Tchoori |
2 dias atrásUne des plus belles finale du jeu qui se définit en un bête match de ping-pong définit par les changements coups sur coups. Et en 1h30 de perdu surtout… on peut pas montrer ce dont on est capable actuellement. C’est nécessaire de constater que le mode de jeu actuel n’est pas bon du tout pour l’avenir du jeu !
Il faut pouvoir accepter que les changements tactiques furtifs du jeu font parti de l’ADN de Virtuafoot.
Footland ca n’a jamais fonctionné et c’est terminé aymeric
Pauul76 |
2 dias atrásYet another match that was a real slog to play, with nothing to look forward to apart from half-time or the substitutions. There’s only one viable formation now: a 3-4-3. All you have to do is play a bit defensively, and you end up with a right mess like tonight…
A toss-up, in a nutshell!
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Galywat |
2 dias atrásLet’s just say that, if we’re to stick with this system, we need to completely rethink the midfield setup, which is based on levels of imbalance that are no longer feasible in this type of match today. It’s already virtually impossible to make a difference without three forwards, and even with that, it’s not possible to make a difference. It’s not a question of prioritising attack at the expense of defence, as it’s easy to defend these days.
Typically, good luck to anyone who has to face a PHJ and/or a 5-5-0 with a squad of the same standard.
The other solution is to bring back fixed time slots of a few minutes, even if it means reintroducing a penalty for changing tactics
and hiding the opposition’s moves. It’s impossible to make a difference in a match like this with the current settings. They’re decided by the roll of the dice.
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Skyz |
2 dias atrásFor my matches yesterday and today, I decided to lock the match to keep track of the scores.
Some thrilling half-times.
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Tchoori |
2 dias atrásYou’re way off the mark, Aymeric, with your news story – it’s completely out of touch with the realities of the game. You need to listen to us, because everyone’s going to leave if you don’t.
Your manager kept everyone happy last season.
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Blagoje Vidinic |
37 horas atrásAre you sure about what you’re saying in your last sentence? 🤪
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OMstar83 |
37 horas atrásJe me disais pareil. Les plaintes sur le mdm sont nombreuses depuis tant d’années ^^
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Tchoori |
37 horas atrásWe’ll see… the problem with traditional mirrored 3-4-3 formations will crop up, and the style system won’t matter much without the option to switch from a classic 3-4-3 with wide play to a full-on counter-attacking approach to catch the opposition off guard, for example…
There are things that aren’t right, and every change is being exploited – including, most recently, the substitution system that updates your instructions in real time.
There’s a sense of weariness that will only grow over time, and the current mode won’t attract any new players anyway
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Galywat |
36 horas atrásNo, clearly there are always, and there always will be, complaints, often linked to a lack of understanding of MDM. In this case, however, I think the complaints are a bit different.
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Radio |
36 horas atrásWhether or not the complaints differ, the common thread is that there are always complaints. It’s hard to please everyone, but some people give the impression of being perpetually dissatisfied, and perhaps that is what we should focus on.
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Nims57 |
36 horas atrásThere is, however, a distinction between complaints about match results due to the MDM and complaints about the gaming experience, which (for many) is becoming tedious with the current MDM
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Galywat |
36 horas atrásI don’t agree; the very nature of the complaint shows that the problem is not the same at all. There are loads of us who weren’t dissatisfied in the past but have been since the mid-season changes.
Basically, those who were complaining before – whether out of a lack of understanding or frustration – are still complaining (and will no doubt always complain, although it seems to me that their complaints have been fewer over the last season or two, but I may be getting ahead of myself).
Now you’ve got a different sort of complaint, which broadly centres on the lack of tactical options and variety in MDM, and which is based on fact. It may only affect 10–15 per cent of matches, but logically, it’s for these matches that we play in VF; we don’t play to face AFKs or AI, but to take on the best players or those who can hold their own.
