Ali_Cool |

2 month ago

​The rich are getting even richer...
Unfortunately, once again, we are witnessing an unfair decision that only serves to widen the huge gap between the D1 teams and the rest of the divisions.
Rewarding the league champion is a great idea, but why isn’t this extended to D2 and D3?

So I propose a better solution: implementing a sliding-scale system:
​Division 1 champion: Receives 100% of the prize money.
​Division 2 champion: Receives 50% or 60% of the prize money.
​Division 3 champion: Receives 25% or 30% of the prize money.
​This solution makes it possible to:
​Support clubs in the lower divisions to help them progress.
​Maintain a reasonable financial gap in favour of Division 1, without unfairly widening the divide.


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MERWAN |

2 month ago

But who’s behind that username? 🤣🤣🤣


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MERWAN Mais qui ce cache derrière ce pseudo🤣🤣🤣

Ali_Cool |

2 month ago

A young man 😅


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Ali_Cool Un jeune homme 😅

MERWAN |

2 month ago

Who should be particularly proud of the Moroccans’ current score?


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MERWAN Qui doit être fière du score actuel des marocains surtout

Ali_Cool |

2 month ago

You’re wrong.
I’m convinced that Morocco will equalise and go on to win.


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MERWAN Qui doit être fière du score actuel des marocains surtout

gweltaz29 |

2 month ago

Haiti’s actually pretty tough, believe it or not!


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gweltaz29 Haiti c'est costaud mine de rien !

gweltaz29 |

2 month ago

Right, I’ll shut up now...


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Tchub |

2 month ago

Apparently, even the poor are trying to get rich...


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Socrate |

2 month ago

Interesting


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Ali_Cool |

2 month ago

Thank you – I think it’s unfair on us, the Division 3 teams


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Ali_Cool Merci je trouve cela injuste pour nous, les ententes de division 3

hazard14 |

2 month ago

And I think it’s unfair that a bloke who’s only been learning French for a few months wants to learn as much – or even more – than those who’ve been learning for 20 years....
Just a bit of advice: be patient – that’s the best way to make progress.


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hazard14 Et moi je trouve injuste qu'un mec qui a quelque mois de vf veulent autant voir plus que ceux qui ont 20ans .... Juste un conseil soit patient c'est la meilleu…

Ali_Cool |

2 month ago

I’ve built up my team and it’s taken me a long time; apart from the brilliant people who helped me when I was starting out, I don’t know why the standard of my team keeps coming up in every discussion.
I just want the rewards to be distributed fairly.


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Ali_Cool J'ai développe mon équipe et cela m'a pris beaucoup de temps, en plus des personnes formidables qui m'ont aidé à mes débuts je ne sais pas pourquoi le niveau d…

hazard14 |

2 month ago

You keep going on about six months. Is that a long time?
Some blokes must take ten years to get what you’ve got without a blind or anything, and you’re complaining that it took you a while?
I’m done with your topics now – this is ridiculous...


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Ali_Cool J'ai développe mon équipe et cela m'a pris beaucoup de temps, en plus des personnes formidables qui m'ont aidé à mes débuts je ne sais pas pourquoi le niveau d…

Le saint |

2 month ago

Oh, you’ll get used to it 😂😂😂


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King |

2 month ago

Interesting


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Brutus |

2 month ago

In my opinion, he’s been on VF for over six months...

What he’s saying makes sense... he’s hit the nail on the head... he’s no six-week-old novice!

Anyway... I quite like him ^^


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Uzzego27 |

2 month ago

I was expecting this topic and I knew it would come from you; you’re complaining about the economic gap with D1, yet you’ve got a team with a 90 NG rating after just six months of play, and your club is already in D3 after only a few months in existence, I don’t think you’re in a position to complain about an economic gap when compared to alliances that have been around for several years.


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Ali_Cool |

2 month ago

​Does it bother you if other groups benefit from the rewards?
Why stray from the real issue instead of being constructive?


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Ali_Cool ​Ça vous pose un problème si les autres ententes d2 d3 profitent de cette récompenses ? Pourquoi s'éloigner du vrai sujet au lieu d'être constructifs

Uzzego27 |

2 month ago

No, what bothers me is the way the issue is being raised. I’ve no problem with there being bonuses in the other divisions, but instead of just making a normal proposal, you’d rather use this as an opportunity to bash the ‘bad’ Premier League clubs who are too strong and too rich, even though in six months’ time you’ll have the squad to compete in that division.


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Socrate |

2 month ago

Actually, I think what he’s proposing is quite reasonable.

