Good evening, it's not really a bug but I don't know where to put this but my opponent that I'm playing at the moment has 37 players in his squad and I find that it's an advantage over other clubs to chain the IE and the LDC. I was told to create a topic because the person has already been warned about this. Best regards

I was going to tell you maybe a coach... but no...

Oh the rascal It's maple syrup that :D

Probably loan returns

michbou: Sûrement des retours de prêts

I had already noticed 4-5 days ago

Since we are talking about a member of my agreement I will answer for him, these are loan returns 😉 I think he finds it so small that he prefers not to answer so I answer as president.

It happens to me + 32 with the loan retros but I try to represent or sell as quickly as possible. Since the transfer market is not crazy it can take several days

When you have a full squad of 32 players and loan returns arrive, this kind of situation occurs AND has been the case for a long time.

It would have been much better to go and ask him in a message rather than exposing it here.

This results from loan returns that create a temporary surplus while players leave on loan or others are sold. On the one hand, it is not written in the regulations that it is forbidden to have more than 32 players and there are many clubs to which this happens. On the other hand, contrary to what is said, it does not really create an advantage for official matches because in general the extra players are young people and on the contrary, the fact of temporarily having too many young people risks in the end that they will play less. and progress less if there are too many of them. To resolve this issue, if the admins judge that it is an advantage, the program that manages loan returns should block the return to the original club if the club's squad has reached a certain threshold (32 or why not another that would be decided by the admins but currently this is not the case). Rather than posting this as a bug, it should rather be posted in the part of the forum dedicated to improvement projects.

Before opening this topic I contacted a moderator, he told me to open a topic because they already warned him. So the loan returns are not from this morning I think ;)

What is small is that the situation continues, while I am well placed to know that the remark was already made to him by the administrators, the subject had even been brought up to Aymeric, there must be traces of it in various places on the forum. It seems a bit cheeky to me to try to pose as a victim as you are doing once again. Besides, Myforsans does not do it, and lent players in the wake of the subject to comply with the rules, it is much better like that.

That's good, that will give me a little more work to check that everyone is in order on this then 😉

It seemed to me that we were stuck at 32 except for the coach during the selection. When I had 32 players and loan returns were taking place, I was stuck and the return was postponed every 15 minutes it seems to me

Clamsii: Il me semblait qu'on était bloquer à 32 sauf pour le selectionneur lors de la selection.
Moi quand j'avais 32 joueurs et que des retours de prêts avaient lieu , j'étais bloqué et le retour était repousser toute les 15 minutes il me semble

It was much better like that by the way every 15 minutes but I almost had the blow this season because I couldn't sell to make room so I either extended the loans or sold off no choice The problem with loans is the price in case they are taken back but an effort was made I think at the end of the season so you have at least a week to get yourself in order and not exceed the quota of 32 players, but if no one buys players from you it's a bit of a disaster unfortunately

kiki-sainté: S était bien mieux comme ça d ailleurs toutes les 15mn mais moi j.ai faillit avoir le coup cette saison car je n arrivais pas à vendre pour faire de la place du coup j ai soit prolonger les prêts soit bradé pas le choix
Le problème des prêts c est le prix en cas qubon le reprenne mais un effort à été fait je crois en fin de saison donc tu as au moins une semaine pour te mettre en règle et pas dépassé le quota de 32 joueurs ,mais si personne t achete de joueur c est un peu la cata m

For the case in question I don't think it's hard to sell your players, unless you set prices outside the market. Which is not supposed to happen with existing tables 😉 And then, it's a management game, loan returns have to be anticipated a minimum, right? That you have 35 players 1 or 2 days at the start of the season while you loan again or sell is understandable to everyone I think. That you have 37 to 40 behind, a little less. The club in question seems to be regularizing so all the better. But I completely understand the basic complaint of the club that feels cheated! Tomorrow who tells us that others will not follow suit and use this pseudo loophole to have 40 competitive players during the Champions League groups? Let's see what the admins decide in the long term for this kind of case, if there is tolerance or not! Good game to all 🙂

