Sikora |

27/01/2025

In order to reduce our frustration levels and improve tactically as a team, I'm proposing that we debate one MDM-related issue each day. We're off to an easy start this Monday. Don't hesitate to send me your questions by PM. I'll publish them as I go along.


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Sikora |

27/01/2025

Question 1: how do you create a full-axis opportunity?
You've got 24 hours!😉


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k3vin59218 |

27/01/2025

Playing with 4 atC?


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Alexandre67310 |

27/01/2025

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I would have said like that but I didn't get a single one 😅🤡


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lens59 |

27/01/2025

Idea is double or slightly more in axis
Example 50 def central vs 100 / 120
Or atd / atg axis attack + an atc 50 vs 80/100
But it's not an exact science


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Sikora |

27/01/2025

I agree with you that having stats that are 4 x the opponent in a sector is svt counterproductive. We all agree that we need to line up in a central midfield attacking midfield ?


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lens59 |

27/01/2025

For me, it depends on the opponents.
3 mdc or if he's strong on the flanks midfield 1 or 2 mdc + 2 mdd/g


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Madara |

27/01/2025

Who do you think will score?
image](https://i.imgur.com/8ojAQmP.jpeg)


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Aguado |

27/01/2025

I'm fine, I was inactive, that's why!


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Aguado Ca va, j'étais inactif, c'est pour ça!

Madara |

27/01/2025

I wanted to share the illogical thing about the MDM and the display
Because if you scored on the left, that would be 100% logical
But in the centre?


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Madara Je voulais partagé le truc illogique sur le MDM et l'affichage Car là, si tu marque a gauche sa serait 100% logique Mais au centre ?

Aguado |

27/01/2025

It's a goal kick from my keeper, with the wind, the ball went much further than expected and went over your keeper. So the goal did come from the centre of the pitch, but that's just the weather!


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Aguado C'est un coup de pied de but de mon gardien, avec le vent, le ballon est allé beaucoup plus loin que prévu et a surmonté ton gardien. Le but vient donc bien du…

Madara |

27/01/2025

Oh right, thanks for the EXPLANATION


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Sikora |

27/01/2025

Maybe it's helped by this imbalance, don't you think? I often ask myself that question...
image](https://i.imgur.com/of4lcpT.jpeg)


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Sikora C'est peut-être favorisé par ce déséquilibre, non ? Je me pose souvent cette question...

Madara |

27/01/2025

I attack on the wings, I block the right side, I put myself in PC with a DFC pass put in DL and 2 lateral MD
My midfield stats go to the centre following this imbalance, but it's a way of defending one sector and attacking another
My question was, why did he score in the centre instead of on the left (which for me was logical)? He had dominated me throughout the match on that side.


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27/01/2025

Not you


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Pas toi

Madara |

27/01/2025

Do defensive stats influence attacking stats?


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Madara Es ce que les stats en défense influence les statistiques d'attaque ?

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27/01/2025

😊


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Madara Es ce que les stats en défense influence les statistiques d'attaque ?

Sikora |

27/01/2025

That's a good question...🤔


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Sikora C'est une bonne question...🤔

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27/01/2025

Of course, but not only


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lens59 |

27/01/2025

Logically white but if you ask the question is it red? 😁


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Madara |

27/01/2025

And yes, lens ، I conceded in the middle 😆
After that, the match as a whole was balanced in terms of stats and xG
But what I wanted to say is that the MDM is behind schedule...


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Madara Et bah oui lens ، j'ai encaissé au centre 😆 Après, l'ensemble du match était équilibré en stats et en xG Mais ce que je voulais faire savoir c'est que le MDM …

Zeus |

27/01/2025

Logic


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lens59 |

27/01/2025

There has to be a certain amount of surprise 😁


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hazard14 |

27/01/2025

My Akram, maybe the goal came from the left. We know that the news is on every minute but the action may have started 2 or 3 minutes later if you know what I mean


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Madara |

27/01/2025

Yes yes, except that the opponent wasn't connected
Like, that's why I'm wondering how to avoid that in the future?


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hazard14 |

27/01/2025

More success lol
I was told about one thing that I didn't think was stupid, and that was that maybe the mdm chooses one news item from a number of news items (in 5 minute segments), and this part of the chance for some people could come from that?
I agree that the randomness is too high, that's for sure, but analysing the flaws in the mdm is complicated but interesting at the same time


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Galywat |

27/01/2025

Just because red is 50/50/100 in the middle (for simplicity's sake) doesn't mean that his attacks are going to be on the left 100% of the time.

It's perfectly possible to imagine that this will be the case 50% of the time and 25% in the middle and as much on the right. Even though it's probably a bit more complex, the explanation is still rational.


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Sikora |

28/01/2025

Question 2:
When should tactical changes be made (substitutions, instructions, styles, etc.)? At the start of the match, at half-time, in the 60th minute....?
Have a great day!


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lens59 |

28/01/2025

Replacing them around 60 to 70 em
Tactical change in maths class I don't do too much any more because the mdd doesn't really follow all Change.
So in a match I'm not too active.
Changing sides to attack ect....
As far as I'm concerned, the game hasn't been as fluid for quite some time now


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28/01/2025

Şansa göre değişir üstün olduğunuz taraf ve taktikleri erkenden ele alın. Bazen anında etki eder. En az 15 dk adapte olma süresi olabilir.
Eskiden taktik değişiklikleri etki etmiyordu. Bazen çevrim dışı oyuncuları koruyor oyun. Şans.


hazard14 |

28/01/2025

It all depends on the opponent and his tactical level. Knowing how to adapt to your opponent is important


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Andre Malles |

28/01/2025

I do most of adaptation before the match (mostly in terms of formation). Even though most of the players can play in different lines and sides, I rarely utilize that versatility during the match.

