Skyred |

6 month ago

Good evening everyone, I hope you're all well this New Year's Eve. For my part, I'd like to mention a point in the rules that annoys me enormously. I've disagreed with several admins who tell me that a 70NG player with badly distributed points and a 95NG player have the same value. This rule really needs to be changed because it really makes NO SENSE. In no way can these two profiles have the same value!!!!! In short, I wish you all a very good evening and a happy new year!


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Ancelloti |

6 month ago

Good evening, could we have the regulation in question


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Socrate |

6 month ago

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Morten34 |

6 month ago

Skyred: Bonsoir à tous j'espère que vous allez tous bien en ce réveillon. Pour ma part j'aimerais faire part d'un point du règlement qui m'énerve énormément. J'ai pu être en désaccord avec plusieurs admins qui m'affirment qu'un joueur 70NG avec des points mal répartit et un joueur 95NG ont la même valeur. Va vraiment falloir changer ce règlement car cela n'a vraiment AUCUN SENS. Aucunement ces deux profils peuvent avoir la même valeur!!!!! Bref sur ce je vous souhaite à tous une très bonne soirée et ...

Logic... you take an NG 70 player who is poorly distributed, you reallocate his carac points to the VF Store and you get an NG 95 player.


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Skyred |

6 month ago

As you say, you have to go through the store to get the same NG^^ so I'm sorry but this point in the rules is absurd. Put the two players up for auction or on a list and you'll see which one will start at a much higher price^^


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Morten34 |

6 month ago

It's precisely to avoid abuse that we have this point of regulation.


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Wissam.Mn |

6 month ago

A player marking speed/technique/passing with 99 in each characteristic will cost much less than a normal 99g


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Morten34 |

6 month ago

Wissam.Mn: Un joueur marquage vitesse/technique/passe avec 99 dans chaque caractéristiques coûtera bien moins chère qu'un 99g normal

But if you reallocate his carac points via the store, you'll make him an NG 99, which clearly shows that they're of equal value. Incidentally, transfers are regularly cancelled after being reallocated. Otherwise, the transfer market is meaningless. How can you then justify the fact that a reallocated NG 99 was sold for 10 M when all the other equivalent NG 99s were sold for 70 M, for example?


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Wissam.Mn |

6 month ago

We pay with real money the reallocation at the end of the day


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Wissam.Mn |

6 month ago

It's an opinion, I won't get into a debate about it


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Arnoldo09 |

6 month ago

So a 24-year-old with 20pts in 10 features will cost as much as a 24-year-old 99ng? And yet you have to pay 10 quid to catch up... not very coherent or fair...


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Socrate |

6 month ago

It's important to distinguish between "it will be worth the same price" and "it can't be sold/bought for the same price"

The table gives us a value that we can easily go as far as -50% or +50%
So if, according to Arnoldo's or Wissam's example, a well-established 24 year old 99 NG is "worth 60M" according to the settlement table.
We can easily buy/sell our Marquage 99 - style 99 at 30M or our player with 20 points everywhere to be reallocated also at 30M

So I can understand why you think that these different types of player, when they have to go through the Vfstore, can't be bought or sold at the same price.
However, they have the same value because they have the same number of points.


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Teddy |

6 month ago

Arnoldo09: Donc un 24ans qui a 20pts dans 10 caractéristiques, coûtera autant qu'un 24ans 99ng ? Alors qu'il faut payer 10 balles pour le rattraper... pas très cohérent ni juste...

I'm a bit grumpy about it, but the low margin is still easily accessible. Just take the number of pts once redistributed and take the low margin. These are still crazy opportunities. Don't be too greedy


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Morten34 |

6 month ago

Wissam.Mn: On paye avec de l'argent réel la réattribution au bout du compte

Yes, but the VF STORE exists and we have to take that into account.


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sora02 |

6 month ago

Morten34: Mais si tu lui réattribues ses points de carac via le store, tu en feras un NG 99, ce qui montre bien qu’ils sont de valeur égale. D’ailleurs, il arrive régulièrement qu’on annule des transferts après réattribution. Sinon, le marché des transferts ne veut plus rien dire. Comment justifier ensuite qu’un NG 99 réattribué ait été vendu 10 M alors que tous les autres NG 99 équivalents sont à 70 M par exemple?