It’s a bit like saying that, in a league, the winners of the second and third tiers don’t receive any prize money, when in reality they do.

He’s also proposing a system with rewards that decrease depending on the division the club plays in, which strikes me as consistent and balanced.


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sora02 |

2 month ago

We want names B)


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Blagoje Vidinic |

2 month ago

Ladies,
Young ladies.
Gentlemen,

Please set aside any grievances you may have against Ali_Cool and do not derail the original thread.
Furthermore, focusing your replies on the author’s personality or approach adds nothing to the debate; you are welcome to use private messages to put forward your views.

You are entitled to dislike his numerous posts, the way he has put his team together and the improvement projects he is pursuing, but this must not turn into a witch-hunt every time his username appears anywhere.

This is a one-off and final warning.


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Tazz26 |

2 month ago

I thought this applied to the lower divisions as well. It stands to reason… that he shouldn’t receive a similar reward makes sense, but that he gets nothing at all doesn’t. Just like the title in the honours list for Divisions 2 to 5… it costs nothing to add it. It recognises a collective achievement that deserves a place in the honours list; depending on the division, it may be less prestigious. But it’s still a title…


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Rull43 |

2 month ago

I’ve just found out that the teams get bonuses 😅


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Deck |

2 month ago

It’s not the teams, but rather one player per team.
Strange for a team competition, but oh well…
But yes, I don’t see why that would only apply to Division 1


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Le saint |

2 month ago

Do whatever you like 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Anyway, VF’s money doesn’t belong to anyone 😂😂😂😂
As for me, I’m just happy to play, that’s all 🚶🏽‍♂️🚶🏽‍♂️🚶🏽‍♂️


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lorenzo861 |

2 month ago

Interesting idea!! And certainly something A45 could implement.

That’s constructive compared to the dozens of threads where people compare VF to FIFA, where you can start the game with Barça. Although VF is getting closer to that...

Another idea: that the admins could close non-constructive threads straight away… that would make room for the relevant threads that get lost amongst the rest…


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Misha |

2 month ago

This bonus is a bad idea. So we might as well let everyone benefit from it. 😅


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Galywat |

2 month ago

I can’t find the bonus I need. But yes, in that case, we might as well redistribute it with the d2s and d3s.


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Ali_Cool |

2 month ago

This prize will increase competition amongst all clubs in the Entente 123, rather than limiting it to the top flight.


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Blagoje Vidinic |

2 month ago

Just to remind you, this is an award that will go to the best club in each league, not the best of them all; so as far as increasing competition is concerned, we won’t be any closer to that tomorrow than we are today.


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Blagoje Vidinic Pour rappel, c'est une récompense qui échoira au meilleur club de chaque entente pas au meilleur d'entre tous donc pour ce qùi est d'augmenter la compétition, …

Ali_Cool |

2 month ago

I know that this bonus will be awarded to the member who has earned the most points in each agreement.

However, I don’t understand why the D2 and D3 agreements are not eligible. They, too, deserve to be rewarded for their efforts.


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Jason40 |

2 month ago

But does that mean we don’t care about Divisions 4 and 5? It’s all very well wanting fairness, but it has to apply to everyone, not just when it suits us. Still, I agree with you on this point.


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dudziak |

2 month ago

After all, it’s not this bonus that’s going to make much difference to the agreements


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Ali_Cool |

2 month ago

On the contrary, this bonus will intensify competition within the leagues.

This bonus will certainly encourage many members to join the top-flight leagues to take advantage of this benefit


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Ali_Cool Au contraire, cette prime va renforcer la compétition au sein des ententes. Cette prime va certainement pousser de nombreux membres à rejoindre les ententes de…

Rull43 |

2 month ago

Blimey, if a bloke joins a league just to finish top of his league, just for 10 million 🤣

So your request that the rules be the same across all leagues, in all divisions, is legitimate and I support it, but you shouldn’t just say any old thing to justify it. 😅

And I don’t know of many leagues that would accept that sort of manager. That’s not why you join a league.


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Rull43 Puree si un mec postule ds une entente ds le but de finir 1er de son entente, juste pour 10 millions 🤣 Alors ta demande que cela soit idem ds toutes les enten…

gweltaz29 |

2 month ago

At the Union Étoilée, that must be the perfect way to rake in 10 million if the measure’s rolled out for everyone ^^

Nothing but clowns ^^

Oops...


