Teddy |

Hace 27h

The manhunt continues and I have to explain something else.

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Image 1 comes from a PV chat with Kevin.
Image 2 comes from a private message to Aymeric following the player's deletion.

I'll say it again: the mechanism for returning to the store has been in place for 10 years.
The links are deleted, and this is visible both to the agent and from the team page, so it's accessible to everyone.

The only thing you've proved here is that Kévin is an AMI - which won't surprise anyone.
Your 'proof' shows at least one thing: there's no need for any technique or manipulation, since I didn't give Kévin any instructions.

Don't hesitate to pass on your questions to the administrators, I'm available to answer them.
Good luck to them in sorting all this out.

No further information at the moment.
Please avoid making accusations without proof - we really don't need any more of that.


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artemis66 |

Hace 25h

Teddy: La chasse à l'homme continue et impose que j'explique un autre point.

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L'image 1 sort d'une discussion PV avec Kevin.
L'image 2 sort d'un message privé fait à Aymeric suite à la suppression du joueur.

Je le répète : le mécanisme de retour au store existe depuis 10 ans.
Les liens sont supprimés, et cela est visible aussi bien par l’agent que depuis la fiche équipe, donc accessible à tous.

La seule chose ...

The deliberate use of a bug or loophole (no distinction is made in the rules, which we all read before playing the game) in order to make a profit is prohibited.
In the event of deliberate use of a loophole (the word loophole is clearly marked but before loophole and bug are used to mean the same thing) you will receive..... in the event of a repeat offence.....

OK, A45 said a while ago that it was a bug. But you're no stranger to bugs: you're the one who's probably done the most in-depth scratching of VF.
You even say on vforum that the bug was fixed 5 or 6 seasons ago. Now it's been around for 10 years.....
But you use it and share it with others with full knowledge of the facts (at least of the ambiguity of such a feature, which doesn't seem normal and disadvantageous for other managers) and you know the rules.

Once the fire has been declared, you send elements about the bug... we don't have the conversation history, you may have been doing it for 5 or 6 seasons, that's impossible to say, but it's still surprising that the bug has been fixed today and not for the 10 years it's existed, isn't it?

Personally, I think you know you're in a bad position, a very bad position indeed.
There's fire just about everywhere, because you're still involved where there's ambiguity.

I think you're a brilliant person, and you know it, and I think it's a shame that you're not using your talents to help VF.
Your past, inevitably, and you know it, is problematic.
I don't believe in changing a person. I'm not saying you shouldn't give someone a second chance, but I think even that one has worn you out.

I think it's a shame to lose admins who do a great job, who give up their time for a community that doesn't always do them justice, on a subject where you're (still) in the dock.

So we see messages that aren't wrong. The two of you are being accused when there are surely others who have taken advantage. They won't come forward, but I imagine that the game offers a way of tracking what's happening on the store since it's linked to real money.

Rules have to be enforced, and that's what the community wants... the community isn't asking for the heads of 3 of our admins.

Perhaps the final decision should be made by A45 alone.


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Demi-cerveau |

Hace 25h

artemis66: L’utilisation volontaire d’un bug ou d’une faille (aucune distinction n’est faite dans le règlement que l’on a tous lu avant de jouer au jeu) afin d’en tirer un profit est interdite.
En cas d’utilisation volontaire d’une faille (le mot faille est clairement marqué mais avant faille et bug sont employés pour dire la même chose) vous recevrez….. en cas de récidive…..

Ok, A45 a dit il y a peu que c’était un bug. Mais tu es coutumier du fait, tu te vantes toi mieux d’être celui qui a sans doute ...

I would like to say publicly that your opinion sums up my thoughts perfectly and much better than I could have done.


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Lebaygue |

Hace 24h

Demi-cerveau: Je tiens à exprimer publiquement que ton avis résume parfaitement et bien mieux que je ne l'aurais fait ma pensée.

I'd like to say publicly that your opinion of Artemis' opinion sums up my thoughts perfectly and much better than I would have done (I took the liberty of correcting a sentence that my speech therapist suggested to me ^^).


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