jul068 |

28 horas atrás

Apparently the topic started by Nicularo 15 days ago has just been archived.
So let's refocus the debate.
I think it's necessary to keep track of the reports of multiple accounts that were made to the admin team 15 days ago and again recently by Demi.
Aymeric should be able to react and give us information on how to solve the problem that's plaguing VF. And perhaps some feedback from the admins on their difficulties in catching those who are on VF with 2, 3, 4 or 50 accounts.


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Rull43 |

27 horas atrás

Who closed the topic? You have 129 likes on an important subject. You delete the passages that have gone astray and that bother you and then reopen the topic.

It's a disgrace, you don't mess with an admin. Don't hijack the subject. It disgusts me as much as the basic subject.


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bluethunders26 |

21 horas atrás

Rull43: Qui a fermé le sujet? Vous avez 129 likes sur un sujet primordial. Vous supprimez les passages qui ont dévié et qui vous gêne et mais rouvrez ce topic

C'est un honte, on ne s'en prend pas à un admin. Ne détournez pas le sujet. Cela me dégoute autant que le sujet de base.

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Rull43 |

20 horas atrás

bluethunders26:
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Thank you.

Because of the exchange on michbou or because of the topic of the topic, circulez y a rien à voir?


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Lebaygue |

20 horas atrás

It's not because the subject is closed that Aymeric hasn't paid attention to it... It's just that it might not be solved in half a day and that, on top of that, it would require him to backtrack too recently.
Until there's proof to the contrary, it's neither the CPs nor the LRs who are in charge of this game, which is also rather successful for them.
At some point the masquerade will be reversed by dint of insistence.... The mdj, ageing as we all are, needs to keep abreast of new technologies and use a vpn himself to go to a site dedicated to this from time to time.

The admins must have already, long before the initial topic, talked to him about the problems caused by his new rules... If he chooses to follow his own line, which is his own, you can say "stop the 138 masquerade", but that won't change anything, as the 130 likes aren't ready to give up their accounts... It's all about consistency, giving up what you've built up over a game....From there, Aymeric has nothing to worry about and is going at his own pace.


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bluethunders26 |

20 horas atrás

Rull43: J'ai vu merci.

À cause de l'échange sur michbou ou à cause du sujet du topic, circulez y a rien à voir?

for me, your exchanges with michbou on alerts means that we are dealing with more than just these cases and that before the exchanges you were debating the subject.


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Misha |

18 horas atrás

We wish Nicularo good luck and a warm welcome. It's great news!


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Brutus |

17 horas atrás

Excellent news even 👍


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Socrate |

16 horas atrás

Excellent news indeed
Strength to him 🫱🏾‍🫲🏻


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Socrate |

15 horas atrás
And to be transparent, since this is obviously something that is much in demand and eagerly awaited:

[In the last 14 days, 134 clubs have been blocked for multiple accounts[/b].

So just because you report an "anomaly" and would sometimes like to see cheaters banned instantly, doesn't mean that nothing is happening behind the scenes. As Blue said, sometimes we're already working on other cases or following up certain leads or simply caught up in our IRL lives.

At least you can rest assured on one point: you don't want a VF full of multi-accounts or cheats, and neither do the admins.

Good evening to you all.

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Lebaygue |

15 horas atrás

And so Nicu will be able to indulge in what you don't because of the new rules erected by the boss...it's implacably logical.
Friends of deception, good night 😁


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OMstar83 |

14 horas atrás

Great news about Nicularo's arrival. I only know him from the positions he's taken on the forum, but I like him every time. And given Aymeric's intention to expand the 'mutual aid' scheme, one or even 2 more admins wouldn't be a bad idea to support the existing admins. After that, you have to enjoy giving hours of your free time every day. Having done it for too long, it's not the most fun. I wish you all the best.


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myforsans |

7 horas atrás
> **Socrate**: Et pour être transparent, puisque c’est visiblement quelque chose qui est beaucoup demandé et attendu :
>
> Durant ces 14 derniers jours, 134 clubs ont été bloqués pour multi-comptes.
>
> Donc ce n’est pas parce que vous nous signalez une « anomalie » et que vous aimeriez parfois voir les tricheurs bannis instantanément, que rien ne se passe derrière. Comme l’a dit Blue, il arrive aussi que nous soyons déjà sur d’autres affaires ou en train de suivre certaines pistes ou tout simplement pris ...

It's a figure that shows that admins are not idle, but rather than welcoming it, it's just (very) worrying.... because it shows the scale of the phenomenon.
Blocking 134 multi-accounts is one thing, but what about blocking the clubs that created them? That's the only real question and the only real figure worth knowing!
Because if the x creators of the 134 blocked accounts recreate 268 of them this week, we're no further ahead.

It's a bit like the police in my town saying;
Great news: in the last 14 days, 134 heroin users have had their merchandise seized.

So this figure of 134 just goes to show the serious gangrene that has completely infested the game with the double draught of :
1) super players distributed free of charge in spades;
in parallel with
2) an uncontrolled free market that catalyses the system.

These 134 blockages are an illustration for the admins of 2 of the 12 labours of Hercules: The Stables of Augias and above all the Hydra of Lerna!

The problems of widespread cheating will not be solved downstream by cancelling multi-accounts, but upstream.
That's why, as I had proposed (which had brought together a considerable number of players in agreement and, of course, a few 'right-thinkers' against), one of the ways of substantially mitigating the system is double authentication by SMS when a new club is created, and then very occasionally afterwards, for example to validate a transfer other than by auction.

I can already hear the 'cybersecurity' and cryptography specialists who will be coming here to explain that it won't be infallible. Yes, it probably won't, but it will deter 90% of cheats and it could also make it easier for admins to identify the remaining 10%.

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jul068 |

3 horas atrás
> **Socrate**: Et pour être transparent, puisque c’est visiblement quelque chose qui est beaucoup demandé et attendu :
>
> Durant ces 14 derniers jours, 134 clubs ont été bloqués pour multi-comptes.
>
> Donc ce n’est pas parce que vous nous signalez une « anomalie » et que vous aimeriez parfois voir les tricheurs bannis instantanément, que rien ne se passe derrière. Comme l’a dit Blue, il arrive aussi que nous soyons déjà sur d’autres affaires ou en train de suivre certaines pistes ou tout simplement pris ...

Thank you Socrate for this information.
I imagine that you have to keep a low profile during your 'investigations', but in my opinion communicating the results is essential. Communication could be a very useful tool for limiting the number of managers who go over to the 'dark side', thinking that they too could create a small army of multi's to make faster progress on vf.
No, the admins are taking action and doing the best they can despite the changes to the rules that aren't necessarily helping them at the moment.

PS: Thank you Nicularo for your investment in VF.

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