Once again, having more than 32 players: 1) is not forbidden in the rules 2) does not seem to go against the will of the creator of the game since the admins dared to ask him the question and he did not technically block the fact that a player cannot come back from a loan if there are already 32 players in the club's squad. 3) prevents bidding on a player or taking a player out of the CDF 4) is not an advantage for acquiring XG since each player plays less on average 5) is not an advantage for acquiring affinities since each player plays less often with his colleagues 6) we could even add (even if it is very marginal) costs more each week in salaries. etc. For reasons 3, 4 and 5, a club can even consider that it is more interesting to have fewer than 32 players than to have exactly 32. Besides, many "big" clubs in the top 20 of the VF ranking have between 22 and 28 players and not 32 LR ¤ A.S Hohengoeft ¤  : 28 Alizouzou -NV- : 25 ESLU Aussie-Piabou -NV- 28: LR ¤ CS Hamamus-Lifus ¤ : 22 Given the level of these clubs and the probable level of their finances, I think that it is voluntarily that they have less than 32 players and that it is a choice for them not to have 5 or 6 more. Conversely, other clubs in the top 20 have more than 32 players CSKA Midgar [~CP~] : 33 Championnet Sports ¤NWO¤ : 33 A priori, they are free to make this choice given the rules of the game. It is a management game. So some optimize their squad to 22 and others to more. So the controversy seems to me to be quite futile as long as the rules say nothing on the subject and as long as the program settings do not prevent, it seems voluntarily, from having a 33rd player. But those who have a contrary opinion are free to submit a proposal in the part of the forum reserved for "improvement projects". The section is made for that. (rather than the bug part :) ) And then, it will be up to the game admins to decide what to do next with this improvement project. NB: Besides, I am certain that if the regulations said that we could go for example up to 50 players, I think that no club would have 50 players. and probably almost none would have 40.

Yeah, well, having 37 players is still a significant tactical advantage, not to mention the ease of management at the start of the season, yes the competitions follow one another, with the physical training camps, etc... For my part, yes, I admit I am at 33. A manager has to buy a player from me, and is dragging his feet (he has to sell first). So I will sell elsewhere, and go back to 32 as soon as possible, I think it is healthier to play like this. On the other hand, I had warned an admin ;)

But so how long has it been since this blockage above 32? It can't have been that long

So if now it would be "tolerated", it would be good if the rules specified the precise limits of tolerance. Otherwise everyone will have their good (or bad) reason to justify this or that excess. In my opinion to avoid any unnecessary controversy:, 2 possibilities: 1) either each club is free to have as many players as it wants (and in any case it will self-limit for the aforementioned reasons) 2) or a game setting blocks loan returns, as was the case before.

So if the game doesn't block it, is it legal? So, we can make multiple accounts and cheat since it's not blocked by the game. Your justification is nonsense. You're over the limit, period.

myforsans: Encore une fois le fait d'avoir plus de 32 joueurs :

1. n'est pas interdit dans le règlement
2. ne semble pas aller contre la volonté du créateur du jeu puisque les admins lui ont osé la question et qu'il n'a pas bloqué techniquement le fait qu'un joueur ne puisse pas rentrer de prêt s'il y a déjà 32 joueurs dans l'effectif du club.
3. empêche d'enchérir sur un joueur ou de sortir un joueur du CDF
4. n'est pas un avantage pour l'acquisition de XG puisque chaque joueur joue moins en mo

Ok so it is not stated in the rules precisely. On the other hand it is clearly displayed on the page of each club that the maximum number of players is 32. It is however written in the rules: A bug or a flaw in the game must be reported to the anti-cheat admin as well as to the game moderator. Its voluntary use in order to make a profit is prohibited. In the event of voluntary use of a flaw, you will receive a warning + fine + deletion of the property acquired thanks to the flaw. In the event of a repeat offense, your club will be reset or deleted directly. So you are using a game flaw allowing you to have more than the limit and it is not one or two players temporarily, which is intended to have an advantage over the other teams. Especially since it is clearly a regular practice and you have already had reminders ...

We have to see at what point in the season the surplus of players is. 37 in the middle of the championship with (often) only 1 important match every two days, it's counterproductive. 37 with an important match every day, there, it can become an unfair advantage.

On the other hand, compared to one of my members who has 33 players while he had 37 at the start of the season and did everything to get rid of them, it is the tactics of the defense that make the attack. I myself flirted with the 32 players, I delayed my transfer window because of that. The best thing is to be at 32 players maximum like everyone else, it avoids stories for nothing, get back up to speed and forget this story and be careful now because I think there will be no other warnings and it would be stupid to be blocked for that.

Clamsii: Mais du coup depuis combien de temps il n'y a plus ce blocage au dessus de 32 ? ça ne doit pas faire si longtemps que ça

Ave Clam'! It's been several years now. When I loaned players for training to LR, I often had more than 32 players in the first days of the season.

