Hello, here's a little topic to find people who can explain my victories and defeats because I've been playing since 2011 and I understand absolutely nothing, not just the defeats. It's not a question of results. How did the game get to this point of total randomness? To keep the new players? Is that the point?

Hello.

We've been reading the lament about mdm on VF for a few days now... I'm going to give you two things to think about.

• #forum?topic=170386 read this subject, which is interesting. Not to whine at the end, but to try and understand a little of what's being said.
• Take a look at the ranking of D1 agreements. The Roman Legion is first with 261 points. Look at the clubs that have played 9 games or more in this agreement. They are systematically in the top 3 of their D1 championship. I don't think that's pure chance.

So yes, there are games that slip through our fingers. Yes, there's a random element in all the results, and that's normal because the model on which this game is developed is a probabilistic model. But no, it's not all random. On the whole, you win more games than you have to than you lose. And overall, the big clubs finish on the podium in the d1 championships. The big clubs finish ahead in the IE leagues. And if you're really losing all your games, even friendlies against clubs that have been inactive for 6 months, then you need to look at what's wrong with your tactics, because the problem isn't the mdm in this case.

So I don't agree with you on everything. I don't understand the match engine at all. I've read what you're talking about and it just confirms what I think. The mdm is bug very very often. Very, very often I have update bugs, for example 5 minutes without it moving (the stats), which proves a certain malfunction. Then the tactical aspect doesn't work at all clearly the ng plays a huge role on the other hand. As a 7-month-old club who have 91 de ng, I'm also wondering a lot. I understand that Aymeric earns money on his game, it's deserved, he's created a top game. But we need to find something to make it fun again during our matches because it's catastrophic what's happening from my point of view. I don't care if we win or lose, just a bit of consistency and a return to tactics would be great.

I quite agree.
If we lose, it's because we made some bad choices, I think.
The vf greats are always at the top.....

I don't even know how to argue about it any more, but it's obvious all the same. I've got the impression that the game is really only broken in terms of the match engine. Or else explain some logic to me here or privately to get coherent results. I'd really like it if it was just me who didn't understand anything. I'd like to say that the game is "still alive" but I have serious doubts.

Personally, I ended up giving up. VF became too random and boring to follow 1h30

ptitze: Je suis assez d accord.
Si on perds c est qu il y a une part de mauvais choix je pense.
Les grands de vf sont tjs au sommet.....

That's just it, I think that the big vf players aren't necessarily all at the top any more, there's a lot more change now and a lot of them are fed up of it, having talked to a few of them and we've lost a lot of them too with all the changes. Afterwards, if you're right, that's great, because everything's going well and it's just those who are moaning who are rubbish or have become rubbish lol.

Akram: Perso j'ai fini par abandonner.. VF est devenu trop aléatoire et ennuyeux à suivre 1h30

Come back to ELU and we'll explain 😉

k3vin59218: Reviens a l ELU on va t expliquer 😉

I wouldn't mind an explanation myself, just to prove to myself that the game is still "alive".

mick3829: Je veux bien une explication personnellement juste pour me prouver que le jeu est encore « vivant »

You missed the first part of his sentence 😅

Nicularo: Tu as manqué la première partie de sa phrase 😅

Yes, I thought, sometimes he argues 🤣🤣

Hi
I've always played this way, adapting my tactics on match day.
My players have almost 100% affinity (by line of course).
I'm not saying I'm a crack at VF, far from it. But from one day to the next, nothing makes sense, I play against clubs with no defence or no midfield, it's the same thing, I lose the match without scoring a goal. My players are far from bad (in NG).
I even remember embarrassing some of the game's big names, but it's been a few seasons since all that was finished, and even the inactive ones are getting to you now.
My opinion is this: Pay To win.
Last year and this year seem very beneficial for the MDJ 💶(and better for him, he had to invest in the game and the fallout is therefore normal and deserved). But with all the VIP purchases, I wouldn't be surprised if nothing changed, as long as it went into the cash register. All the curves and statistics you've shown us don't demonstrate anything at all.
So yes, the game has changed and my tactics have nothing to do with it.
On that note, I'm bowing out of the Championships.
Friendlies and IE from now on (maybe IS too but I don't even feel like it any more).
Good luck to you all 👋

mick3829: Justement je trouve que justement l’es grand de vf ne sont plus forcément tous au sommet beaucoup plus de changement maintenant et beaucoup en ont marre d’ailleurs pour avoir discuter avec quelque un et ont en a perdu beaucoup aussi avec tout ses changements. Après si tu as raison tant mieux c’est que tout vas bien et simplement ceux qui râle qui sont nul ou devenu nul lol

