Hello,

That's all there is to it.

Some people have rightly been penalised for cheating.

The entire community also expects exemplary sanctions for those who continue to cheat, whether they are small or very large clubs!

Jex has also become an anti-cheating admin in the meantime, so some people must be getting hot under the collar 😂

You're implying that the administrators are biased and choose who they're going to punish or not, is that it?

Blagoje Vidinic: Tu sous-entends que les administrateurs sont partiaux et choisissent ceux qu'ils vont sanctionner ou pas, c'est ça ?

You interpret...

Jex has managed to prove that some people cheat.

Have they been sanctioned by the mdj?

So you're talking to Aymeric?

To the community in general.

We expect sanctions against all those who cheat so that we can play clean.

The problem, David, is that it's utopian to think that banning or deleting a guy is enough to clean up the game.
And neither the admins nor Aymeric should be held accountable for this or that decision... It's like a couple, you either trust them or you don't.

I'm convinced that Blagoje and Morten are the same person !!!
We've never seen them at the same time

steril: Je suis persuadé que Blagoje et Morten sont la meme personne !!!
On les a jamais vus en meme temps

If you hadn't escaped this summer, you'd have seen us all at the same time 😉

We're waiting, I don't give a fuck about cheats, I'm doing my own thing 😁

lens59: Nous attendons ?, moi je m'en tape des tricheurs je fais ma vie 😁

A wise decision :)

David59: Bonjour,

Tout est dit dans le sujet.

Certains ont été sanctionné à juste titre car ils ont triché.

L'ensemble de la communauté attend également des sanctions exemplaires pour ceux qui continuent de tricher, qu'ils soient de petits ou de très gros clubs!!!

Jex est en plus devenu admin anti triche entre temps, certains doivent avoir chaud aux fesses 😂

I've been banned several times and very often they were justified. The last one, I'm taking it for my reputation and only for that. But I maintain that I haven't touched a cheat for over two years now.
The subject is closed and it will be difficult to convince people of that, but I won't waste my energy on it.

I'm still surprised by the quick closure of my post, I didn't see any false accusations or insults. Simply factual evidence. On my last two posts, you close very quickly michbou.
The first is with Lomax, with whom you were getting on rather well in view of the discord. The second is your historical agreement.
Far be it from me to say that there is deliberate bias. But take a step back on this sort of thing, you have competent admins who can intervene if necessary.
Socrate and Jeff have been criticised enough for defending me, even though they were probably the two worst Jex trackers at one time.

The problem with cheating on VF today is that administrators prefer to manage files in the back office, without communication. This has both advantages and disadvantages. On the one hand, the community thinks they're doing nothing, and that's not really the case. On the other, some people think that cheating is not risky.

There was a Shame On system on VF a long time ago and I've been pushing the admins towards this for a long time. A history visible to all players who are caught red-handed.
Deleting Lomax's 59th account doesn't hurt him. But displaying the history of his idiocy will be more disturbing. Of course, this history has to disappear one day, otherwise he'll never try to return to a 'normal' game. We've all made mistakes in the past, and we shouldn't be judged by a few of them.

I've still got a few files to get out but I'd rather have some certainty before I do that. I'd never accuse someone without being convinced, so I'm going to work on a few files.

1voleur de sous irl continue a parle, obliger que je passe mon cher jex
the funniest thing is that we keep letting you come back
I've got 1 question to ask you, is it with the panel or without the panel?
that's the right question to ask, isn't it?
TJ 1 PLEASURE to read you my favourite thief

You're really worrying sincerely....
Keep coming back to vf to drop this or that.
It's a vf drug for you and you need your daily dose...

