I've received this message in my "sent proposals" tab
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and that his owner (estac) is making me this counter-offer.
i don't get it.
I've never tried to buy this player,... admittedly a very good player whom I'm discovering but who I don't really need and who is worth roughly slightly more than half the price of this counter-offer.
I don't want to be debited the 150 M and see this player arrive if his owner (estac) validates it.
Please fix this bug. I don't know if this is an isolated case, but if there's a general bug with counter-proposals, it's likely to give the admins a lot of work.
NB: at the same time I'm contacting estac to help me understand.

From now on, you can cancel your proposals yourself, I believe.

OK, thanks for the information, but it doesn't explain how this counter-proposal ended up with me

Right now the price is 150M so I'm not likely to validate it, but if it came from hacking into estac's account and I'd received the offer at 50M for example, I could have validated it and the player would have ended up with me without my having asked to buy him in the first place and probably without estac having wanted to sell him at that price.

So my message goes beyond the specific case raised, it's in the general interest because if we now receive unsolicited counter-offers as mentioned above, the admins are going to have their work cut out with complaints from sellers.

myforsans: Ok merci pour l'info mais ça n'explique comment cette contreproposition a atterri chez moi

Là le prix est de 150 M donc je ne risque pas de la valider mais si ça vient du piratage du compte d'estac et si j'avais reçu la proposition par exemple à 50 M, j'aurai pu la valider et le joueur aurait atterri chez moi sans que j'ai sollicité au départ de l'acheter et vraisemblablement sans que estac ait souhaité le vendre à ce prix.

Donc mon message au delà du cas particulier soulevé, il est dans l'...

If there wasn't a proposal in the first place, I don't think there can be a counter-proposal. So, basically, if an account has been hacked, it's yours, to send a proposal in the first place.

Hi there.
I made a counter-offer at that price following your other offer of 100k...

Demi-cerveau: Si il n'y a pas eu de proposition au départ, je ne pense pas qu'il puisse y avoir de contre proposition. Donc, à la limite, si un compte a été piraté, c'est le tien, pour envoyer une proposition au départ.

No, I don't think so because I don't have anything in the list of proposals I've sent
Only estac (whom I've alerted) will be able to say whether he's received anything from me (...or from my supposed pirate!)

Yes, Myfor, your account may have been hacked. Change your password 😉

estac: Salut.
J'ai fait une contre proposition à ce prix là suite à ton offre de 100k...

of 100 k :) :) can you take a screenshot?

Well, the counter-proposal has disappeared from my tab.
did you remove it, Estac? ..... or was it an admin? ....because if it's someone else, yes, it could be a hacker!

myforsans: Bon la contre-proposition a disparu de mon onglet.
c'est toi Estac qui l'a enlevée ? ..... ou c'est un admin ?....parce que si c'est quelqu'un d'autre oui ça pourrait être un pirate !

Myfor change your password.
Estac couldn't send you a counter-proposal without getting a proposal from you.

myforsans: de 100 k :) :) :) et elle émane de qui ? peux tu faire une capture d'écran ?

I can't capture it.
The offer disappears after the counter-proposal

jul068: Myfor change ton mdp.
Estac ne pouvait pas t’envoyer une contre proposition sans avoir une proposition de ta part.

Yes, thank you for the advice