As my players have decent endurance, I tend to make subs after 65, 70 or later, first to come off are usually those whose endurance is less than 30.

I don't change tactical setup, it's always high pressing (normal), attack on wings (weak), fluid defence, but if I want to attack through the middle I'd change SAL and SAR both to SAC, or I might do subs earlier and change one forward for midfielder and play with two SACs.

I almost never change style (always short passing), only if I might get a bigger bonus, but that happens almost never (well, it happened once this season, after subs, I changed to creative play in the second half in one goalless cup game).

The most common change I do is individual instruction of central defenders from participate in buildup to normal if the opposition has really high bonus in passing or plays direct. Actually with my style, I'd probably be better off always playing them on normal instruction (> +20 difference in bonus outweighs difference in overall rating), but I don't really want to.


Sikora |

28/01/2025

And when your match starts 30 seconds late, do you make your changes at 4min 30s, 5min 30s...?


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28/01/2025

Eğer kondisyonu yoksa hemen değişiklik yapmak lazım.
İlk dakikalarda bile önemli


Sikora |

29/01/2025

Question 3: How do you interpret possession? Is it important to control it in terms of how MDM works?


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Andre Malles |

29/01/2025

Possession is a relation between two teams' midfield stat at the time (max difference is 90 to 10).

If you don't want "real" defenders like myself, it's important to have high possession stat, but I also conceded once this season while having 88-89% (88.5 at that 10 minutes block). I think it helps in both defense (definitely according to my defensive stats and the number of goals conceded) and attack (don't have a stat to back this up, haven't scored many goals in league and cup, but I think it does), but only focusing on controlling possession is not the best idea and won't get you far (but I don't listen to myself, so I won't take that advice).


Sikora |

30/01/2025

Question 4: How does fluid defence work?


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Andre Malles |

30/01/2025

I've always used it, but don't really know, since I've never experimented with other option.
In theory (from the brief description provided) it should better redistribute defensive stats on left and right side for the price of (don't have a clue how much) lower combined rating in defence, so it made sense for me as I've never played with left or right defensive midfielders and even when I play with fullbacks they are not good in defence and centrally there are GK, DM, defensive AM, so I've just kept on using it.


Blagoje Vidinic |

30/01/2025

No idea: I used it all season and didn't see any adjustments when my opponents varied their attacks.


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lens59 |

30/01/2025

Logically, it should follow the opposing attack
Personally never used


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Sikora |

30/01/2025

I did the test during the match yesterday and it didn't change a thing... Other opinions


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Blagoje Vidinic |

30/01/2025

There might be a bug. I'll let Aymeric know so he can have a look.


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Madara |

30/01/2025

Maybe not, because personally I use it when the opponent is in the centre
I block the axis with 3 central players, so I have the maximum in the centre
I use fluid to block the corridors
It works like that for me (or just an impression)


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30/01/2025

It's been buggy for a long time


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C'est bugge depuis longtemps

Lebaygue |

30/01/2025

Since the beginning if this is the case ^^ but I can't believe it.
It can't be as Lens59 imagines, otherwise everyone would be in fluid... It must be more subtle in the shadow of the mdm.


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Lebaygue Depuis le début si tel est le cas^^ mais je ne peux pas le croire. Ca ne peut pas être comme Lens59 l imagine ,sinon,tout le monde serait en fluide...Ce doit ê…

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30/01/2025

When it works, it's abused, but it never works


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Lebaygue |

30/01/2025

Let's say that it's not statistically visible, but it can't have been buggy since it was introduced and then be realised 2 years later... and talk about the growth of the game at the same time.
I don't mind Aymeric saying that VF is just a pastime, but it would be great if people realised that there was a bug with the instructions.


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Azby |

30/01/2025

Try it out in a friendly and you'll see that it 'smoothes' your defensive stats.


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Lebaygue |

30/01/2025

You'll have to explain the term "smooth" now ^^... Because it wasn't very effective for those who used it.


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Demi-cerveau |

30/01/2025

I'm curious to read the answers, because I've never understood from the statistics how it could work.


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k3vin59218 |

30/01/2025

I tested it on my match of the day ... saw no difference


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Magpie |

30/01/2025

I also think it's completely buggy.
It never works when I try. And very few people know how it really works.
Maybe it only works if you choose it at the start?

In any case, the few times it's worked against me (AFK opponent), it's been formidable. It automatically covered the areas where I sent the mash. It was very interesting.
But impossible for me to reproduce.

Oh, and it's supposed to take more physical effort, like pressing (according to Aymeric45 during the audio). Not very obvious there either...


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Azby |

30/01/2025

It takes a significant portion of the stats on the side you're blocking and redistributes them to the other two.

I can't say if it's buggy, I haven't used it for a while. And I'm not going to test it on my evening match ^^


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Lebaygue |

30/01/2025

If I'm following you, for this to work or at least to see something in terms of figures, you'd first have to block one side?
And that would at least balance the centre and the other side?


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Blagoje Vidinic |

30/01/2025

I'm using it now and nothing special is happening.
My opponent switches sides but my defence (the stats) doesn't follow.


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30/01/2025

It triggers once a season, you don't know why


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