Wow vs never give up...
Read a book, have a drink, get a gym membership, talk to someone, do something. Find a way to quit.
Can the admins delete their replies and accounts?
Good luck admins, these are really complicated times. Thank you for all your hard work.

milou: laisser 1voleur de sous irl continuer a parle , obliger que je passe mon cher jex
le plus drole c est qu on te laisse sans cesse revenir
moi j ai 1question a te poser , dis c est avec le pannel ou sans le pannel ?
c est surtout ca la bonne question qu il faut poser non?
TJ 1 PLAISIR de te lire mon voleur prefere

Ho Lomax857590
At least with your spelling there's no better signature. I'm not sure I'll ever be able to do that again.
But hey, 1 everywhere is the ball in the centre.
I didn't steal from anyone and I'd be very curious if you could explain the contrary.
If you buy a faulty product, PayPal protects you from your purchase with a dispute system. If the seller cancels a transaction, it also protects you.
PayPal is not in the habit of swindling its customers. So if the dispute hasn't been resolved for 1 month by the seller, PayPal considers that the customer is right.
Aymeric refused all discussions and deleted the purchased content (which he put back, so surely he made a mistake, didn't he?) and then banned it without presenting any explanation or factual evidence.
There can't be any proof, because I didn't cheat. But you're going to explain to us that I probably entered a CheatCode with an Atl CTR Left + R1 + SPACE to free the players in the store.

But don't worry, I can see where you're hiding your players to be redistributed ... and where you're storing your cash.
If you want to lose all your nights, have fun.
It doesn't have to be personal but we can play that :). I too can spend a lot of time on the game to come and get your accounts.

But it's up to you to keep playing like that or to find a way to get back into the normal game. The store helps you put together a good team, so don't waste your time on anything else.
You've probably got a solution for every rule or admin intervention. But you always end up getting banned, so you're just wasting time.

Most of the former cheaters on VF have understood, but there are still a few like you who won't turn the page. Take your time and turn the page.

I've already told you, you can look for all the excuses in the world, it won't change a thing.
you got the players back and we lost our stars, so yes, you did raise 250 bucks for me.
mais je te ai déjà dit, vous fais 1 bon restaurant avec puisque tu l'air d'être en galère de sous
la diff entre toi et moi je n'ai pas besoin d'avoir du monde pour like mes posts, soit tu en avez 1 paire soit tu besoin de la paire des autres tu me comprend
bon je file mon cher voleur , je te dis a 1 prochaine , nulle doute que decibel ferra encore entendre le son

I ate an apple yesterday 🍏🤪😄

Drezzo35: Sinon moi hier j'ai mangé une pomme 🍏🤪😄

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Why not ask the tough questions?
Jex jurisprudence has shown that a ban can lead to a request for a refund for purchases made on the store by the banned player.
This leads to complications for both the buyer and the creator, and in a game that's already time-consuming for everyone, it doesn't help anyone.
So is there a difference in treatment between a user who is a 'good store customer' and one who plays without investing?
And I'm not talking about the admins, whose 'voluntary' work is above suspicion (and thanks again to them), but rather above it all.
In short, does being a good customer give you rights?
With increasingly sophisticated techniques and the help of AI, can the game still fight with its limited resources if individuals get their kicks exploiting all the existing loopholes?
In the end, should we either abandon the game or accept that some of the players will cheat and that this will become too complicated to channel and that we will have to deal with it by giving priority to exchanges between players without taking performance into account?

zejl: Et si je posais les questions qui fâchent ?
La jurisprudence Jex a prouvé qu un bannissement pouvait entraîner une demande de remboursement d achat effectués sur le store de la part du banni.
Cela entraîne des complications autant du côté acheteur que du créateur et sur ce jeu déjà chronophage pour tous ça n arrange personne.
Du coup y a t il un traitement different entre un utilisateur 'bon client du store' et un utilisateur qui joue sans investir ?
Et la je ne parle pas des admins dont le t...

there is no jurisprudence since decibel - jex - said that he reimbursed 80% SO when you reimburse it's because you're at fault, right?
he likes to talk so much that he said it himself whereas a45 told us that it was 1 vocal member and he didn't talk to us about jex that day.

decibel: Ho Lomax857590
Au moins avec ton orthographe il y a pas meilleure signature. Après je te reconnais surtout à tes incohérences.
Mais bon, 1 partout la balle au centre.
J'ai absolument volé personne et je serais très curieux que tu nous explique le contraire.
Si tu achètes un produit défaillant, PayPal te protège de ton achat avec un système de litige. Si le vendeur annule une transaction, il te protége aussi.
PayPal n'a pas pour habitude d'escroqué ses clients. Donc si le litige n'est pas r...