You were less annoyed when there was the flurry of 45s from potential to 99 NGs not reallocated last July/August.

This flock that several managers rushed to see in order to rip off the youngsters arriving for 5m.

But I haven't seen any transfers cancelled.

Word to the wise


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Morten34 |

6 month ago

sora02: Ca vous genait moins quand il y a eu la flopée de 45 de potentiel a 99 NG non réattribué en juillet/aout dernier.

Cette flopée que plusieurs managers se sont empressé d'aller voir pour arnaquer les jeunes arrivant à coup de 5m.

J'ai pourtant vu aucun transfert annulé.

A bon entendeur

You never call a truce... Instead of verbally abusing us on New Year's Eve, you would have asked nicely why, that would have been better. But courtesy can't be bought... If these transfers haven't been cancelled, it's because there's a reason, believe me. It was an express instruction from Aymeric for these players. It's his game, he decides, but certainly not me or you. I wish you all the best for the future.


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lens59 |

6 month ago

"C'eût "jamais vu jamais lu chapeau 😊


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Teddy |

6 month ago

sora02: Ca vous genait moins quand il y a eu la flopée de 45 de potentiel a 99 NG non réattribué en juillet/aout dernier.

Cette flopée que plusieurs managers se sont empressé d'aller voir pour arnaquer les jeunes arrivant à coup de 5m.

J'ai pourtant vu aucun transfert annulé.

A bon entendeur

An event announced by Aymeric during a voice. The admins didn't know about it and it was complicated for them.
Stop thinking that they're amused by sanctioning you.


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pieutte |

6 month ago

Hi afterwards, at the time there were cdf players who came out well ahead before being reallocated. And we weren't sold for that much.
Some were nerfed, others not. Why now should reallocated players be counted at the same value as better trained players?

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It still exists by the way.


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vf:fed:no |

6 month ago

pieutte: Salut après, à l époque y a des joueurs du cdf qui sont sortie avec beaucoup d avance avant reattribution. Et on était vendu pas si cher que ça.
Certains on était nerfé d autres non. Pourquoi maintenant les joueurs reattribuer doivent être compter à la même valeur que des joueurs mieux entrainer ?

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Il existe toujours d ailleurs.

You have an unanswered call


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Socrate |

6 month ago

Some people really do have a long memory.
Before does not start at the same time for everyone.
Happy New Year to you all 🥂


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Zeus |

6 month ago

See you next year!


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redbull77 |

6 month ago

Morten34: Oui mais le VF STORE existe et on est bien obligés d’en tenir compte.

hello
deja bonne fin d'annee a toutes et tous
morten c'est 1sujet que j'avais deja aborde en disant que votre tableau n'est pas juste et qu'il crame le marché des transferts tout comme le style de jeux.
D'apres ce tableau, 1billet de 10eur irl vaut donc la meme chose que 30m vf(, grosso modo c'est ca.
i've already shown you several times that you can't use the vf store as an example because the purchase price differs according to the level of the players on the store, so if you use the store in your calculations you also need to use the levels of the players on the table.
1niv1 will pay 10m and a few stars
1niv2 will pay 30m ext ext
these tables are obsolete morten


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Zeus |

6 month ago

Oh no!


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Plarchios |

6 month ago

It's a good thing this rule exists, because the VF store was originally set up to encourage players to put money into VF.

This is already the case with the players in the store, so let's not go any further. This rule is fine.
You can have a 50% discount, that's fine.


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Zeus |

6 month ago

Skyred: Bonsoir à tous j'espère que vous allez tous bien en ce réveillon. Pour ma part j'aimerais faire part d'un point du règlement qui m'énerve énormément. J'ai pu être en désaccord avec plusieurs admins qui m'affirment qu'un joueur 70NG avec des points mal répartit et un joueur 95NG ont la même valeur. Va vraiment falloir changer ce règlement car cela n'a vraiment AUCUN SENS. Aucunement ces deux profils peuvent avoir la même valeur!!!!! Bref sur ce je vous souhaite à tous une très bonne soirée et ...

The bg is tense :D


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