Fontenit85 |

7 days ago

Hello everyone.

The fluid defence allows you to move sideways but supposedly the loss of physique increases.
I've looked at the physical fitness of my players and I don't see any difference. Is it because I play pressing and that is equivalent?


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Mide |

7 days ago

Probably. Highpressing takes a lot more physical condition if you ask me. I'm not sure but I notice a slight difference whenever I use hughpressing.


Zeus |

7 days ago

Yes pressing haut consumes more physics


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michbou |

7 days ago

It's normal to be aggressive


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Bastoun_34 |

6 days ago

Fontenit85: Bonjour à tous.

La défense fluide permet de se déplacer latérement mais sois disant la perte de physique augmente.
J'ai regardé avec les physique de mes joueurs pour moi il y a aucune différence. Est ce parce que je joue pressing et cela équivaut?

It says that fluid defence lowers overall stats, not that it has an impact on physics. In any case, it's one of the VF feats that I don't think I've ever used, because I didn't clearly understand what it did.


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S0upe |

6 days ago

Bastoun_34: Il y a écrit que la défense fluide diminue les stat globales, pas que cela a un impact sur le physique. En tt cas, ça fait partie des feat de VF que je n'ai je crois jamais utilisé, faute de comprendre clairement ce que ça faisait.

Basically, your defence adapts more or less on its own to your opponent's attack and follows the attack on the wings or in the centre


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Kirill22 |

6 days ago

Ok for that, but is it quantifiable? Do we know how many points defenders lose if they switch to "fluid defence"?
Also, do many of you play fluid defence?


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Lebaygue |

6 days ago

Kirill22: Ok pour ça, mais est ce quantifiable? Est ce que l'on sait combien cela fait perdre de points aux défenseurs en cas de passage en "défense fluide"?
Par ailleurs, beaucoup d'entre vous jouent en défense fluide?

In terms of numbers, it makes no difference to your defence and nothing to the opposition's attack either.


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Fontenit85 |

6 days ago

Yes, but then fluid defence with high pressure is useless?


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Lebaygue |

6 days ago

Maybe in the calculation of the match engine, but staistically you can't see any difference... And I've had a lot of goals on one side despite the fluid defence.
It's true that this instruction is a bit of an enigma.


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Bastoun_34 |

5 days ago

Reading the responses, I think it's useful if you're not following the game, and you're not there to adapt to an opponent who's wiping the floor with attack. So if you know that you're not going to be able to be there, or that you're going to miss the start => you switch to fluid defence, at the cost of a few of your stats (a bit like how pressing gives you possession at the cost of your defence).


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myforsans |

5 days ago

I don't know the real impact on stats of using fluid defence because I don't use it, but what I do know is that if you manually "wipe the ice" in defence and/or attack, it temporarily lowers your stats (at least on display)


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Azby |

5 days ago

Bastoun_34: A lire les réponses, je pense que c'est utile si tu suis pas le match, et que t'es pas là pour t'adapter à un adversaire qui fait l'essuie-glace en attaque. Donc si tu sais que tu vas pas pouvoir être présent, où que tu vas louper le début => hop, tu passes en défense fluide, au prix d'un peu de tes stats (un peu comme le pressing te fait gagner de la possession au prix de ta défense).

That's how I use the instructions. When I'm well in place and an opponent is content to play left/right, I switch to fluid defence and go off to do something else.


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Bastoun_34 |

5 days ago

Azby: C'est mon utilisation de la consigne. Quand je suis bien en place et qu'un adversaire se contente de faire gauche/droite, je passe en défense fluide et je pars faire autre chose.

Yep, I imagine that's enough to keep you from being totally out of pocket on one side.


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guantanamera |

4 days ago

i always play fluid defence and it doesn't seem to make any sense


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lens59 |

4 days ago

It seems to me that a fluid origin lowers the rating slightly


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Bastoun_34 |

4 days ago

From what we understand, it lowers the overall score for the defence, but on the other hand, it adapts to changes in the left/right/centre of the opposing attack. So it's useful when you're not behind the screen.


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Pierabou |

4 days ago

i haven't tried it again for a long time, but it doesn't seem to work at all.


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Brutus |

3 days ago

Well, in my opinion (I've never used it), if the "fluid" lowers the stats (def., a priori)... if, when you change sides, it lowers the stats too... then it evens out, doesn't it?

You should try it in a friendly!


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