Ah hello Lomax 😅

David59: Bonjour,

Tout est dit dans le sujet.

Certains ont été sanctionné à juste titre car ils ont triché.

L'ensemble de la communauté attend également des sanctions exemplaires pour ceux qui continuent de tricher, qu'ils soient de petits ou de très gros clubs!!!

Jex est en plus devenu admin anti triche entre temps, certains doivent avoir chaud aux fesses 😂

What subject are you talking about when it comes to cheating?

Two banned people having a quiet disco on the vfo, don't you want to sort it out in private - on discord for example - instead?

Galywat: Deux bannis qui se tapent la disc-p-ute tranquille sur le vfo, vous voulez pas régler ça en privé -sur discord par exemple- plutôt ?

you should have been one a long time ago!
galy tell me you were chief admin at that time, weren't you?

1mois pour 1multi mais que tu connais ....

c'est la justice que tu donnais mon cher galy
ce jour la quand la lr a pris 300m d'amende , ca aurait dû être la supression de celle ci ainsi que la suppression des membres qui ont pris 100m d'amende mais le fameux galy est passe par la , d'autres n'ont pas u cette chance la ce jour la
please galy don't come here and lecture me, others can and I accept that but especially not you
I'm not 1saint and I never said I was, the mess with the niv1s isn't me and I don't even give a fuck, it's just this damn thief who comes and talks that gets on my nerves
I know I look bad on this one but in times of low blows as they say you should never turn the other cheek

I'll finish with this
You keep posting here and calling for fair justice for all, but are the penalties fair for the same reason?
SOME people shouldn't push the envelope too far or there really shouldn't be anything on them because they are posted on exel files (the words go but the writing stays) thanks to this admin who made this stock of exel files ...
donc sur vf il y a des multis qui sont bloqué x temps defois debloque ( 1pt clin d'oeil a ramo et ses centaines de comptes )
and multis that are deleted
so there must be different multis coming out i can't think of any other explanation
I've got you by the balls now, no need to hang on to jex's balls any more my friends
capri is finished ......

Well... We'll never get rid of it... Don't you want to find something else to do, Lomax? Like, I don't know, living without VF? You don't have any credit left here, you didn't have much before, but now you're dead, you're toast, no one's interested in the nonsense you spout and no one's talking about it...

Don't close the post, I've had more popcorn and it's raining so we need to keep busy and the zoo and gmfetmer are here :)

milou: tu devrais l etre depuis belle lurette TOI
galy dis moi tu etais admin en chef a cette periode la non?

1mois pour 1multi mais que tu connais ....

c est la justice que tu donnais mon cher galy
ce jour la quand la lr a pris 300m d amende , ca aurrait du etre la supression de celle ci ainsi que la suppression des membres qui ont pris 100m d amende mais le fameux galy est passe par la , d autres n ont pas u ...

Milou, go gnaw on your bone somewhere else, you're talking nonsense again.
In 2021 Jérôme was not in the Cercle and therefore not in the same cartel as Galy. Jérôme had been caught with a multi-account and had been banned for a month. At that time that was the usual penalty for a first sanction.
Now you're insinuating that they were in the same cartel, but that's totally false.

It's crazy though, I've played a whole bunch of MMORPGs where some invested huge sums, with a competitive side where money was at stake or really exclusive rewards, but I've never seen such drama...

maxence97300: C'est dingue quand même, j'ai joué a tout un tas de MMORPG ou certains investissaient des sommes faramineuses, avec un côté compétitif ou de l'argent était en jeu ou des récompenses vraiment exclusives, mais j'ai jamais vu un tel drama...

image](https://i.imgur.com/JHC5yJo.jpeg)
The ground-eating purple is the original Milleniums (in 2002) :)

Je peux t'assurer que les histoires étaient bien pire que sur VF.... entre triche, clubisme et les gamins de 10 ans le MMORPG à rien à envier à VF.

decibel:

En violet qui mange le sol c'est les Millenium de l'origine (en 2002) :)

Je peux t’assurer que les histoires étaient bien pire que sur VF.... entre triche, clubisme et les gamins de 10 ans le MMORPG à rien à envier à VF.