Check your numbers carefully, friends, this topic could be useful 😉

What is this topic?? A bug or a report??🤔🤔

kiki-sainté: Par contre comparé un de mes membres qui a 33 joueurs alors que lui en avait 37 en début de saison et fait tout pour s en défaire, c est la tactique de la défense qui fait l attaque
Moi même j ai flirté avec les 32 joueurs ,j ai retardé mon mercato d ailleurs à cause de ça
Le mieux c est d être à 32 joueurs maxi comme tout le monde ça évite des histoires pour rien ,remet toi à niveau et oublions cette histoire et fais attention maintenant car je pense qu il n y aura pas d autres

If 37 is a problem, then 33 is the same problem no matter what anyone says... if for you it's 32 then 33 is a violation... You're still whining about loan returns It's going to end up with Aymeric blocking everything like that, we'll have lost everything again...

Blagoje Vidinic: Ave Clam' !

Ça fait plusieurs années déjà.
Quand je prêtais des joueurs pour la formation a des LR, j'avais souvent plus de 32 joueurs dans les premiers jours de la saison.

Ave titi! Thanks for this answer I didn't think it had been so long ^^

We would need Morten's (or Aymeric's) opinion on this subject and to clarify this.

junior: Si 37 pose un problème,alors 33 c'est le même problème quoi qu'on en dise .....si pour toi c'est 32 alors 33 a enfreinn....
Vous êtes en train encore de chouinet pour des retours de prêt
Ça va finir par Aymeric va tout bloquer comme ça ,on auras encore tout perdu ....

The point is not 33 or 37, it's about getting to 32 fairly quickly, at the limit, leaving a week to get back up to speed but no more.

#forum?topic=164593 I didn't particularly want to refresh memories but hey .... Here is the topic, dating back 3 months, concerning the same problem, the same club, and with Morten's answer if some want to reread it. At the time he exceeded 44 contracts, at least on this point we have progressed. The rules also do not specify that we must play with a single goalkeeper, with a maximum of 5 players in the middle, etc ... It turns out that if we buy a starting player in his club, he arrives directly on the field in our team. We can therefore have 3 goalkeepers in a match, or 7 or 8 players in the middle of the field. Is this accepted? Isn't this a diversion of the rules of the game? The mechanism for getting to exceed 32 players is quite simple. We take advantage of a player leaving for a short loan (IS or federation) to make a transfer, to get a young player out of the CDF .... And when the loans return we exceed 32 players. It is indeed regularly used, I was able to use it myself to get a player out of the training center I admit. But it seems to me that there is a difference between a situation that lasts 24 hours or 48 hours, and another that extends over more than a week.

hazard14: Vérifier bien vos effectifs les amis ce sujet pourra servir 😉

Looking forward to 12/10 👌

The topic can be moved to the game and its community instead of being in bug??

bluethunders26: Le sujet peut être déplacé dans jeu et sa communauté au lieu d être en bug ??

to move the subject, only aymeric can do it

Nitnelav: Vivement le 12/10 👌

Are you doing it on purpose? We tell you that when it's 24 to 48 hours, especially at the start of the season with loan returns, it's okay. But when it's regular, recurring and in the middle of the season, it's a bit excessive. I don't understand why you're retorting like that. Apparently, he's regularizing, so that's great. He's not going to be sanctioned for that, it's not that serious. But we all have to be equal, that's all. Have a good season.

Yes David, I agree with you. I just don't find it shameful to have for 2-3 days (no matter when in the season, because the loans are not all perfectly timed) more than 32 players. But honestly is it worth making a post?

Nitnelav: Oui David, je suis d'accord avec toi. Je ne trouve juste pas ça honteux d'avoir pendant 2-3 jours (peu importe quand dans la saison, car les prêts ne sont pas tous calés parfaitement) plus que 32 joueurs.
Mais honnêtement ça vaut le coup de faire un post?