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boss37 |

2 month ago

I’m in favour of this being extended to all divisions within the leagues, even if it means the amounts are scaled according to the division.
The largest bonus for D1, with the bonus decreasing for each division.
This could help and motivate the teams and leagues.
100% of the proposed amount for D1
80% for D2
60% for D3
40% for D4
20% for D5
Here is my proposal


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gweltaz29 |

2 month ago

Hello ^^

I’m going to give my opinion even though nobody asked for it :)

As far as I’m concerned, this whole thing is a massive farce; offering bonuses to the top clubs in each D1 division is a bloody ***** idea :)

Actually, I’m really worried ^^

I’m sure some of the top teams from the D2 and D3 leagues will want to take up the challenge and boost their end-of-season takings

Anyway, I don’t know if you lot think 10 million is a significant amount or not, but yes, I reckon some will move to Division 1 leagues…

There you go!


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k3vin59218 |

2 month ago

No, but seriously, 10M per member of just ONE alliance – that’s nothing! It just adds a bit of competition between members, and for that, it’s a very good idea.

Will members of alliances 2 and 3 move up to alliance 1? Perhaps, but I doubt it, and even if that were the case, it would only strengthen those alliances!

As for the lower divisions, it would be normal for them to be included in this challenge as well


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Blagoje Vidinic |

2 month ago

It’s 10 million for the best team in each agreement, not 10 million for each member of the best team.


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k3vin59218 |

2 month ago

Yes, sorry, there was a mistake in my message 😅


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maradonald |

2 month ago

D2 and D3, but not D4 and D5? Why?


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Ali_Cool |

2 month ago

The same goes for 4 and 5


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gweltaz29 |

2 month ago

I do have one question, though: for you D1 league members, is 10 million a lot?

And another question: would that still motivate some people to give their all in the IE and thus reignite the title race in D1?


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maradonald |

2 month ago

In your original proposal (which I support), you suggest up to D3. And in your previous post, the same. Up to D3.
Why is that?
Because your team is in Division 3 and you’re no longer interested in the lower divisions, right?
Thanks, and enjoy the game.


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gweltaz29 |

2 month ago

I completely agree with you ^^

Having known Ali, he’s just a pathetic bloke who only thinks about money...

He’s greedy for it ^^

He only thinks about his own interests, and after just six months on the game he thinks he’s better than lads who’ve been here since 2007...

There you go

We should charge people for creating posts lol


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Demi-cerveau |

2 month ago

Cost of setting up an alliance in d5: 5 million.
So you need to be careful if the bonuses extend all the way to d5. There are certainly plenty of oddballs who would be capable of setting up 30 clubs, getting them to form 30 alliances of which they would be the sole members, just to make a bit of money....


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Rull43 |

2 month ago

Good point...


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Le saint |

2 month ago

So in this game, only the D1s are honest???
LOL 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


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Le saint Donc dans ce jeu y'a que les D1 qui sont honnêtes ??? LOL 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Demi-cerveau |

2 month ago

Absolutely not. But I reckon a phantom deal with a single phantom club that plays 0 games has a better chance of staying in Division 5 than of making it to Division 1.
Lol!


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Demi-cerveau Absolument pas. Mais je pense qu'une entente fantôme avec un unique club fantôme qui jouerait 0 ie a plus de chance de rester en D5 que d'arriver en D1. Lol !

Le saint |

2 month ago

I’d asked for them to be removed, but it says nobody minded them


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gweltaz29 |

2 month ago

Luckily, I’m not very rich ^^


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Galywat |

2 month ago

Join a D1 alliance and you’ll get a 10M bonus :p

More seriously, do you really think people are going to join a specific alliance just for that 10M? It seems unrealistic to me. Extending this to the lower divisions could cause problems, as demi said.

Don’t forget that new revenue is inevitably offset by additional expenditure. Personally, I’d even scrap that 10m. The honours list might be enough, and there’s no real problem with extending it to everyone.


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Galywat Rejoins une entente de d1, t'as une prime de 10M :p Plus sérieusement vous pensez vraiment que des gens vont rejoindre une entente spécifique pour ces 10M ? Ca…

gweltaz29 |

2 month ago

Well, I was just wondering if 10 million was a lot for you giants 😔

After 6 months playing the game, I’ve barely got 2 million in my bank account lol

So maybe for you lot, 10 million is peanuts, but if we scale that up to d5, then yes, there’ll be cheating ^^

Maybe reduce the bounty, to something like 500k? ;)


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Galywat |

2 month ago

Let’s say that 10M is no small sum. But for a team in Division 1, aiming for that isn’t something that’s going to fundamentally change their club.