But you're everywhere

Is Lomax one of the cadavers?

Well, you'll thank jex for quoting me all the time, but it's better that way.
there's nothing to gnaw at, the facts simply speak for themselves
quand tu l'admin a le droit de tremper la nouille c'est blocage pour multi quand il a pas le droit c'est supression pour multi , galy roco il doit rougir en face de toi t'es 1 bête de sexe ma parole vais t'apeler lapinou maintenant lol
non plus serieux om star
ce que tu avez ecris est bien arrivé mais vous lr ont ete sanctionner de 100m par membre de la lr et 300m pour l'entente mais d'autres ont ete supprime et reset pour la meme faille ce jour la et c'est la que c'est pas normal .
Some of them are redivists for using vulnerabilities and only 100M?
I'm just reminding you that you are part of the d1 top10, you are the 1st to give lessons, but your multis that have been unblocked, your accounts that have been saved for cheating, are currently the pillars of your agreements, so your 2-bit morals are fine, just be polite 1 bit.
vous pouvez bien braquer vos yeux sur les petits niv qui se cre ou dires ouech mec moi j'ai pas triche avant pour monter mon club mdr , derrière t'as bibi qui a les dossiers .....
le mec qui crée tous ses niv 1 , il s'est choppe , a été bloqué ainsi que d'autres membres qui ont justement profite de ses niv1 ( et oui c'était pas moi ) faut se demander qui l'a debloque derrière lui et tous ses multis
and if this account still exists tomorrow i'll show you when i release 1 freebig that the game will give me and who will come and make the requests 30sec after its release the jex gang lol
the galy gang, you're still jex's knickers on this one
bon vous faites ce plaisir pour parler bête maintenant mais n'oublier pas les pilliers de vos ententes, les titres gagnes, les cadeaux fait du staff sont les fondements meme de vos ententes ( dans les multis qui etaient cense et supprime comme de vrais multis et debloque on y y voit encore auj des matchs ies entre ces multis..... transfers between these clubs and here you are crying for free transfers for the coming season (that's why I say it's good for everyone, for fairness) because worse than now it can't be.

I'm told that Galywat is even going to unblock Sarkozy!

Marcus Aurelius: Lomax c’est un des cadavres ?

In real life ... It's only me in the photo, the rest are just lomax accounts :D

decibel: En vrai ... Il n'y a que moi sur la photo le reste c'est des comptes à lomax :D

tkt t'y ai aussi pour la faille toi tu n'a recu que 14j de blocage mon cher voleur mdr

Marcus Aurelius: On me dit dans l’oreillette que Galywat va même débloquer Sarkozy !

you see my dear sanguy you also took the 100m for the double click flaw while others were reset and deleted for the same flaw .....
it's no longer in the earpiece but in the mouth, isn't it?

milou: tu vois mon cher sanguy tu as aussi pris les 100m pour la faille du double clic pendant que d autres ont ete reset et supprime pour cette meme faille .....
c est plus dans l oreillette mais dans la bouche non?

but we all don't care what you say.
please stop polluting us!

milou: tu vois mon cher sanguy tu as aussi pris les 100m pour la faille du double clic pendant que d autres ont ete reset et supprime pour cette meme faille .....
c est plus dans l oreillette mais dans la bouche non?

I didn't take 100M 😂. I didn't take anything.

milou: tu vois mon cher sanguy tu as aussi pris les 100m pour la faille du double clic pendant que d autres ont ete reset et supprime pour cette meme faille .....
c est plus dans l oreillette mais dans la bouche non?