It’s difficult to put into words, as I feel like I’m coming across as elitist by writing this, even though that’s neither my intention nor my aim. If I had to sum it up, the current complaints are about the tactical restrictions – or even stagnation – of the MDM, something that wasn’t an issue at all last season. And it’s not really a matter of opinion; it’s a fact. Whereas complaints about frustration or a lack of understanding depend on the criteria we apply to success, which are unique to each individual.
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lorenzo861 |
34 horas atrásMost complaints were very often linked to frustration with the results, or “I’m getting past my opponent here but nothing happens”. In short, something factual and immediate, but which ultimately blew over quite quickly. But the pleasure of facing off against an opponent was always there, with the aim of catching them off guard to create something, and so on…
Now, not even that is there! It’s just deadly boring! I’m not going to say it’s the worst version in the game’s history, but it’s not far off… No element of surprise, no magical breakthrough that sets something in motion. You wait 10 minutes for the tactical adjustment to take effect. Etc., etc… it’s just awful – I hardly watch the matches at all now. And thank goodness most opponents go AFK too, otherwise it’d be nothing but 0–0 draws.
In my league, I should never have had 14 wins. I had two decent opponents who used to play their matches… they’ve gone AFK (those long toilet breaks that mean you don’t miss a thing…). Consequently, I’m becoming more and more like that too…
It’s utterly disheartening.
The MDM will always be open to debate regarding the raw results and their fairness for the ‘victims’. But the only appeal it ever had – which, I think, everyone appreciated on the whole – namely its playability, such as the updates every minute, has vanished.
Right now, I think there are others like me who are resisting uninstalling it, in the hope that this change (not an improvement) will be reversed. The number of years we’ve spent here is proof of this resistance.
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Radio |
32 horas atrásMerci de confirmer que, dans les deux cas, c'est toujours autour du MDM que les plaintes se focalisent. Mais bon, apparemment c'est tabou d'aborder le sujet car on entend toujours en réponse le "risque" de départ, quand ce n'est pas une menace....
Je rappelle que ce MDM, 100% des joueurs doivent composer avec. Pourtant, et dans l'Histoire du jeu, beaucoup ne s'en plaignent pas (et pas que ces vulgaires AFK ou autres managers de seconde zone). Il serait bon à mon sens que chacun se questionne sur sa capacité à s'adapter et à ressentir du plaisir ou non avec cette nouvelle mouture, mais que par décence on évite les sophismes du type: différent > donc moins bien > donc pas content > donc je menace de partir > mais au final je reste quand même.
Un peu de courage !
Si vous n'aimez plus votre femme parce qu'elle a pris 20 kilos après avoir donné deux beaux enfants, c'est pas votre femme qu'il faut blâmer. Tout change, et parfois on fait avec parce que malgré tout ça vaut le coup.
Marcus Aurelius |
31 horas atrásIt depends – has the gameplay changed with your wife? Because those extra 20 kilos aren’t about gameplay, they’re about aesthetics. Let’s try to avoid those dodgy comparisons.
It’s all about the MDM in both cases – you’re stating the obvious; of course it’s all about the MDM in both cases, since we’re talking about matches in both instances.
Now, above, they’ve explained to you the difference between complaining about a result and pointing out a glaring lack of interest in the gameplay. I’d urge you to read them again. I’d also urge you to re-read Galy’s numerous posts on the subject elsewhere, as he’s not at all the sort to question the MDM at the slightest unfavourable result – quite the opposite, in fact.
You could also compare it (since you seem to rather like doing so) to the slightly silly threads about ‘MDM carrots’ and realise that it’s completely different. Show a bit of courage, for goodness’ sake.
That said, you’re free to carry on with this usual stance of going against the grain whilst dishing out a moral lesson or two and a witty remark or two; OK, it’s 100 per cent trolling, but it’s a shame, because people stop taking you seriously very quickly.
And then there’s the fallacy – everyone knows it comes from Sophie.
