Morten34 |

15/07/2024

As reported here (Info from 07/15/2024): #forum?topic=160487 The regulations on player transfers have been profoundly modified. This topic is open to answer your questions. Please respect this topic. Any abuse or excess will be punished.


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Mide |

15/07/2024

Dosent help that the whole topic explaining the new transfers is in French. And it’s not translated.


michbou |

15/07/2024

little question , ?? When will this be effective??? because when are there sales in progress on the forum??


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Arnoldo09 |

15/07/2024

News from 07/15/2024 We inform you that the section entitled: “Rules on player transfers” has been significantly modified. We invite you to consult it quickly before making any new transfer for purchase or sale. This new regulation applies immediately.


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Morten34 |

15/07/2024

This is effective immediately and sales on the forum or at auction are not affected by this new regulation. Only transfers are concerned (on list or direct sale).


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michbou |

15/07/2024

This does not answer my question, because there are two sales on the forum in part transfer :), so if Morten could confirm that they are legal and in good shape that would avoid any dispute :p thank you Aroldo, I know how to read.


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Morten34 |

15/07/2024

However, I clearly answered your question: sales on the forum or at auction are not affected by this new regulation. Only transfers are concerned (on list or direct sale).


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Azby |

15/07/2024

Not to mention the system itself and how it was built: - It is not possible to zoom in on the tables in the manual on Android. It's really difficult to read. - This point follows from the previous one: is it planned to set up an indicator on the player's file, with his "average" value? For the moment it's OK for PC and spreadsheet fanatics, I'm one of them, but I'm not sure that the majority of us on VF appreciate that. :)


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grissais's man |

15/07/2024

Hello, the players who are already on the list which far exceed 50% of the new prices, will you contact them? Otherwise, I think the auctions will become attractive again


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Morten34 |

15/07/2024

It's impossible to contact everyone. I think the information will first spread via agreements. And at the beginning, we will demonstrate pedagogy. But hey, the delta is important between the minimum price and the maximum price of a player. A player worth 50M can sell for between 25M and 100M, which leaves a significant amount of attitude.


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Mide |

15/07/2024

The information can be added to the club news for everyone.


hazard14 |

15/07/2024

so if I understand correctly that we buy for example a young pot84 with 10 points ahead or with 10 points behind it will be 15m minimum? put this table together will make quite a mess I think...


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Morten34 |

15/07/2024

I agree, it is indeed a difficult situation to regulate. But a young person worth 30 million can be sold between 15 million and 60 million. So if he is ahead, he will sell in the high range and if he is behind, he will sell in the low range. If you have a youngster to sell in advance, I advise you to sell it in the transfer section on the forum or at auction.


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Mide |

15/07/2024

Wha will happen if someone puts the maximum value of 60M for example? No one else will be able to bid ?


Morten34 |

15/07/2024

Only Aymeric will be able to say if he can zoom in on Android or Apple. On the other hand, it is not possible to put the average value on a player's sheet.


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grissais's man |

15/07/2024

Okay thank you for your answer


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Morten34 |

15/07/2024

Little tip that I use personally: Take a screenshot of the table and then you can zoom the image without problem.


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Magpie |

15/07/2024

Wow. I'm amazed. In short, the idea is not to express a strong disagreement with the price control or not (I still can't believe it, Le Bon Coin had better behave!), but rather to find how to make all of this accessible to everyone. Previously, for each player, there was a line showing the player's average rating. Couldn't Aymeric code something similar? Even if it means taking inspiration from the data in the table (probably perfectible). And so, by clicking on this line, we would have access to a “minimum value / maximum value” calculated automatically. It would frankly be much more drinkable for the community. Because there, just reading the table is an effort (I find), applying it I don't even think about it. And there are the motivated VF players who will try, but I also think of those who play without taking the lead and who are far from wanting to spend time analyzing tables to sell players. If we could automate, it would be a win for everyone I think. Even if in the current state of things, it remains achievable, but hey, what a shock. For the fight against the transfer of money in addition? :o


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leakcim58 |

15/07/2024

why don't you do (aymeric) a block directly upstream by blocking the max price and the minimum price. It will save you a lot of hassle.


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Morten34 |

15/07/2024

Because it's not possible.


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Arnoldo09 |

15/07/2024

It will store severe XP 😂


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Morten34 |

15/07/2024

It is not possible to automate. On the other hand, checking the value of a player before buying or selling is not that complicated. We receive dozens of PMs every day asking us to rate players. I think it takes more time to write a PM than to quickly consult the table...


