Maguatte |
18 dias atrásHow on earth am I losing 2–0 when I’m dominating?

What sort of joke is this now?
What’s the problem? Is there something I’m missing?
#match?mid=6958969&stats
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Maguatte |
18 dias atráshazard14 |
18 dias atrásHe outperforms you three times as much in central defence at home as you do in central attack – I reckon that’s where it comes from, as the mdm experts will tell you
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Maguatte |
18 dias atrásRadio |
18 dias atrásJust a quick question: how aggressive are you being? There have been loads of fouls in this match so far...
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Maguatte |
18 dias atrás2 more replies
Radio |
18 dias atrásWhy don't you try switching back to normal to see if it makes a difference?
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Nicularo |
18 dias atrásYou’re entitled to feel frustrated, but please find another way to let it out – this will be your one and only warning.
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Ragen |
18 dias atrásAnd anyway, as I always say, why is it that when I’m in ‘normal’ mode, I’m more likely to get booked?
I switch to ‘normal’ mode and get booked; I switch to ‘aggressive’ or even ‘very aggressive’ mode, and the risk is much lower.
The thing is, in that case, it doesn’t make any sense at all.
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Radio |
18 dias atrásSeveral factors must be taken into account when awarding fouls and cards; aggression alone is not a sufficient indicator.
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Ragen |
18 dias atrásSo tell me,
what are the other indicators?
That way I’ll be a bit smarter from now on
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Radio |
18 dias atrásIt’s up to you to find out; I’m just trying to put your reasoning into perspective.
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Ragen |
18 dias atrásThat’s easy for you to say
Oh well, never mind
If anyone knows, just let me know
No need to be shy
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Radio |
18 dias atrásI find you a bit confrontational; it doesn’t really make me want to share.
Have a lovely day anyway!
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T-800 |
18 dias atrásFriendly matches allow you to try out different styles, strategies and tactics, which can be enjoyed depending on the manager using them.
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Ragen |
18 dias atrásIt’s precisely because I play and test things out that I’ve come to realise I’m far more likely to get a red card when playing in ‘Normal’ mode than in other modes.
What I can’t figure out, though, is why. And friendly matches don’t tell me that. That’s the problem.
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T-800 |
18 dias atrásActually, it makes sense when you think about it in football terms: if you play aggressively, you get fewer cards
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Ragen |
18 dias atrásFidel BBTG |
18 dias atrásShhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh and just put up with it hhhhhhhhh
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mick3829 |
11 dias atrásIl ne faut pas chercher yen a qui comprennent et moi je fais partie de ceux qui ne trouve pas le secret du mdm
sora02 |
11 dias atrásBeaucoup de matchs ultra particuliers aujourd’hui oui. Peut être lié aux bugs récents.
RMP-Val |
9 dias atrásEven today, a lot of league matches still seem a bit odd to me.
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k3vin59218 |
9 dias atrásPhiPhi |
9 dias atrásHow is it possible to have such a low xG (0.22)? XD It’s just...
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mick3829 |
11 dias atrásMaybe it’s just me, but I really don’t understand it at all. Maybe it’s just that I don’t know what I’m talking about, but I honestly find the match completely illogical – or maybe I’m just rubbish; I don’t know. For me, there’s been a big problem with this for quite some time now.
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RMP-Val |
9 dias atrásTo achieve 2.47xG whilst having just 15–20 per cent possession throughout the match is unprecedented. But it must be a coincidence.
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Galywat |
9 dias atrásIt’s quite unusual – a bit like quite a few of the matches over the last few days. It might be a statistical anomaly, but it’s still surprising!
Unfortunately, it’s difficult to confirm or rule out anything based on the information we have.
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Uzzego27 |
9 dias atrás#match?mid=6928815 It was a peculiar match because, looking at the xG figures from the outside, you might think it was evenly matched, whereas my opponent was AFK and I pounded the centre for 65 minutes
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Ced90 |
9 dias atrásWhen you see matches like this one from midday: #match?mid=6921690
There’s clearly something wrong at the moment – having 0.11 xG whilst dominating the opposition for half the match is odd
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seblelionnais |
9 dias atrás
I’ve conceded a goal there. I’ve had no chances at all – I don’t get it.
Is the aim to have the worst possible squad so you can create chances?
I nearly blew a friendly by giving away 250 in stats, with gaping holes in midfield and defence, but we equalised in the 89th minute.
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Kirikou |
9 dias atrásT-800 |
9 dias atrásDemi-cerveau |
9 dias atrásFour league matches, four wins. Actually, that’s not normal – it’s not like me at all!
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T-800 |
9 dias atrásYes, there are loads like that
It’s not really a bug at this stage
Is the AI being used for the MDM?
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Galywat |
9 dias atrásSome of the matches over the last few days seem quite ‘strange’, whilst others do not at all – to a rather surprising extent.
It’s hard to draw any conclusions just yet; we’ll have to see if the trend continues.
Could it be linked to the various updates? It seems to me, though, that these updates are more to do with the displays – but who knows? Or perhaps they’re just simple coincidences. That can happen.
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PhiPhi |
9 dias atrás
I’m not taking anything away from my opponent’s victory (thank goodness I didn’t lose 3–0, mind you). But I conceded two goals in five minutes right from the start. I created my first chance in the 67th minute playing a 4-5-1! Even though I’d been playing a 3-4-3 / 3-5-2 for the rest of the match… The stats on my screen reflect the vast majority of the match. Apart from when I stopped ‘managing’ the match, I conceded two goals down the left flank in three minutes towards the end, before conceding a fourth right at the final whistle (I might have overused high pressing there, I’ll admit, but still).
So yes, it’s odd; I hope it gets sorted out because otherwise there’s no point in fiddling about with tactics if it’s better just to let the game run its course to win!
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sora02 |
9 dias atrásWe’d noticed some changes at the start of the season, with huge slumps lasting several tens of minutes for no apparent reason, and, above all, rather poor responsiveness from the MDM. In other words, completely botched spot actions weren’t necessarily penalised. This was particularly frustrating in closely contested matches, where it sometimes takes 3–4 plays to put the opposition in a very unfavourable position.
But what’s been happening over the last two days is unprecedented, to say the least.
The peculiar thing is that you get the sense it’s not every match where you see things that are completely at odds with the past.
But when it is inconsistent, there’s no pretending otherwise. Matches with 0.0X XG in extremely open formations.
The basic principle, as I see it – and one that’s pretty much universal – is when someone blocks the flanks in defence and then plays as a ‘wing attacker’.
If that player gets beaten down the middle, without gaining any ground against the opposition’s defence, we’ll say, “Wow, massive danger”.