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Radio |
30 horas atrásJe pense que, pour revenir sur le parallèle un peu criard certes, les 20 kilos (le gameplay ne vous en déplaise et non l'esthétique) ont l'importance qu'on leur accorde: certains s'y accommodent malgré des sensations différentes, y trouvent même du charme, d'autres en font la raison d'une rupture par rapport au passé (el famoso "cétait mieux avant"), alors que c'est le regard que l'on porte dessus qui prime.
En gros, et selon moi, c'est pas le gameplay qui vous repousse, c'est qu'il souffre de la comparaison d'avec une époque révolue.
J'ai lu avec attention l'ensemble des points de vue concernant les évolutions du mdm et elles sont intelligibles et bien exprimées, je n'ai donc pas besoin de les relire puisqu'elles sont bien assimilées dans mon cerveau de "troll" (quand on veut piquer son chien, on dit qu'il a la rage n'est-ce pas?), et je n'ai pas le souvenir d'avoir un jour dit "vous avez tort de penser ça" lorsqu'il s'agit de vos griefs contre le nouveau mdm. Je comprends vos motivations et vos arguments.
En revanche je me souviens très bien avoir apporté mon opinion, à contre-courant certes (est-ce un crime?) mais jamais dans le but de faire l'intéressant ou d'étaler ma palette de platitudes, et plutôt dans le but de proposer une voie différente, un axe de réflexion peu entendu (et accepté) dans un débat largement en faveur d'un retour en arrière. J'ai probablement tort, et je vous remercie de me le rappeler si régulièrement, mais cela reste néanmoins partie du processus démocratique.
Est-il encore possible de le faire sans subir les foudres de la majorité ? Si vous préférez un raisonnement plus consensuel, moins téméraire, vous êtes libres de le faire. Mais tenter de réduire mes interventions à du trolling c'est assez cocasse. M'enfin, chacun son opinion. N'oubliez pas enfin que je like beaucoup d'interventions sur le sujet, parfois opposées à mon opinion, preuve que je ne tire pas la couverture vers moi ou cherche à semer la zizanie.
C'est le raisonnement et l'impartialité qui m'intéressent au-delà des turpitudes de chacun.
Marcus Aurelius |
30 horas atrásVictimisation; the logical next step 😉
Otherwise, those extra 20 kilos are all about aesthetics. Want a change in gameplay on this front? Your wife changes gender and gets a penis transplant – now that, mate, is a change in gameplay, not just a change in trouser size.
Does ‘turpitude’ come from ‘Turpin’? Is that right?
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k3vin59218 |
30 horas atrásRadio |
24 horas atrásPas de victimisation mais un droit de réponse aux accusations et autres quolibets. Navré que tu te sentes personnellement attaqué comme tes remarques un peu condescendantes laissent supposer.
Et concernant la parabole, je pensais être assez précis sur ce que j'entends par là, mais vraisemblablement le romain ne comprend que le latin...
Marc Aurèle, c'est pas celui qui prônait l'"Amor Fati", le fait qu'il soit inutile de résister ou de s'attrister face à ce qui est inévitable ? De devoir accepter voire aimer ce qui arrive ? Applique donc ça au mdm, tu feras au moins honneur à ton pseudo.
Et concernant ton histoire de pénis turgescent et de gameplay, je te laisse à tes fantasmes.
(J'ai dit turgescent pour que tu nous régales d'un bon gros "ça vient de Turquie?", on ne s'en laissera jamais)
Luis17 |
24 horas atrást’adores te faire éteindre même en dehors des message privés toi décidément peu apprécié sur ce jeu, tu dois aimer ça ☺️
Marcus Aurelius |
16 horas atrásFor a start, a satellite dish has nothing to do with it; it’s just used to pick up signals. It’s completely unrelated.
