Hello, I no longer see the movement of the Xg, in a match, in the Statistics tab under the possession line. Is this a change or a bug? Thank you Nicolas

napoleon10: bonjour,

je ne vois plus le mouvement des Xg, en match, dans l'onglet Statistique sous la ligne possession. est-ce un changement ou un Bug ?

je vous remercie

Nicolas

I was told that now it's only after the match

Only at the end of the game now :)

Personally, I think it's a good compromise to display it at the end of the match.

For me, it was a good indication to know if my tactics were good or not. For me, who am not a great VF tactician, it is a regression. It is an important clue that will handicap me even more... Too bad

napoleon10: pour moi, c'etait une bonne indication pour savoir si ma tactique était bonne ou pas.

pour moi, qui ne suis pas un fin tacticien de VF, c'est une régression. c'est un indice important qui va m'handicapé encore un peu plus...

Dommage

Having an opportunity tells you the same thing so in the end, it doesn't change much ;)

napoleon10: pour moi, c'etait une bonne indication pour savoir si ma tactique était bonne ou pas.

pour moi, qui ne suis pas un fin tacticien de VF, c'est une régression. c'est un indice important qui va m'handicapé encore un peu plus...

Dommage

The problem is that some people don’t know the difference between expected goal and actual goals. So they come to blow up the forum when something dosent go their way. It is a good compromise

Aguado: Avoir une occasion t’indique la même chose donc au final, ça ne change pas grand chose ;)

Not quite, a 0.12 xg opportunity does not provide the same information as a 0.40 xg opportunity.

From the moment it is displayed, whether it is 0.01 or 0.40, it can end up at the bottom

Good evening I liked having this indication...

Aguado: A partir du moment où elle s’affiche, qu’elle soit de 0.01 ou 0,40, elle peut finir au fond

She has a better chance of finishing at the bottom with 0.40 chances than 0.01 chances.

This is why the indicator was interesting.

I also discovered today that you can have an opportunity without XG (visible at least, I imagine that the precise number must be 0.001 but not displayed) #match?mid=5854877 PS: Aymeric, put the XG back, it's super useful to understand the dynamics of the match

El_Sombrero: J'ai d'ailleurs découvert aujourd'hui qu'on pouvait avoir une occasion sans XG (visible tout du moins, j'imagine que le chiffre précis doit être 0.001 mais non affiché)
#match?mid=5854877
PS : Aymeric, remets les XG, c'est hyper utile pour comprendre la dynamique de match

xG are the result of a probability. It doesn't give you the direction of the wind 😄. You can have 2 xp and lose 1-0 against an opponent who has 0.25. Xg should not influence your set-up if you think your system is good.

Indeed, your opponent's XG is not equal to 0, since the game was able to calculate score probabilities. In this case, for this match this value is 0.000217325.

aymeric45: En effet l'XG de ton adversaire n'est pas égal à 0, puisque le jeu a été en mesure de calculer des probabilités de score. En l'occurence, pour ce match cette valeur est de 0.000217325.

2 chances in 1,000,000, that's not much... ^^ Basically, it's just a long clearance from the goalkeeper that was on target.

aymeric45: En effet l'XG de ton adversaire n'est pas égal à 0, puisque le jeu a été en mesure de calculer des probabilités de score. En l'occurence, pour ce match cette valeur est de 0.000217325.

I don't want to restart the debate, I finally understood the logic of XGs that are unlocked on fouls, because the "opportunities" or situations that create xgs are too weak to be displayed by themselves. But the "opportunity" event can be displayed with 0xg (0.0001xg) and conversely events with xgs higher than that (0.1xg, 0.05xg etc.) are not high enough to be displayed and we need a foul to unlock? Well it must not be very clear in writing since it is not in my head, and I may not have understood the notion of "opportunities". And that's okay. #freeXG

I have also updated the score probability calculation system to take into account the special case of teams with 0 XG. It is simply a case where the probability of scoring 0 goals is 100%, not managed by the Poisson law.

So, will we have a return on this indicator soon?

Teddy: Les xG sont le résultat d'une probabilité. Ça donne pas le sens du vent 😄. Tu peux avoir 2 xp et perdre 1-0 contre un adversaire qui as 0.25. Les Xg doivent pas t'influencer dans ta mise en place si tu pense que ton système est bon.

The evolution of xG still allows us to understand if your tactic works or not. But if you feel like factually demonstrating the opposite, please do.

aymeric45: J'ai d'ailleurs mis à jour le sytème de calcul de probabilités de score pour prendre en compte le cas particulier des équipes à 0 XG. C'est simplement un cas ou la probabilité de marquer 0 but est de 100%, non géré par la loi de Poisson.

Hey All,
Rather than being a data nerd;
harmony,
potential miracles,
performance,
passion...
it's better to give hard work and the luck that comes with it a chance.
We should not forget the times when clubs owned by billionaires lost to neighborhood teams.
Have Fun!

What I don't understand about XGs is why some people struggle with them not respawning mid-match...? That's a good indicator, even more so for beginners.

El_Sombrero: L'évolution des xG permet tout de même de comprendre si ta tactique marche ou pas.
Mais si tu te sens de me démontrer factuellement le contraire, je t'en prie.

You can have a great position and not have any luck, that's all. You have a lot of matches or you dominate and you don't have any xg for all that. If you change your vision because of the xg, you risk simply hitting the wall. It's an indicator, but it doesn't mean you're going to win or score. It can be interesting or not relevant. After that, it's up to you to see the game as you wish.

