnellement, je me dis que la formation ne sert plus à rien.

When these 99 players have disappeared again, this type of player will be worth more. Right now it's just the transition period that puts them in competition with players who are worth much more.


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estac |

44 days ago

kiki-sainté: Ça a voir avec les 50 de potentiel vu que le problème c est le prix de ceux là qui me dérange vu qu ils sont plus élevé que les autres comme déjà dit comme exemple
Ethan est moins bon que kyllian donc moins cher logique et han 50 de potentiel kyllian 80 de potentiel et oui désolé le potentiel sert autrement retiront le potentiel si ça ne sert pas vu que les 50 sont plus cher que les 80 bref j ai l impression de parler en javanais mais pourquoi on vend plus cher un 50 de potentiel qu

You think no one understands you, but it's you who doesn't want to understand.
Jex has taken the time to explain things to you in different ways, but you don't want to hear anything and you think it's the others who don't understand you.
You're still stuck on a potential skill and not on a final skill.
To compare with Ireland, we've seen players with enormous potential (Bojan kric, ben arfa, robinho...). They didn't have the same potential as a Ribery or Didier Drogba, but their price at maturity was much lower.


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redbull77 |

44 days ago

COUCOU PAPY
sur le fond ton raisonnement n'est pas mauvais car dans la logique des choses tu as raison que les forts potentiels devraient être au dessus mais le dereglement et les prix que tu vois actuellement où le potentiel ne compte quasi plus ( cela va changer mais il faudra compter grosso 5.6 mois, jusqu'à l'ete pour voir a nouv cette diff la entre les potentiels ) mais la ng avec les reatributions qui passent au dessus du potentiel .
c'était 1 maj de A45 quand il a sorti ces joueurs la de potentiel plus faible ( pour les reatributions sur le store ), a ceci tu rajoutes les reatributions pour les style de jeux ( je me repete mais le style de jeux a flingue les enchers , je l'avais predisis à ce moment là, car a l'époque ca foutu le meme bordel )
The game needs to stabilise on the auctions but that will come through 1mdm too which will have to have certain modifications and then not touch it again for a certain time so that this standard comes back on the game play where the auctions are part of it.
to make a long story short
1 jeune 17ans a tj ete vendu plus cher que 1 99 de ng c'est 1 fait et cela depuis que je joue, va savoir pk c'est comme ca mais ca l'est et actuellement il est clair qu'il est quasi obligé pour 1 club de passer par le store de temps en arriver a s'en sortir pour être 1 minima competitif et je pense que c'est la dessus que je sens 1 peu ta frustration papy.
Passe 1 bon dimanche papy et à 1 prochaine


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kiki-sainté |

44 days ago

It's not that I don't understand it's that it's not logical at all
So if I follow your reasoning, taking a 17 year old from 50 or 80 is the same thing
Bref le vfstore j'ai acheté quelques crédits pour avoir des maillots (dont un que j'aurais sûrement jamais 6 mois que j'attends le maillot nwo noir et rouge mais ça c'est unenautre histoire ) mais prendre des crédits pour reattribuer des joueurs de 50 de potentiel désolé mais ça c'est sans moi
I knew the 36 of potential at 30M at the beginning of the game but the 60, 70 was more expensive it has always been in this direction
Vf walks on its head, but as most use the vfstore the dinosaurs like me of the game do not find it logical 16 years of play in a sense and we change everything overnight
In short, I'm going to play again in my own corner, taking advantage of my work and my agreement
Have a good Sunday


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Teddy |

44 days ago

kiki-sainté: C est pas que je ne comprends pas c est que c est pas logique du tout
Du coup si je vous suis dans votre résonnement prendre un jeune 17 ans de 50 ou 80 c est pareil
Bref le vfstore j ai acheté quelques crédits pour avoir des maillots (dont un que j aurais sûrement jamais 6 mois que j attends le maillot nwo noir et rouge mais ça c est unenautre histoire ) mais prendre des crédits pour reattribuer des joueurs de 50 de potentiel désolé mais ça c est sans moi
J ai connu les 36 de pote

These are not players taken from the store; they are generated and offered to new players. Their stats are scattered and are therefore underestimated.
If you looked in the right places and scrutinised each release, you'd have had to count the points and anticipate their progress to see if it was worth reallocating the points.

As I said before, it all depended on your budget and what you found. It was a very temporary event for the community announced by Aymeric. He never decided to make it permanent. Today, the mechanics are still in place with players who are much weaker, so it's no longer interesting.

We're talking about thirty players at most between 88 and 99 ng. I imagine you're stuck on that, but it's such a tiny number given the number of players coming out of the cdf.

You're fixated on that when there are far worse things.


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lens59 |

44 days ago

If you want a 99 and have been at 120 M for 5 min


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kiki-sainté |

43 days ago

lens59: Si tu veux un 99 et à 120 M depuis 5 min
Humour

Chambering is punishable under the rules of the game (humour)


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kiki-sainté |

41 days ago

I still can't believe that for some people a player's potential isn't important 😁😁😁
Nothing to do with jealousy but it's just a question of logic and consistency
If low-level players perform better and are more expensive than high-potential players trained in the same way, we have a lot to worry about for the rest of the game
In other words, we'll be able to take potential 50s out of our cdfs, leave them to rot and wait for them to come back stronger with points to be reallocated via the vfstore
And by the way, stamina isn't everything, look at Usain Bolt in Ireland, he tried his hand at football and it didn't work out too well for him (yes, I wanted to reopen the subject 😁😁😁)


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estac |

41 days ago

Usain Bolt is not known for his endurance...
Bad example 😂


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Magpie |

41 days ago

You're mixing everything up.
Nothing you said in the previous message is coherent or factual...
Everything has been explained to you previously. If you don't want to understand it, you'll be eternally frustrated.
Anyway, I think you should change the subject.
It won't change anything anyway. These players are 'exceptional', and generated by the game. The motive is probably to keep the store running.
If you don't agree with that..... not only are you 10 trains late in expressing it, but above all it won't change anything in the game


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