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Mide |

15/07/2024

Where can we read the new transfer rules please.

Morten34 |

15/07/2024

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Mide |

15/07/2024

I’m asking for auctions

Le vrai stéphanois |

15/07/2024

the rules do not take into account auctions it seems to me


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michbou |

15/07/2024

Exactly


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Morten34 |

15/07/2024

IMPORTANT NOTE: The rules mentioned above do not apply for players sold at auction.


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Le vrai stéphanois |

15/07/2024

small question: Table B is for players in regression ok... the price depends on the seasons the player has left and his ng ok, the thing c is that I have an 87 in regression but his retirement is not is not yet displayed? Do you know how I should let you know the average price?


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Mide |

15/07/2024

Okay. the new rule. i read it and i think it slightly takes away the business dynamic.
let me explain. lets say i am really tired of a player and i need him out og my team because i am trying to generate cash. i put him on transfer list and no one buys for a few days ( i am getting desperate) so i decode to reduce the price to 50% of his value. and still no one buys. then in my desperation, someone sends an offer (negotiated the price from transferlist) to 10% of his actual price. can i not accept ?

i mean its basic supply and demand. i think the range should be extended a little bit. let me lnow if you agree with me.

i have played a lot of business games and theres the restriction but not to 50% of the price. its a lot lower.

Morten34 |

15/07/2024

In this case you put your player up for auction…


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Mide |

15/07/2024

I love negotiating with people. Games like this have helped me improve my negotiation skills. There should be a restriction to stop cheating but not this hard. I feel it takes the dynamic of an economic model that is already in place. It's just an opinion


MenoFR |

15/07/2024

Goalkeeper same price as field player suddenly since there is no distinction made? A 22 year old pot 78 with 30 endu, 95 rating and a coefficient of 3 is table 3 so 12 million? No more than 24 and transfer at 6M allowed?


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Morten34 |

15/07/2024

It's a management game. Sometimes it will be more interesting to sell the player at auction.


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15/07/2024

the market changes depending on the day of the week, depending on Mdj reforms, depending on holidays, depending on the time of the season vf. The goal is to put in place safeguards that will allow us to sanction this or that person. I imagine that your decision has been made but you have to be able to take several aspects into account before putting things like this in place. Adding rules can clearly make the game too elitist, encouraging players to denounce can lead to a deterioration of relations between players. It's a shame to take a direction like this. We will adapt even if I don't particularly want to look at the table each time, but the shortcut risks causing more problems for 3 or 4 players who abuse the lack of rules.


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Lucas Joe Hart |

15/07/2024

How do you know all this knowing that it's been two months since your account was created? 🧐


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15/07/2024

You send me a private message and I will explain.


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Lucas Joe Hart |

15/07/2024

No, it’s okay, I have my idea 😌


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15/07/2024

so you confirm that you are just trying to show me with a question where only you have the answer... well let's move on to the substance of the subject....


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Mide |

15/07/2024

For example if you look at a players profile and click on that 3 month's ago stuff (at the club since) you can see the previous transfers of that player and the price players of a similar profile are being sold for. I Make an average and I use that to negotiate a fair price. I think that's enough instead of studying a table and calculating percentages so as to avoid a penalty. I'm just voicing an opinion please don't penalize me


sora02 |

15/07/2024

I didn't see the question, and if it has already been asked I apologize; What is the purpose of this market framing? What's more in a game where the economy is already extremely restricted.


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Morten34 |

15/07/2024

Because it is imposed on us.


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Rull43 |

15/07/2024

I don't understand. the goal is to regulate disguised donations? I imagine that the community reports and the work of the admins were already working without restricting the market as much? the right or wrong decision is made. Shame. I'm not going to check a table every time I have to organize a transfer, more than 350 in less than one referral, after for the moment I imagine being in the prices.


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sergent jeff |

15/07/2024

Thank you morten for this communication.


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Socrate |

15/07/2024

Ah if sales on the forum are not concerned, everything is fine then. Good luck to you 👍🏾


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Flo17132 |

15/07/2024

Do not make fun of it. What are we complaining about? The picture will not change anything, for many of you, of us. I don't see why these paintings are criticized. We can sell at double the value, and at less than 50% of this same value. From single... to quadruple. What is the idea of these complaints? No longer able to donate? That's good, it's prohibited. No longer being able to sell to “pigeons”. This is also good... Moreover, the rules do not change. We were already told that it was forbidden to sell at -50% of the value of a player. Some people had fun saying, we have no basic value. Well.. you have it now. Good work admins.


