As reported here (Info from 07/15/2024): #forum?topic=160487 The regulations on player transfers have been profoundly modified. This topic is open to answer your questions. Please respect this topic. Any abuse or excess will be punished.

little question , ?? When will this be effective??? because when are there sales in progress on the forum??

News from 07/15/2024 We inform you that the section entitled: “Rules on player transfers” has been significantly modified. We invite you to consult it quickly before making any new transfer for purchase or sale. This new regulation applies immediately.

This is effective immediately and sales on the forum or at auction are not affected by this new regulation. Only transfers are concerned (on list or direct sale).

This does not answer my question, because there are two sales on the forum in part transfer :), so if Morten could confirm that they are legal and in good shape that would avoid any dispute :p thank you Aroldo, I know how to read.

However, I clearly answered your question: sales on the forum or at auction are not affected by this new regulation. Only transfers are concerned (on list or direct sale).

Not to mention the system itself and how it was built: - It is not possible to zoom in on the tables in the manual on Android. It's really difficult to read. - This point follows from the previous one: is it planned to set up an indicator on the player's file, with his "average" value? For the moment it's OK for PC and spreadsheet fanatics, I'm one of them, but I'm not sure that the majority of us on VF appreciate that. :)

Hello, the players who are already on the list which far exceed 50% of the new prices, will you contact them? Otherwise, I think the auctions will become attractive again

so if I understand correctly that we buy for example a young pot84 with 10 points ahead or with 10 points behind it will be 15m minimum? put this table together will make quite a mess I think...

Only Aymeric will be able to say if he can zoom in on Android or Apple. On the other hand, it is not possible to put the average value on a player's sheet.

grissais's man: Bonjour , les joueurs qui sont déjà liste qui dépassent largement les 50 % des nouveaux tarifs , vous allez les contacter ?
Sinon , je pense que les enchères vont redevenir attractives

It's impossible to contact everyone. I think the information will first spread via agreements. And at the beginning, we will demonstrate pedagogy. But hey, the delta is important between the minimum price and the maximum price of a player. A player worth 50M can sell for between 25M and 100M, which leaves a significant amount of attitude.

Okay thank you for your answer

hazard14: donc si je comprend bien quon achéte par exmple un jeune pot84 avec 10 points d'avance ou avec 10 point de retard ça sera 15m minimum?
mettez en place ce tableau va foutre un sacré bordel je pense...

I agree, it is indeed a difficult situation to regulate. But a young person worth 30 million can be sold between 15 million and 60 million. So if he is ahead, he will sell in the high range and if he is behind, he will sell in the low range. If you have a youngster to sell in advance, I advise you to sell it in the transfer section on the forum or at auction.

grissais's man: D'accord merci pour ta réponse

Little tip that I use personally: Take a screenshot of the table and then you can zoom the image without problem.

Wow. I'm amazed. In short, the idea is not to express a strong disagreement with the price control or not (I still can't believe it, Le Bon Coin had better behave!), but rather to find how to make all of this accessible to everyone. Previously, for each player, there was a line showing the player's average rating. Couldn't Aymeric code something similar? Even if it means taking inspiration from the data in the table (probably perfectible). And so, by clicking on this line, we would have access to a “minimum value / maximum value” calculated automatically. It would frankly be much more drinkable for the community. Because there, just reading the table is an effort (I find), applying it I don't even think about it. And there are the motivated VF players who will try, but I also think of those who play without taking the lead and who are far from wanting to spend time analyzing tables to sell players. If we could automate, it would be a win for everyone I think. Even if in the current state of things, it remains achievable, but hey, what a shock. For the fight against the transfer of money in addition? :o

why don't you do (aymeric) a block directly upstream by blocking the max price and the minimum price. It will save you a lot of hassle.

