Hello everyone

Following the change to the loan system, which removed the possibility of recalling players, some clubs are now seeing their players "stuck" on loan in other teams without being able to recall them. I'm talking here about long loans, longer than 1 season for example.
Before the change, we were able to 'extend' loans to other ends of the season (because we had no other option), with the idea of being able to call back players if necessary (if the receiving club wanted to change its plans, or to sell). However, this change was made, and it was impossible to put in place the strategy we had initially envisaged.
I'd like to reiterate that these were long calls made BEFORE Aymeric's change blocking returns.
As a result, the players are blocked, and will return in a random heap at the end of the season, which is impossible to manage.
Would it be possible to ask the administrators to cancel loans (via the console) for justified cases (affected by the elements mentioned above)?
I'm making my request in public to have a collective discussion on these cases.

And I'd like to make it clear once again that this would only apply to loans made BEFORE the changes were made. Those made afterwards were aware of the "new rules".

I would like to point out that mappie
had asked me to cancel the loan AND I refused following Aymeric 45' s modification.
I also put the question to Aymeric 45 on the discord.
This is what I can say about this question from mappie

Correct, and it was following your recommendation that I then posted.
Hoping for feedback from the other admins too 🙂

michbou: Je tiens à signaler que mappie
M avais demandé de faire annuler le prêt ET j' ai refusé suite à la modification de Aymeric 45
J' ai également posé la question à Aymeric 45 sûr le discord.
Voilà ce que je peux dire sur cette question de mappie

Everyone who has contacted me for the same reason has received the same response.

Well, why help some people when every time Aymeric has made a change, there have always been losers (training, for example) and winners.
The change was made because some people optimised the said loans to their liking.
I'm voting against it, otherwise it's an open door to all kinds of windows, and it's a good thing this change was made.

Brutus: Ben pourquoi arranger certain alors qu’à chaque modification d’Aymeric, il y a toujours eu des lésés (formation par exemple) et des gagnants.
La modif a été faite car certain ont optimisé à leur guise sur lesdits prêts.
Je vote contre, sinon c’est la porte ouverte à toutes les fenêtres, heureusement qu’il y a eu cette modif.

That seems to me to be beside the point
The question is not whether or not this measure is justified. It is there, and probably for good reasons, but that's not the point.
The point was to be able to manage, or not, the consequences for bona fide managers who have been harmed by these changes. And I'm only talking about justified cases (long and old loans).
And for once, the admins had the tools to do it, quite quickly, once the merits of the request had been verified.

I repeat, I'm talking about loans taken out before the changes were made.

Ok, you want an improvement to suit you, without contradiction, and that won't change VF's core gameplay, but you don't want to wait 1 month to get your players back at the same time.

It's VF, it's a management game and I stand by every one of Aymeric's changes, there have been those who have been wronged.

Good luck with your improvement project, have a good evening and a good weekend 🤙

In fact, and I'd hoped you'd understood this but obviously not, it wasn't an Enhancement Project. But it wasn't a bug either. So I put it here to discuss it (and after Michbou's recommendation).
And the idea isn't to fix me alone. But as I'm actually affected, it did help me, yes. But I don't think I'm the only one concerned. So there's a double interest in writing about it here.

And I'm not against contradiction, certainly not. But you still have to understand the subject. And as you said, VF is a management game. The problem is that the rules change. So if we can mitigate that, it seemed relevant to me (but it's a bias, I admit).
Have a good weekend!

Aymeric has corrected this to limit abuse of 2-3 day loans (to help a friend at a match, etc.).

In itself, it's not a problem.
But a guy on loan with J56 seniority should be able to be recalled at any time.

Maybe with the agreement of both parties, that wouldn't be bad.

Magpie: Bonjour à tous

Suite à la modification des prêts, supprimant la possibilité de rappel, certains clubs voient donc leurs joueurs "bloqués" en prêt dans d'autres équipes sans pouvoir les rappeler. Je parle ici de prêts longs, supérieurs à 1 saison par exemple.
Avant la modification, nous avions pu "prolonger" les prets à d'autres fins de saisons (car on n'a pas d'autre possibilité), avec l'idée de pouvoir rappeler si nécessaire (si le club reveceur voulait changer ses plans, ou pour vendre...

Perhaps Aymeric should just "lock" the loan market for the first 14 days of the season and allow returns/calls once the +1 training period is over, as this is the main reason why the feature was suspended in the first place.

In short, good night +1