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Drezzo35 |

15/07/2024

and question for players playing styles? because the ng is distorted but for all that the player is not worth anything


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Socrate |

15/07/2024

Morent indicated that it is necessary to take the total sum of the characteristic points


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Drezzo35 |

15/07/2024

Thank you Socrates 👍


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Akram |

15/07/2024

Is endurance taken into account? we agree that the thieves change to an 80Ng without stamina, or a 160pts Style, or a 90Ng with 40 stamina? and also, versatility is not taken into account and for some who are in the federal selection?


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Morten34 |

15/07/2024

The delta is wide enough between the minimum price and the maximum price to take into account other parameters such as endurance or versatility. And no matter what, there is always the alternative of putting the player up for auction or selling him via the transfers section of the forum.


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junior |

15/07/2024

why not make it simpler by displaying the value of the players on this sheet according to all your criteria....


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Morten34 |

15/07/2024

If you continue to spoil the topic, the fines will soon rain down. So STOP, thank you.


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Morten34 |

15/07/2024

I repeat, a player who is worth, for example, 60 million can be sold between 30 million and 120 million, which leaves a very significant margin of maneuver...


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Mide |

15/07/2024

How is so the worth determined sorry.
I buy youngsters from desperate people for really cheap.

Mide |

15/07/2024

I appreciate you for taking time to answer our questions. The real work is determining the values of the players. Your job isn’t easy and I don’t want to make it any harder for you .

I think I understand. But can’t they game make an internal restriction ? Like not allow players to press below the limit ?

Azby |

15/07/2024

I think administrators apply the new rule, but don't have the authority to make in-depth changes, which are the developer's prerogative.


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Mide |

15/07/2024

That just makes it all the more complicated. More than 50% of players don’t know this rule is in place. So imagine the shock when they get a fine.
It took me two years to realize the French forum was where all the answers were


Alexandre67310 |

15/07/2024

S. Ciscar A player like this is not estimable with the table. There is endurance and in addition overtraining. Even with the margin of error we are very far from the mark, right?


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Flo17132 |

15/07/2024

Not sure. The estimate in the table is 110M. This means a possible sale at..... 220M. Not sure I can sell it for much more. Moreover, for this kind of player on the margin, an adjustment of the value is possible. On a case by case basis. This type of player does not correspond to all players either. Once again there is the law.... (for 99% of players) and the spirit of the law (for the remaining 1%) where the administrator can estimate a player.


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Morten34 |

15/07/2024

You can sell it for up to 220 million on list. If you think it's worth more, you put it up for auction...


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Alexandre67310 |

15/07/2024

Thank you for your response And for sale by PM? 220M?


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OncleOink |

15/07/2024

Be careful not to turn VF into a gas factory... It's already complicated for a novice to assimilate all the rules (or even make them understand) and accept them for established managers!


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Morten34 |

15/07/2024

220 M maximum on list or direct sale.


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Lulo |

15/07/2024

the prices are so volatile that I fear that in the medium term it will not be applicable. because we know that in September prices will rise because the holidays end, so the picture will potentially be false. who will take all this workload (I hope not. you our admins already underwater). I think the idea is good because it gives a clear framework but I think it's complicated to apply it on an ng with characteristic profiles, with endurance,... afterward the idea is good On the other hand


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MenoFR |

15/07/2024

You should put a line on the loan + OA as well, otherwise we see the scam coming on this formula and they will come and tell you that it is not written in the regulations.


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Fougch |

15/07/2024

What shocks me in table C is the difference in price between a 77/79 and 80/81. There is a ratio >2 anyway...


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Morten34 |

15/07/2024

This is the reality of today's market...


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Akram |

15/07/2024

based on what period?


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Morten34 |

15/07/2024

Recent period (approximately 20/30 days).


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zejl |

15/07/2024

Good evening I think that 90% of transfers are in the ranges but if there is a table showing the ranges when determining the price or negotiating I never know how much to offer it would be a great help, plus it will allow you to adjust ranges automatically if the market moves


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kakarot |

16/07/2024

I always buy my players with this 2x + or 2x range - so it doesn't change the game in any way. The market goes up and down according to the new reforms but it barely gives everyone an idea


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