Morten34: Comme signalé ici (Info du 15/07/2024): #forum?topic=160487
Le règlement sur les transferts de joueurs a été profondément modifié: #community?rules
Ce topic est ouvert pour répondre à vos questions.
Merci de respecter ce topic.
Tout abus ou débordement sera sanctionné.

Dosent help that the whole topic explaining the new transfers is in French. And it’s not translated.

It will store severe XP 😂

It is not possible to automate. On the other hand, checking the value of a player before buying or selling is not that complicated. We receive dozens of PMs every day asking us to rate players. I think it takes more time to write a PM than to quickly consult the table...

leakcim58: pourquoi ne faites vous pas (aymeric) un blocage directement en amont en bloquant le prix max et le prix minimum. ca vous éviterai bien des galères.

Because it's not possible.

Where can we read the new transfer rules please.

Mide: Where can we read the new transfer rules please.

#community?rules

Morten34: C'est impossible de contacter tout le monde. Je pense que l'info va d'abord se diffuser via les ententes. Et au début, on fera preuve de pédagogie.
Mais bon, le delta est important entre le prix minimum et le prix maximum d'un joueur. Un joueur qui vaut 50 M peut se vendre entre 25 M et 100 M, ce qui laisse une lattitude importante.

The information can be added to the club news for everyone.

Morten34: Je suis d'accord, c'est effectivement un cas de figure difficile à réglementer.
Mais un jeune qui vaut 30 M peut être vendu entre 15 M et 60 M. Donc s'il a de l'avance, il se vendra dans la fourchette haute et s'il a du retard, il se vendra dans la fourchette basse.
Si vous avez un jeune à vendre avec de l'avance, je vous conseille de le vendre dans la partie transfert sur le forum ou aux enchères.

Wha will happen if someone puts the maximum value of 60M for example? No one else will be able to bid ?

I’m asking for auctions

small question: Table B is for players in regression ok... the price depends on the seasons the player has left and his ng ok, the thing c is that I have an 87 in regression but his retirement is not is not yet displayed? Do you know how I should let you know the average price?

Mide: I’m asking for auctions

the rules do not take into account auctions it seems to me

Le vrai stéphanois: les regles ne prennent pas en compte les enchères il me semble

Exactly

Mide: I’m asking for auctions

IMPORTANT NOTE: The rules mentioned above do not apply for players sold at auction.

Okay. the new rule. i read it and i think it slightly takes away the business dynamic.
let me explain. lets say i am really tired of a player and i need him out og my team because i am trying to generate cash. i put him on transfer list and no one buys for a few days ( i am getting desperate) so i decode to reduce the price to 50% of his value. and still no one buys. then in my desperation, someone sends an offer (negotiated the price from transferlist) to 10% of his actual price. can i not accept ?

i mean its basic supply and demand. i think the range should be extended a little bit. let me lnow if you agree with me.

i have played a lot of business games and theres the restriction but not to 50% of the price. its a lot lower.

Goalkeeper same price as field player suddenly since there is no distinction made? A 22 year old pot 78 with 30 endu, 95 rating and a coefficient of 3 is table 3 so 12 million? No more than 24 and transfer at 6M allowed?

the market changes depending on the day of the week, depending on Mdj reforms, depending on holidays, depending on the time of the season vf. The goal is to put in place safeguards that will allow us to sanction this or that person. I imagine that your decision has been made but you have to be able to take several aspects into account before putting things like this in place. Adding rules can clearly make the game too elitist, encouraging players to denounce can lead to a deterioration of relations between players. It's a shame to take a direction like this. We will adapt even if I don't particularly want to look at the table each time, but the shortcut risks causing more problems for 3 or 4 players who abuse the lack of rules.

I didn't see the question, and if it has already been asked I apologize; What is the purpose of this market framing? What's more in a game where the economy is already extremely restricted.