500k in Division 5 is very little, really very little, bearing in mind that it’s supposedly intended for teams capable of picking up a few points. Given that it’s one per agreement, I really struggle to see the point of it.


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hazard14 |

2 month ago

Obviously, for the big 10m players, it’s a drop in the ocean…
I honestly don’t see the point of these 10m players – whether you’ve got 10m or not, you’re still fighting for your place in the team, full stop.


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gweltaz29 |

2 month ago

Thanks for answering my question, mate ;)


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Radio |

2 month ago

A storm in a teacup!

We’re talking here about a paltry bonus for a potential D1 league champion!

I reckon you’re lacking a bit of perspective and experience on VF Ali, but you’re never short of a good bit of controversy on the forum 🙂‍↕️

Take the time to build your team and play by the established rules before constantly trying to overhaul something you’ve only just begun to grasp; this will allow you to gain experience and insight into the game, as well as build your reputation as a manager.

Experience counts for a lot here; never forget that on your long journey through VF 🙏🏼


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Ali_Cool |

2 month ago

Perhaps this bonus seems paltry to you and to the wealthy clubs in Division 1,
but it would be of real value to the clubs in the leagues looking to progress.

As president of a league, I’m not looking to stir up controversy; I’m simply defending my league’s interests 😉

I’m not asking for millions for everyone, but for a fairer rewards system.
If bonuses already exist in other competitions, such as the league,
why not extend them to league-based competitions?


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Ali_Cool Peut etre que cette prime te parait dérisoire ainsi qu'aux clubs riches de D1 mais elle aurait une réelle valeur pour les clubs des ententes qui cherchent à pr…

Radio |

2 month ago

It would be interesting for just one club per division under a single agreement, but we’re a long way from a far-reaching reform designed to address a supposed breach of fairness in the VF. That’s only to be expected, though – you pull the blanket over to your side; everyone does it.

But just like in The Matrix, the day you realise that the blanket doesn’t exist, your mind will be set free.

It’s raining in a bowl, I tell you!


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Radio Ce serait intéressant pour un seul club d'une seule entente par division, on est loin d'une réforme en profondeur afin de pallier à une prétendue rupture d'équ…

Ali_Cool |

2 month ago

Everyone has their own opinion,
and I’ve simply expressed mine.

The final decision rests with the game’s creator. 😉


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Ali_Cool Chacun a son avis Et j'ai simplement exprimé le mien. La décision finale appartient au créateur du jeu. 😉

Radio |

2 month ago

You’re expressing your opinion, and we have ours too.

If you want support from the community, start by respecting it and the framework within which we all operate.

The reforms you’re proposing ultimately always serve your own interests or those of your group. This is a far cry from thinking about the common good.

PS: the 😉 are pointless here; I’m not a sex worker from Marrakech...


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luffy28 |

2 month ago

Hello, I’ve only been here for two weeks, and seeing your comment is appalling; it’s unacceptable that your comment should go unnoticed. I hope you’ll apologise, and that the game’s developers will take disciplinary action against you.
Comments like that have no place here.
You’re disgusting; it’s despicable.


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luffy28 Bonjour, je suis nouveau depuis 2 semaines, et voir ton commentaire est ignoble, c’est inadmissible que ton commentaire passe inaperçu. J’espère des excuses de…

luffy28 |

2 month ago

I personally feel offended by the comments made by this idiot. This sort of insulting generalisation is unacceptable.

I hope the site owners and the moderation team will take appropriate action and remind everyone that respect for individuals and communities must remain a fundamental rule on this forum. The same goes for the two people who liked the post (rull43 and gweltaz29).


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Radio Tu exprimes ton avis, et on a aussi le nôtre. Si tu souhaites obtenir du soutien de la part de la communauté, commence par la respecter ainsi que le cadre dans…

Radio |

2 month ago

The Board of Directors of Helios Toulon offers its sincerest apologies for the ill-chosen remarks made by its coach, Radio, during a discussion following today’s victory, and reaffirms its support and affection for the entire community of self-employed workers, as well as for the vibrant city of Marrakech.

The words used during this discussion were intended, above all, to soften the reality of a profession that is often singled out by society, despite being vital to its smooth functioning. We pay tribute to all those who, through the sweat of their brow, keep the world’s oldest profession alive.

An extraordinary meeting will take place tomorrow in the presence of the manager so that we may review the events together and decide on the next steps to take following this regrettable misunderstanding. His position within the organisation is, however, not in question.