This formation lasted 25 minutes.
The result of this formation: 0 xG vs 0.13 for Demi
I’m not judging the result, but this formation is the ABCs of VF; it’s supposed to be punishing.
Failing to score is one thing;
not creating any chances for 1, 2, 3 or 5 minutes – that happens.
But 25 minutes of this and seeing your opponent rewarded – for me, that’s a real first.
Something isn’t quite right.
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Galywat |
9 dias atrásAs far as xG is concerned, at any rate – I’ve checked, as I was also in doubt about this – there don’t seem to be any changes; broadly speaking, the matches over the last few days don’t seem to be producing any lower xG figures.

If there has been any change (though it’s possible there hasn’t), it’s further upstream.
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sora02 |
9 dias atrásThere must have been some kind of change; it’s not just a cognitive bias. Firstly, because several of us felt it – and not just managers, who are usually the first to complain at the top of their voices – but that’s not the only reason.
Your feedback is interesting and comes as something of a surprise to me. Ced90 mentioned in another thread a completely out-of-the-blue chance down the middle. We’d already seen this when the number of chances/goals was doubled in a recent news update. The second doubled chance was regularly down the middle and recorded as 0 XG.
But for the past two days, we’ve been seeing moves and goals down the middle with a maximum XG rate – without being doubled – involving players who literally have a 10 per cent attack ratio against the opposition’s central defence. I won’t even mention the midfield ratios.
It is therefore highly likely that the number of XG has remained the same but that the logic behind it has changed completely.
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Galywat |
9 dias atrásI haven’t got round to checking the attack ratios yet. That’s actually the last thing we can check. As for the ratios in the middle, we’ll have to wait and see; we don’t have enough samples to carry out an analysis :/
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Ced90 |
9 dias atrásI can confirm this: for example, in my league match yesterday, I scored a goal with the stats breakdown shown below (I didn’t change anything before the 65th minute).
Scoring in itself isn’t the problem, even if it was supposed to be very, very, very, very unlikely.
The issue here is that in the data export, it recorded the maximum xG
I’ve checked several other similar cases and the result is the same.

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PhiPhi |
9 dias atrásI’d like to know how you get that sort of statistics. I’d like to do the same to analyse my matches and improve my tactical approach. Does it come from the export option?
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aladin59 |
9 dias atrásAs for my league match, there were no chances at all for either side – something I’ve never seen before – and yet the xG was very low, even though I completely dominated the game. I just can’t make sense of it.
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gauthier80 |
9 dias atrásI’m doing my bit… My opponent only played for the last 15 minutes… the rest of the time he was AFK, and yet nothing came of it…
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RMP-Val |
9 dias atrásBefore Monday’s update, there was a way to view xG figures during a match following a foul, chance or goal using the browser’s ‘Inspect’ tool:
Here we can see the xG figures for Team 1 in match ID 6940763 at the time of the chance at 60’23
Since Monday’s update, this xG line no longer appears in the browser (for the same chance)
Is this a bug that coincides with the chance generator behaving strangely? Or is it a deliberate removal by Aymeric that doesn’t affect the MDM?
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seblelionnais |
9 dias atrásIs it possible to have shares that are so close together?
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MrHoman |
9 dias atrásTwo goals were scored in 4 seconds in a match – now that’s been recorded, so it must be possible
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Tchoori |
9 dias atrásAre we going to decide the cup finals and semi-finals by tossing a coin tonight? 😟
A problem with xG generation (which is completely random in the cases reported) has nothing to do with the result being rigged – something we regularly receive complaints about…
We’ve been tracking our matches since the start of the season to get to this point, and the tactical optimisation on the pitch is no longer reflected at all in the xG figures, on the eve of these important matches…
Losing a match with 3 xG against 0.5 xG is just bad luck
The xG problem is a bug in the mdm
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Ced90 |
9 dias atrásI can confirm this: for example, in my league match yesterday, I scored a goal with the stats breakdown shown below (I didn’t change anything until the 65th minute).
Scoring in itself isn’t the problem, even if it was supposed to be very, very, very, very unlikely.
The issue here is that in the data export, it recorded the maximum xG
I’ve checked several other similar cases and the result is the same.