Mide: Okay. the new rule. i read it and i think it slightly takes away the business dynamic.
let me explain. lets say i am really tired of a player and i need him out og my team because i am trying to generate cash. i put him on transfer list and no one buys for a few days ( i am getting desperate) so i decode to reduce the price to 50% of his value. and still no one buys. then in my desperation, someone sends an offer (negotiated the price from transferlist) to 10% of his actual price. can i not ac

In this case you put your player up for auction…

MenoFR: Gardien même prix que joueur de champs ducoup vu qu'il n'y a aucune distinction de faite ?
Un 22 ans pot 78 avec 30 endu, 95 de note et un coeff à 3 c'est tableau 3 donc 12 millions ? Pas plus de 24 et transfert à 6M autorisé?

It's a management game. Sometimes it will be more interesting to sell the player at auction.

sora02: Je n'ai pas vu la question, et si elle a déjà été posée je m'en excuse ;

Quel est le but de ce cadrage de marché? Qui plus est dans un jeu ou l'économie est déjà extrêmement bridé.

Because it is imposed on us.

I don't understand. the goal is to regulate disguised donations? I imagine that the community reports and the work of the admins were already working without restricting the market as much? the right or wrong decision is made. Shame. I'm not going to check a table every time I have to organize a transfer, more than 350 in less than one referral, after for the moment I imagine being in the prices.

Thank you morten for this communication.

Ah if sales on the forum are not concerned, everything is fine then. Good luck to you 👍🏾

Do not make fun of it. What are we complaining about? The picture will not change anything, for many of you, of us. I don't see why these paintings are criticized. We can sell at double the value, and at less than 50% of this same value. From single... to quadruple. What is the idea of these complaints? No longer able to donate? That's good, it's prohibited. No longer being able to sell to “pigeons”. This is also good... Moreover, the rules do not change. We were already told that it was forbidden to sell at -50% of the value of a player. Some people had fun saying, we have no basic value. Well.. you have it now. Good work admins.

and question for players playing styles? because the ng is distorted but for all that the player is not worth anything

Drezzo35: et question pour les joueurs styles de jeu ?
parce que la ng est faussé mais pour autant le joueur ne vaut pas rien

Morent indicated that it is necessary to take the total sum of the characteristic points

Thank you Socrates 👍

Is endurance taken into account? we agree that the thieves change to an 80Ng without stamina, or a 160pts Style, or a 90Ng with 40 stamina? and also, versatility is not taken into account and for some who are in the federal selection?

why not make it simpler by displaying the value of the players on this sheet according to all your criteria....

Teddy: le marché change en fonction du jour de la semaine, en fonction des réformes du Mdj, en fonction des vacances, en fonction de la période de la saison vf. Le but est de mettre des garde-fou qui permettront de pouvoir sanctionner un tel ou un tel.
J'imagine que votre decision est prise mais il faut pouvoir prendre en compte plusieurs aspects avant de mettre des choses comme celle ci en place.
L'ajout de règle peut clairement rendre le jeu trop élitiste, encourager les joueurs à la délatio

How do you know all this knowing that it's been two months since your account was created? 🧐

Akram: es ce que l'endurance est prise en compte ?
on.est d'accord que les voleurs changent pour un 80Ng sans endurance, ou un 160pts Style , ou un 90Ng avec 40 endurance ?
et aussi , La polyvalence n'est pas peise en compte et pour certains qui sont en sélection fédéral ?

The delta is wide enough between the minimum price and the maximum price to take into account other parameters such as endurance or versatility. And no matter what, there is always the alternative of putting the player up for auction or selling him via the transfers section of the forum.

Lucas Joe Hart: Comment sais tu tout cela en sachant que ça fait deux mois que ton compte est créé ? 🧐

You send me a private message and I will explain.

Teddy: tu m'envoi un message privé et je t explique.

No, it’s okay, I have my idea 😌

Lucas Joe Hart: Non c’est bon j’ai mon idée 😌

so you confirm that you are just trying to show me with a question where only you have the answer... well let's move on to the substance of the subject....