Sikora: Ce que je ne comprends pas dans les XG, c'est pourquoi certains luttent pour qu'ils ne réapparaissent pas en cours de match...?
C'est un bon indicateur, encore plus pour les débutants.

Personally, I used to throw it away so that it would come back. Today, after several matches without it, I find it better without it because before, I used to give it xg for my match, even though there was no point.

Totally agree with Sikora, big interest in xG, excellent indicator in match

Luango: Totalement d'accord avec Sikora, gros intérêt pour les xG, excellent indicateur en match

Si pour toi il n'a pas d'intérêt, ne le regarde pas, ne t'en sers pas, joue comme tu le sens

Said the last winner of the Champions League...

Neither for nor against. Quite the opposite. A small detail that I would like, if we stay on this status quo: the display of xG at half-time of the match, on the commentary that signals half-time.

Blagoje Vidinic: Dixit le dernier vainqueur de la LDC...

Until the next final 😄

Cum hoc but not proper hoc

For me, there is no interest in Xg....When you have understood the broad outlines of MdM, you know what to do on the ground to make it work in your direction, only the luck factor cannot be anticipated.

I mean: no point in displaying the xG during the match...

Drosko: Pour moi aucun intérêt l'Xg....Quand tu as compris dans les grandes lignes le MdM, tu sais quoi faire sur le terrain pour que ça marche ds ton sens, seul le facteur chance ne pas être anticipé.

The same

So it doesn't change anything for you whether it is displayed or not.

Luango: Donc ça change rien pour vous qu'il soit affiché ou non

Yes, just that it was a piece of advice. Nothing bad.

For me in any case, it doesn't change anything at all... at least not in the latest display version. Previously, the update was done minute by minute, there it allowed to reverse a trend if it was not good for my team. Today, given the number of chances on both sides, the attack/defense ratio... I have a good idea of the xGs of the match.

I also liked the basic XG indicator that went up when you were well positioned on the field for example or when you had chances to get chances because it was still demonstrative of the course of the match for the majority of matches of course haha. Without it, we get used to it of course, but I find that with it it was better, it gave us an idea of what was happening fictitiously (well positioned, slightly dominant, undermined by the opposing team to such and such a degree). Because, let's not hide it, whoever can see if his team is in a good position to score behind a screen, let him give me the tip lol (and I can't talk about matches where you start with 400 more overall NG than the opponent).

There are tactical schemes in certain matches where you feel that you are better or worse in place....now between 2 roughly equal teams, roughly equal sectors, it is much more complicated.... But it is not the updating of the xG 5 or 6 times in the match that will give you the solution^^

This is precisely a trap to avoid, focusing on xG.

Drosko: Il y a des schémas tactiques dans certains matchs ou tu sens que t'es mieux ou moins bien en place....maintenant entre 2 équipes sensiblement égales, des secteurs sensiblement égaux, c'est bcp plus compliqués....
Mais ce n'est pas la mise a jour de la xG 5 ou 6 fois dans le match qui va te donner la solution^^

When you have an increase in Xg of 0.5 it is clearly a sign that you are well positioned and that you should not touch anything, especially if your team is more enduring than the opponent! It is still useful for a beginner who tends to modify styles and tactical options too often...

Nobody, I still prefer to have a good xG because the probability of scoring is higher^^

Sikora: Quand tu as une hausse de Xg de 0,5 c est clairement le signe que tu es bien en place et qu il ne faut rien toucher surtout si ton equipe est plus endurante que l adversaire !
C est quand meme utile pour un debutant qui a tendance a modifier les styles et options tactiques trop souvent...

We don't say that, we say that you can be very well placed and not have xg. It is an indicator of success, not strategic.

Sikora, if your xG has increased by 0.5, there is a technical reason behind it. Over a given period, you can have an increase of 0.5 for 1 opportunity or 3x0.2 xG on 3 opportunities.... Choice to make between 1 sparkling opportunity or a strategy that brings you more actions but less incisive. It all depends on your set-up. I grant you, for beginners, it can be useful.

Drosko: Il y a des schémas tactiques dans certains matchs ou tu sens que t'es mieux ou moins bien en place....maintenant entre 2 équipes sensiblement égales, des secteurs sensiblement égaux, c'est bcp plus compliqués....
Mais ce n'est pas la mise a jour de la xG 5 ou 6 fois dans le match qui va te donner la solution^^

#match?mid=5851179&stats&min=0 In this match the statistics displayed are almost equal, but finally from match to match it is different when we see the xg And also, at the time of the opponent's actions, no sector was dominated and that allows him to Action displayed

Akram, Your match is interesting, to study closely...you have a much higher conversion rate of your chances in xG. There are many parameters that I do not control in these xG: the captaincy, the affinity, the more frank attack that you have on 1 side, the physique, the style, the aggressiveness, etc, etc... And and and I remain convinced that there are scripts linked to the MdM...and that with each match it changes^^

Your xG remains classic for 7 occasions, that of your ADV abnormally low.

The reading of the match would have been different if the xg were displayed in real time. For the end of the match there is some moov, the question is did the xg increase during these changes or before?

Only you remain, overall, your xGs are consistent, those of your ADV are not. 0.55 xG for 6 chances, that doesn't fit...in the parameters of his team or his strategy, something is wrong. I already had 0.2 xG for 3 chances but I know why... After seeing them displayed, I can understand that it can help but already by watching his match, without having the xGs, I can say that I would have moved the lines^^

You can get 6 chances with o.55xg. However, they have little chance of hitting the mark.

In my opinion, a 0.20 xg chance has a 20% chance of scoring.

Akram, Looking closer your ADV is in high defense while attacking in the center... I'm not saying it can't pay off, but it's a risky bet^^