Finally, we would like to thank the admin team for their leniency and understanding,

The Board of Directors of Helios Toulon


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Radio Le Conseil d'Administration du Helios Toulon exprime ses plus sincères excuses suite aux propos maladroits de son entraîneur Radio lors d'un débat en marge de …

Le saint |

2 month ago

🚶🏽‍♂️🚶🏽‍♂️🚶🏽‍♂️


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Tazz26 |

2 month ago

Clearly, this bonus isn’t a reform that’s going to fundamentally change the game. It adds a bit of spice to the inter-team dynamics and puts a bit more money into the game. I can’t see any downsides. Given the scale of the reform and what we know about how much the Game Master values our opinions, I don’t see the point in giving my views on this reform. It could perhaps be improved… loopholes for cheating would be easily closed if the bonus were lower than the cost of forming an alliance.
A sliding-scale bonus per division: 10/8/6/4/2. Earning points is also appealing, given how difficult it is to earn them these days. So, that’s what I think ^^


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Nicolas-2008 |

2 month ago

I also feel that this new measure favours the wealthiest.

I would find it more logical if it were applied to all divisions on a pro rata basis, to give smaller teams or clubs a chance.


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michbou |

2 month ago

Let’s not get into a row, shall we? 🙉🙈


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Lebaygue |

2 month ago

Real savages!!!! Or rather, little savages – the young ones of the savages.


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Rull43 |

2 month ago

You’re the one who deserves to be punished for the number of insults in such a short space.


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gweltaz29 |

2 month ago

I was absolutely stunned to discover my username 🤣

What exactly is he accusing us of?
Did he feel targeted by the term ‘sex worker’?


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Radio |

2 month ago

What a time.


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dudziak |

2 month ago

I’ve always found it funny that it’s always a newcomer who steps in to defend the widow and the orphan


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Kevlor |

2 month ago

The outcome of this discussion... A pointless new French version


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Blagoje Vidinic |

2 month ago

So, how are we getting on with the community goals? 😁


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gweltaz29 |

2 month ago

It’s been a long time since we’ve had any :(

Rather than getting all worked up about it here, why don’t we just campaign for a community goal? ^^


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Tchub |

2 month ago

He lost his knickers on the first one… he won’t dare throw another one, given that we were supposedly going to have them on a regular basis.


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gweltaz29 Ça fait longtemps qu'on en a plus eu :( Sinon au lieu de tous ce prendre la tête ici, on a qu'à militer pour avoir un objectif communautaire non ? ^^

Le saint |

2 month ago

Without sex workers 😂😂😂


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Le saint Sans les travailleuses du sexe 😂😂😂

gweltaz29 |

2 month ago

I got a fine yesterday for less than that 🤣🤣

But I had a good laugh 🤣🤣


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jul068 |

2 month ago

Unfortunately, I don’t have time to read it all – the schedule is tight. I need to catch the helicopter to the airport, then take the association’s jet to pick up our organiser, Tbar, who’s been scouting locations in the Maldives for our AGM, which is to be held there. Lorenzo, our chairman, wants it to be spectacular; there’s loads of cash in the accounts, so we’ve got to blow the budget before the end of the season.
The helicopter’s a right pain; I’m getting absolutely fed up with it… I’d much rather go in the club’s Bugatti Chiron, but it’s in for a service in Molsheim. I’d told Lolo to get two of them to avoid this sort of hassle.
Right, I’ll leave you to it – I’ve got Hazard on the line who also wants to go to the Auberge de l’Ill to prepare for the match with the national team. He found Drake’s invoices lying around in the office...

Have a good weekend, and may the cash flow freely 😘


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myforsans |

2 month ago

Thank you for all this encouraging news, Mr Treasurer.

Tell me, I’ve just returned from the fitness camp held on our private island in the Bahamas, and I realise I’ll need 150 M,

I’ve just signed a 35-year-old level 20 free agent; please let me know which of the 20 multi-accounts managed by our chairman could buy him for between 180 and 200 M, so that that’ll leave me a bit of leeway to upgrade my infirmary from level 9 to level 10.


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authentik54 |

2 month ago

So much for his idea.

Simple and effective. I don’t care how he goes about it.

A bit of poo in a silk handkerchief is still just a bit of poo.

A delicious meal on a plastic plate is still a delicious meal.

Well done, Ali – I hope it sees the light of day.


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Ritter |

2 month ago

Well, why not? It’s an idea, but I think there are other improvements that are far more urgent than coming up with rewards that the big clubs couldn’t care less about.

I don’t see how that would improve the game.


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