Drugs are always bad...

junior: Surtout ne fermer pas le poste ,j'ai repris du pop corn et en plus il pleut donc il faut de occupation et le zoo et fermer chez nous :)

It's raining here too...

at home too :)

David59: Bonjour,

Tout est dit dans le sujet.

Certains ont été sanctionné à juste titre car ils ont triché.

L'ensemble de la communauté attend également des sanctions exemplaires pour ceux qui continuent de tricher, qu'ils soient de petits ou de très gros clubs!!!

Jex est en plus devenu admin anti triche entre temps, certains doivent avoir chaud aux fesses 😂

The Facom story doesn't date from today, but from several years ago, during the Galy era.
At which time they were released after a week that then agreements like the old AFO took very dear for less than that.
Because we all know the reason.
When I see Jérôme banned for a month for the same reason that Facom and co. were debarred in a week, it's proof of a double standard.

Once again, that was before, since then the admin team have done a great job, and we can talk to them easily without being fined directly, unlike some people.
Ps: when you have LR admins and LRs have been fined it proves the neutrality of the current admins.
Which wasn't the case before.

Personally I continue to encourage and give my trust to the admins we have today who do everything to make the game the best possible for us.

VF, an open-air sociological experiment
(And it's not good for the future of humanity)

Magikcats: Après l'histoire de Facom ça ne date pas d'aujourd'hui mais de plusieurs années, a l'époque de Galy.
Auquel ils ont été débloquer au bout d'une semaine qu'alors des ententes comme l'ancienne AFO ont prit très chère pour moins que ça.
Car nous connaissons tous la raison.
Quand je vois Jérôme banni un mois pour la même raison que Facom et cie ont été debanni en une semaine, c'était la preuve de deux cas deux mesures.

Encore une fois , c'était avant, depuis l'équipe admin font un énorme taf...

❤️❤️❤️

El_Sombrero: VF, un expérience sociologique à ciel ouvert
(Et c'est pas bon pour l'avenir de l'humanité)

You should have turned off your television a long time ago ;) Look at BFM TV or any other news channel... I find VF soft. Even compared to other online games.

decibel: ya longtemps que tu as du couper le poste toi ;) Regardes BFM TV ou autre chaine d'info... Je trouve VF soft. Meme par rapport à d'autre jeu en ligne.

Personally, I don't see the difference, people getting stuck on the same phrases over and over ... Here it's cheating, on BFM and CNews it's blacks and Arabs.

Magikcats: Après l'histoire de Facom ça ne date pas d'aujourd'hui mais de plusieurs années, a l'époque de Galy.
Auquel ils ont été débloquer au bout d'une semaine qu'alors des ententes comme l'ancienne AFO ont prit très chère pour moins que ça.
Car nous connaissons tous la raison.
Quand je vois Jérôme banni un mois pour la même raison que Facom et cie ont été debanni en une semaine, c'était la preuve de deux cas deux mesures.

Encore une fois , c'était avant, depuis l'équipe admin font un énorme taf...

Hello,

You're very cute, but just so you know, I got a 1-month suspension and a fine of up to 500m ,-)

The 16m for the week of the agreement, not 14m for my friend LR, was discussed with the admins and is within the rules, it was Aymeric who decided to proceed in this way ,-)-)

Kisses Jex ,-)

Facom: Hello,

Tu es bien mignon, mais pour ton info, j'ai pris 1 mois de suspension et dans les 500m d'amende ,-)

L'histoire des 16m semaine de l'entente, pas 14m pour mon copain LR, ça a été discuté avec les admins et c'est dans les règles, c'est bien Aymeric qui a décidé de procéder de la sorte ,-)-

Bisous mon Jex ,-)

Yes, but it was cancelled after a week.
Then it wasn't the bank's 20m hits. It was transfers between clubs, including the two that Jex mentioned ;)

Magikcats: Oui mais annulé au bout d'une semaine.
Puis c'était pas les coups de 20 m de la banque. Mais bien des transferts entre clubs dont les deux que Jex a cité ;)

No, not at all, 1 month block, review your information with 500m fine if my memory serves me right.