And no, ‘turgescent’ doesn’t come from Turkey; it’s the formerly bald people who come from Turkey. The clue is the suffix ‘escent’; which indicates a transformation, a transition into something else. So ‘turgescent’ refers to those who have applied for Turkish citizenship.
And leave Marcus Aurelius in peace; he’s already done enough fighting against the trolls who threatened the empire’s borders. Let him rest.
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Radio |
13 horas atrásAh, l'humour comme moyen de détourner le sujet. Classique.
Radio |
13 horas atrásC'est la différence entre celui qui ne cherche pas à être populaire, et celui qu'on invite aux diners de cons.
Je consulte nos MP quand j'ai un coup de blues, ça me permet de relativiser mes problèmes 👍🏼
Luis17 |
13 horas atrásça reste tout aussi violent qu’ici ! pauvre de toi le manager détesté t’es pas un politique pourtant, peut être un nouveau candidat à la présidentielle sur le jeu messieurs on tient encore un champion ici !
est ce que tu rejoins les blocus ? pour savoir de quelle partie tu es peut être.
Radio |
13 horas atrásTu sais, venir m'attaquer et me provoquer sans cesse ne réglera pas tes problèmes.
C'est toi qui a traité la D1 Côte d'Azur de cirque quand les résultats n'allaient pas dans ton sens. C'est toi qui a toujours fait preuve de mauvaise foi dans tes interviews d'après-match, c'est toi qui considère que tu es le meilleur manager du championnat depuis 3 saisons.
Mon seul malheur aura été de te faire remarquer que si ce championnat est un cirque, tu en es le clown. Et puis, c'est pas de ma faute si tu finis derrière moi 3 saisons d'affilée, ni celle du mdm, ni celle de la chance. Alors tu peux prétendre ce que tu veux, nos échanges en MP montrent bien que tu es incapable de faire preuve d'un minimum de jugement rationnel.
Tu peux continuer à jouer les bully de bac à sable avec moi, mais cela ne fait que confirmer que tu as "le seum intergalactique" depuis plusieurs mois à mon égard pour des raisons purement égoïstes et, franchement, puériles.
En plus on dévie du sujet. Envoie-moi plutôt tes "encouragements" en MP, je n'ai pas encore trouvé le moyen de te bloquer alors profite !
Luis17 |
13 horas atrásTROP LONG ENNUYANT
Demi-cerveau |
13 horas atrásYour distasteful comments on current politics and social issues have no place here. It’s a disgrace to this game to read remarks like yours. So keep your thoughts on the world around you for the local betting shop, seriously.
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Luis17 |
13 horas atrásBlagoje Vidinic |
12 horas atrás@Marcus, Luis17 and radio: either you stop behaving like children, or I’ll fine each of you.
This is your only warning before action is taken.
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Chelios |
33 horas atrásIn our group, I’ve rarely seen so many messages about stopping the game; if it weren’t for the strength of our bonds and the connection that unites us, there would have been a few breaks… And if the game stays as it is, many – perhaps even most – will stop playing…
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dudziak |
31 horas atrásWhat a blunder – it’s as if nobody’s giving their opinion or sharing their feelings any more; the head of VF has spoken.
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Lebaygue |
30 horas atrásBlagoje, once you’ve finished your childish antics under the guise of a pointless smiley, this is a serious matter, VF – you still haven’t got it... On that note, I’m closing this thread!!!!!
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aloisio |
28 horas atrásEven though we won the title with the CP, I think we’re pretty much on the same page as this vision
Beyond what’s already been said, the worst thing is that I think this will widen the gap between the ‘big’ teams and the ‘mid-table’ ones. If you’ve got a dominant team, you don’t even need to worry about a tactical clutch anymore: it’s predictable.
So it spoils the fun for the weaker players.
And when there are two active opponents, it spoils the fun for everyone, whether they’re strong or not.
AFK players, weaker players, stronger players: everyone is at a disadvantage with this MDM. Who on earth does it actually benefit?
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