Hi all, I know that you are all having a big sleep at this time but I just spend a little time playing the game to try out even more cultured my knowledge fell by this Forum #forum?topic=160487
It's not if I will be punished for having spoken about the decisions of the administrators but I read and authorized myself but I note that the sanctions are really heavy, there are only deletions of the clubs I find it a bit unfair to delete a club that has embezzled more than 600M but that has done more than 5 years in the game and I am not only talking about the time but also the embezzlement of the Like, things to expect when you're an admin, I think that these are sanctions that can be taken if the mistake is made repeatedly.
A manager who has embezzled finances and a manager who throws incorrect words at the other who deserves a great sanction.
Good night to all

It is very clearly stated in the rules that the use of multiple accounts will be sanctioned by a permanent block...

Remember the A series where a big % of the team was relegated and financially sanctioned
For match-fixing and betting it seems to me.
There are rules, 600M is a hell of a lot of money on the game.
Managers who have been there since the beginning of the game have not or even never had this amount in the bank.
Many agree not even this amount.
So I approve of this sanction

Looked at the definitive removal of a club as a life sentence in criminal matters and I don't think that a misappropriation leads to a life sentence I believe that Barcelona fans can explain this because they have lived without forgetting that this money is imaginary while there are clubs suppress that put real money at stake I think they should have been offered a second chance there is better to make that the definitive suppression of a sudden the act is discovered

Perhaps compared to what is comparable would be a good start in the acceptance of the regulation and the sanctions that result from it.

A second chance?
And what do you think will happen the second time?
We all make mistakes and mistakes deserve a second chance, but cheating is a deliberate act that the perpetrator knows full well will result in a sanction if it is discovered. If the sanction is not a deterrent, the desire to cheat will always be stronger.

600M is equivalent to a bank 😁 robbery

It's all the more stupid to cheat and embezzle fictitious money if you throw real money into the game with a risk of getting blocked. If people could play without exploiting flaws, cheating or whatever, it wouldn't be too bad.

Everything is said. 😊

You hadn't understood me yet the problems are not there cheating but the sanction I think that everyone has an amount that they spend on their games each month let's take the same example I do 3 years in the game and that I put 30€ in the game each month that's 1800€ guys enough to pay for a PS 5 with all the versions updated then blocked my account because of my first mistake at the game if the rules are put in place because we know that they are bypassed.
My problem is on this rather severe sanction but there are other sanctions if he embezzled 600M why not bring it back to 0 instead of breaking everything.

It would be a little too realistic if we could escape sanctions based on our wallet. :o)

Even 40 years of play is 600M if I am president of an association or other, even 40 years and I embezzle money, do we give a second chance?
I was seized all house, car, bank account ect...

No, but I think we're all idiots, we don't understand. So let's continue to understand nothing and to play as cleanly as possible.

After that, just right, not all sanctions are so "harsh". It all depends on the degree of the fault, the fault itself, whether it is a recurrence or not, and a whole lot of other things.
In the case you raise, it seems that it is a scheme with several clubs, multis, etc. This is little more than a "small mistake". It's something that is intentional, that lasts over time, surely, on a large scale.

The problem is that the 600M are imaginary but the money we invest in the game and time is not imaginary is real.
I'm not saying not to sanction but to bring the bank back to 0 the infrastructures to level 1 cancelling the recent transfers would already be a good way to sanction cheating when you know how long it takes to evolve its infrastructures more than 2 years by the way this is the most discouraging sanction of all for me

Anyway it's the bumps that decide the sanction
So there is no debate

Yes, that's what I think for me the permanent deletion is not a good measure when I think that bringing the bank back to 0 and the level 1 infrastructures and cancelling the recent transfers would still be a crueler sanction than the permanent deletion of the account

Don't cheat and there will be 0 account resets, be reassured 😉

600M next to my 80MM is not much, let's see.

I have the impression that I am reading a debate on refusals to comply where the problem never comes from the one who makes a mistake but from the one who catches him in the act.

It's crazy news, but 100% of people who don't cheat are not punished.

In a TV news today he explained that a tobacconist received a letter with a €50 note
This letter explained that when he was a child he stole candy and that now as an adult he regrets and pays his debt 😁.

There are some who want to stick to the IRL. So I say in February 2024, a guy was sentenced to 3 years in prison, including 1 year in prison for embezzling money from a departmental council. Let's apply the same thing here. A ban for the duration of the prison term.
Knowing that on VF, it's 600 M that was diverted and in irl it was 400,000
I take out my little abacus:
60M / 400,000 = 1,500 so let's ban the cheater for 1500 years. His club will not be dissolved.
With that, I take my place again at the zinc. Waiter, I can have a 22nd pint

Being in poker with a moderator it's wrong in the comma he banned a player 9,000000 years 😁

Se why the sanction of definitive deletion is bad thought to modify it a little the barcelonner knew their history but I never heard a club remove itself not even real

Just like VF which is not real.

I received 50% 🤣
well it's written everywhere and even in the admin news

I have the plans and the account 😉 books

As a recent player on the game (8 months), I spend a lot of time on a daily basis and invest a lot in it, like certainly many other players. Whether he is a 5-month-old, 5-month-old or 10-year-old player, the sanction must be the same. Otherwise, what is the message conveyed to other players, especially to recent players?! I understand that some have been on the game for a very long time, but if we want the game to last and continue to develop, the voices of newer players must also be heard (except when it's to read huge nonsense!, but the older ones say a lot too! :p).
And then, if for some, 600M is not big, for "rookies" like me, it's huge and it remains a completely utopian sum today.

Don't cheat and you won't have to ask yourself the question 👌

The sanctions are very good.

Already having 600 m on VF is like a dream for me.
Diverting 600 m is huge, and the only sanction that can have is a ban.

So the admin team is right.