Your explanation also makes sense.
😉

mick3829: Je veux bien une explication personnellement juste pour me prouver que le jeu est encore « vivant »

I think Demi summed it up well 😉
Apres oui il y a toujours des matchs bizar , ou il ne se passe rien ou l'on perd en ayant tout tenter . Analyse the matches, there are a lot of things to take into account.
But for the most part (for my part) I'm of the same opinion as Demi and that ... that scares me!

ptitze: Je suis assez d accord.
Si on perds c est qu il y a une part de mauvais choix je pense.
Les grands de vf sont tjs au sommet.....

The greats of VF 🤣🤣
Credit card yeah
Come on I'll stop there, apparently we're bad on VF 🤣

k3vin59218: Je trouve que Demi a bien resumé 😉
Apres oui il y a toujours des matchs bizar , ou il ne se passe rien ou l on perd en ayant tout tenter . Analyser les matchs , pas mal de choses a prendre en compte
Mais en grande majorité ( pour ma part ) je suis du meme avis que Demi et ca ... ca me fait peur !!

I didn't understand all of his opinion 🤣 but I don't totally disagree with him. After the biggest ones for me there's a huge amount of change now. In my opinion, the subject he quotes proves that I'm right. I've read it over and over again, but it does prove that there's a problem.

In fact, you just need to have a max ng and only put impact on one part and that's it, I won the vffa challenge like that lol but it's shit and it's anything but normal. I didn't touch a single news item to win this competition, I was hallucinating 🤣

Coco is just too strong Mick, look no further!

Kevin-7130: Coco est juste trop fort Mick, cherche pas plus loin!

Mdr oui oui on vas dire sa 🤣🤣🤣

mick3829: Mdr oui oui on vas dire sa 🤣🤣🤣

But yes, he's strong, I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it or anything.

After that, it wasn't a complicated game to manage either, just no chances on either side, nothing but total boredom lol.

Kevin-7130: Coco est juste trop fort Mick, cherche pas plus loin!

Well I missed the first half so that's not helping lol

mick3829: Bon j’ai louper la première mi temps sa aide pas lol

It's true that it didn't help you I closed up after the goal

Hi, I'm NG 91, 7 months old 🙃

CocoBsn: C'est vrai que ça t'a pas aidé j'ai fermé après le but

Coucou c'est moi le NG 91 de 7 mois 🙃

Yes, but not only lol 😝

CocoBsn: C'est vrai que ça t'a pas aidé j'ai fermé après le but

Coucou c'est moi le NG 91 de 7 mois 🙃

I don't understand how it's possible, given how long it used to take us to get a team like this, even after 3 months.

It's an ephad I've got, they're not expensive, my players
It's the NHS that pays 😝

CocoBsn: C'est un ephad que j'ai ils sont pas chères mes joueurs
C'est la sécu qui paie 😝

🤣🤣 non mais c'est pas une critique du tout rien contre toi au contraire c'est le système que je comprends pas. It's become so easy now to have teams like that. Moi peu peut que je paye mes choix de jouer qd avec des joueurs forment chez moi sauf 2 lol effectivement je pourrais largement recruter de fou comme sa. Vus les dizaines de saisons que j'économise lol mais avant pour sortir 3 million c'était dur. Lol je suis jsloux de sa 🤣

CocoBsn: C'est un ephad que j'ai ils sont pas chères mes joueurs
C'est la sécu qui paie 😝

My topic wasn't about our match in particular but more about the whole thing. Although I didn't understand that one either. Lol les xg très proche pas d'occasion, première mi temps très serré malgré mon absence bref j'y comprends plus rien 🤣 après c'est qu'un jeux, je ne demande pas de gagner mais juste un peu moins d'aléatoires que la tactique re vienne sur vf. That's all I'm asking lol