For some it is absolutely necessary to make posts and for others especially we say nothing about a case that has lasted for 3 months. But if it is normal and everything is fine go everyone has 40 players and we don't talk about it anymore :)

If the subject is so important and supposedly creates an unbearable advantage in the eyes of some (everyone can have their own opinion), it would be time for the rules to say something about it and/or for the game settings to be as before and prevent a return from a long-term loan or an IS or federation match as long as the club displays 32 players (...assuming that 32 players is the limit decided by the game organizers). On the other hand, if Aymeric considers that it is not an advantage to have more than 32 players, the subject is closed. And if Aymeric considers that it is an advantage but that there must be tolerances, it would be time for the rules to say so and set said tolerances (number, duration, etc.) Now, if this subject (...partly a bug :) ) is there to allow some to vent their resentment, we might as well close the subject now and wait for what the administrators and organizers decide on the matter. And to silence the controversy created out of whole cloth by those who are making a storm in a teacup, I am selling the few players I have in excess, ..... and will not complain about those who will continue to have 33 players from tomorrow, I consider that this does not create any advantage for them.

Alexandre67310: Pour certains il faut absolument faire des posts et pour d’autre surtout on dit rien sur un cas qui dure depuis 3 mois. Mais si c’est normal et tout va bien allez tout le monde a 40 joueurs et on en parle plus :)

That would be the only one, we could understand except that the position is aimed at a person while many are over 32, in almost all the agreements, I found some.....

Alexandre67310: Pour certains il faut absolument faire des posts et pour d’autre surtout on dit rien sur un cas qui dure depuis 3 mois. Mais si c’est normal et tout va bien allez tout le monde a 40 joueurs et on en parle plus :)

Others are at 35 and we don't make a big deal about it.

Nitnelav: D'autres sont à 35 et on n'en fait pas tout un foin

Because it's always fun for part of the community to bash big deals and big clubs... But strangely enough when it's D2 deal clubs, D3 has 35 players and more, it doesn't bother them there 🤭😂🤔 Come on, I'll let you bicker among yourselves, peace! 😘

You really like looking for lice on a bald man's head. Are your weekends so sad that they cause you such big problems? If the problem has been recurring for so many seasons and nothing has been done, it's because it's not really a problem, because I dare to hope that Aymeric will have solved it... Come on, I'll let the haters hit Myforsans, I'm going to go have a little beer... 😂

What's the point of arguing about something that's not in the rules...

kiki-sainté: Par contre comparé un de mes membres qui a 33 joueurs alors que lui en avait 37 en début de saison et fait tout pour s en défaire, c est la tactique de la défense qui fait l attaque
Moi même j ai flirté avec les 32 joueurs ,j ai retardé mon mercato d ailleurs à cause de ça
Le mieux c est d être à 32 joueurs maxi comme tout le monde ça évite des histoires pour rien ,remet toi à niveau et oublions cette histoire et fais attention maintenant car je pense qu il n y aura pas d autres

No, it's just that if you yell and sue a guy because they say the limit is 32 players and no more, no problem. But from that moment on, it's all the same, that is to say, all clubs have more than 32 players, same treatment. Which is very far from being the case.

Demi-cerveau: #forum?topic=164593

Je tenais pas spécialement à rafraîchir les mémoires mais bon .... Voilà le sujet, datant de 3 mois, concernant la même problèmatique, le même club, et avec la réponse de Morten si certains veulent la relire. À l'époque il dépassait les 44 contrats, au moins sur ce point on a progressé. Et pour ceux qui auront l'esprit taquin, on peut voir qu'à l'époque le sujet était ouvert dans la partie "projet d'amélioration" et qu'il était s

What game are we playing? Football! In the rules of football it is not written that only one player is allowed to touch the ball with his hand? On the other hand I do not see any rule in football that prohibits having 37 players. If you are going to quibble, you might as well do it properly.

tbar: On joue à un jeu de quoi ?

De foot ! Dans le règlement du foot il n’est pas inscrit que un seul joueur a le droit de toucher le ballon à la main ?

Par contre je ne vois aucun règlement dans le foot qui interdit d’avoir 37 joueurs.

Quitte à chipoter autant le faire correctement

Chelsea pls seeing your messages...

I fired a level 1 member at the start of the nwo he had 43 players and when I pm him he told me well it's not limited to 50, after that it goes into excess, the return of loans is hard as I said a week at the start of the season to regularize otherwise a warning be careful your quota will exceed 32 players

kiki-sainté: J ai viré un membre 1 niveau 1 au début de la nwo il avait 43 joueurs et quand je l ai mp il m à dit ben c est pas limité à 50 ,après ça va dans l excès ,le retour des prêts dur dur comme j ai dit une semaine en début de saison pour se régularisé autrement un avertissement attention votre quota va dépasser les 32 joueurs

The funniest thing for me is to read that a former admin knowingly used this "loophole" to get a young person out of his CDF... But that he regularized it afterwards... phew. So we can do it but it must not last