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potardinho |
9 dias atrásIt’s a real shame to sacrifice the game’s core mechanics – which have become incomprehensible and demotivating – in favour of graphical improvements and/or fiddling about with the in-game shop.
The game is dying, and Aymeric isn’t listening to the objective and realistic coaches – please do something.
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Tazz26 |
9 dias atrásI’m relieved to see that other members are experiencing the same change in the MDM’s behaviour. I’ve only noticed it for the past week, but it’s been enough to leave me completely confused and make me question my interest in the game. Well, there you go.
Let’s hope it changes.
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Fanou |
9 dias atráslecastor |
9 dias atrásEver since the bugs, I’ve been noticing loads of strange things with MDM as well. Like yesterday – zero chances, even though I was clearly dominating certain areas in midfield and in attack, whilst my opponent, who was dominating less, still managed to create chances.
Or take that match two days ago. Not a single chance in 70 minutes, despite completely dominating the flanks.
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BVL_21 |
9 dias atrásIt’s “pleasing” to see that this feeling is shared by many managers. For the past three days, I’ve noticed significant inconsistencies between the actual match statistics by zone and the distribution of xG versus the final result. For the past few days, I’ve had the feeling that chances/xG and the resulting goals are being distributed more randomly, to the detriment of the statistical dynamics of the game at the moment they occur.
In ‘normal’ times, without focusing on the result but solely on the statistics, a match with 70/30 per cent possession, where one side clearly dominated certain zones and the opposition’s xG was very low, would logically yield between 1.5 and 3 xG for one side, compared with less than 0.5 xG for the opposition. I see the same match dynamics, but the xG output is completely different, with a final ratio that deviates very sharply from the dynamics experienced during the match.
To illustrate my point, I’ve noted numerous matches along the same lines, but I’m posting this one from two days ago: I still don’t understand the xG figures for this match based on the statistics recorded over 1 hour 30 minutes.
#match?mid=6925366&stats&min=50
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estac |
9 dias atrásMagpie are in the Champions League final.
That’s enough to prove that the MDM is bugged.
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Demi-cerveau |
9 dias atrásC'est dommage que ça ait pas commencé à buguer il y a 15 jours, je l'aurais plié ...
OMstar83 |
8 dias atrásMind you, he’s a real fan of taking the easy way out, isn’t he!
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Tchub |
9 dias atrás#match?mid=6966498&stats
Right, here’s my little contribution :D
Three chances in 20 minutes, then nothing for 20 minutes... Just look at the stats – I usually end up on 3 or 4 xG, but here I don’t even have one.
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Galywat |
9 dias atrásTo be honest, your example isn’t really very telling – you certainly dominated the midfield outrageously, but there was no attacking presence (until the last 20–25 minutes).
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Tchub |
9 dias atrásRight, but what I can’t explain is the three chances in 20 minutes and then nothing at all…
What’s more, I had zero chances during the 20 minutes when I was dominating their entire defence. I finished with an attack rating of 230 and a defence rating of 90, with zero chances.
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T-800 |
9 dias atrásYes, it’s true that Magpie reaching the final is clearly the ultimate proof that the mdm is completely bugged, but in a masterful way – in other words, world-class xD
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Magpie |
9 dias atrásI couldn’t have put it better myself!
I was actually wondering the same thing when I saw the club’s news updates, where they talk about a ‘run’.
Luckily, the charade will come to an end tonight, and we can get back to business as usual!
By the way, good luck to Lecastor in their match, even if that’s not the point here.
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Whako |
9 dias atrásOuais il y a clairement une problématique, mon dernier IE j'avais des couloirs tout le match avec des ratios 3/1 et je n'ai eu qu'une occasion, tandis que lui a eu 2 occasions max xG avec des ratios 1/3, il n'a pas marquer, mais ce match il a eu 5x les xG que j'ai eu quand j'aurais du avoir 3 de xG
Nicolas-2008 |
8 dias atrásI’ve just realised that even if you’ve got space down the flanks, it doesn’t necessarily mean your attacks down the wings will run like clockwork...
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seblelionnais |
8 dias atrásIt’s mainly the way actions are generated that’s changed a fair bit. And it seems the logic behind it is no longer there
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RMP-Val |
8 dias atrás
Just looking at the expected goals (xG) figures for BBQ and LR confirms that something’s not quite right.
A 0–0 draw can happen, but if anyone followed the match, the xG figures should have been something like 0.5 to 1.9 or thereabouts.
Here, it looks as though BBQ were closer to winning than the other way round.
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