Nicularo |
10 month agoHello Aymeric, hello the community.
It's been a week now since we entered "VF 2.0"; the VF where anything goes, the VF of cheating, money transfers, multi accounts, in short the VF that we don't want to see.
The VF that makes this kind of club possible: Deleted club
And who makes these kinds of transfers possible:
39-year-old free agent, NG 15, sold for 3.8M to a 10-day-old club
Free 23 year old, NG 18, sold for 4M to a club 10 days old
Free of 39 years old, NG 18, sold 6.5M to a club 7 days old
Free 23 year old, NG 17, sold 5.6M to a 7 day old club
Free 33 year old, NG 13, sold 6.5M to a club 7 days old
Free 36 year old, NG 12, sold for 6M to a club 7 days old
Free 39 year old, NG 13, sold for 3.7M to a 9 day old club
Free 33 year old, NG 15, sold 6.3M to a 7 day old club
Free 39 year old, NG 18, sold 6.6M to a 7 day old club
Free 23 year old, NG 43, sold 6.4M to a club 9 days old
A total of 55.4M generated thanks to 10 multi-accounts that benefited from level 1 aid.
I can also add this transfer to AS Monaco: D. Walker bought for 180K
And this one: R. Bosma sold for 3M to the same AS Monaco.
In short, the possibilities are endless.
Note the similarity of the buying clubs, with related creation dates and identical connection times, which makes it easy to confirm the use of multi-accounting.
image](https://i.imgur.com/p1I4tyT.png)

The hardest thing about VF now is keeping an up-to-date Excel file, with logins and passwords, as well as a VPN to connect to Aruba, Bangladesh and Albania... Each account has its own country, which is fun!
So, Aymeric, I'm sorry to sound the alarm, but what are we doing about this phenomenon, which is only going to get worse? We knew it was going to happen like this, but here we are...
Thank you and have a nice day
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Rull43 |
10 month agoit just makes you puke.
Thank you Nicu for bringing this up, even if I'm not sure it will help, you're right to try.
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Steven12 |
10 month agoIf a former admin, who previously sanctioned and banned several clubs, now allows himself to buy an NG99 goalkeeper for 1 million, then everything's fine. Given that it's legal now, we can't help but take note. But I can only imagine for a moment how the clubs he banned would react to seeing him make such a purchase today.
NB: this is in no way an accusation or anything, just an observation.
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Zeus |
10 month agoYes, just like in real life xD
some people are condemned for things that weren't punished hundreds of years ago ^^
But as you say, it's tolerated now. Which is great, because it encourages people to help each other :P
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Blagoje Vidinic |
10 month agoWe follow the rules: when transfers were supervised, we could cancel those that were under- or over-valued and penalise repeat offenders.
Today, there is no floor or ceiling, so any transfer amount is considered legal. Those who have been penalised in the past, or anyone else for that matter, should not be offended that a former director can buy a GAC 99 for 1 million under the current rules, as it has nothing to do with his former position and the decisions he may have taken.
This kind of acerbic comment which, despite the NB, has nothing to do with an observation because of the choice of words used which imply too many things ("a former admin who sanctioned so much", "takes advantage", etc.) does nothing to improve the situation whether we like it or not.
Thank you for keeping the discussion constructive.
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Exoda |
10 month agoGood evening Blagoje,
I'm not disputing the rules in any way, and I'll respect them whatever happens. However, I wanted to ask you for a clarification: are these rules not retroactive, i.e. can't members who have been penalised for these previous illegalities (and who are no longer penalised today) be returned to their normal status before the fraud?
Thank you for your work and thanks in advance for your reply!
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Blagoje Vidinic |
10 month agoNo, the current regulations, like the laws of the Republic, have no retroactive effect.
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bunrocel |
9 month agoI'm sorry Blagoje, but I have to contradict you. Some French laws are retroactive. I'm experiencing this at a professional level. And I'm taking the liberty of intervening because I'm so drunk that I've seen the current results of the club that is FC Smog's big brother, I'm talking about FC Liverpool.
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zejl |
10 month agoHi
And what if the objective was to leave things alone?
99% of players honestly want to play this game.
Do we really want to keep wasting the admins' time?
At some point, all these multi-accounts are going to merge into a single account, so why not wait and punish them only afterwards?
As a result, the guy will have spent a lot of time for nothing and the admins will only have spent time once to punish him.
You can't ask volunteer admins to monitor movements 24/24 unless you replace them with an ia.
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Arsène |
10 month agoHello,
"And what if the objective was just to let it be?
99% of players want to play this game honestly."
Let it spoil the game? Yes, you may be right, that would mean that the creator no longer cares about his game.
For the 99%, when you see this kind of decision, it can drive you crazy. I took advantage of it on a small transfer, but it saddens me.
I thought we were playing a management game... so what's there to manage, Aymeric? This kind of decision is more of a mood killer than anything else... I'll stop here, there's no point, we can't hear each other anyway ^^
Bonne journée
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zejl |
10 month agoSo maybe I wasn't clear.
When I say let him do it, I don't mean react in the moment but rather let the guy do it in the first instance, let him spend hours accumulating millions and then punish him in the second so that it's not the admins who waste hours closing accounts piecemeal, but rather that we attack the final account, the one that will hurt him and that he'll say fuck it, I've spent hours going over my head making multis, I've finally got a rich club and now I'm starting again from zero, then we'd have an effective punishment.
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King |
10 month agoHe should at least have found a nickname other than mine ^^
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Pierabou |
10 month agokiki-sainté |
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Nicularo |
10 month agoNo Akram, I didn't suspect you!
I saw your purchases, which were made from a list, so they were first come, first served.
On the other hand, I told you that reselling them immediately afterwards, for 3 times nothing, WOULD be suspicious. 8 days ago you would have had your transfers cancelled, but now it's fine. I'm not hunting down cheap or overpriced sales, I'm just on the lookout for multi-accounts, and I didn't say anything about that to you :p
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King |
10 month agoPtdrr wait until I get my 2MM back and I buy vf again 😂😂😅
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Misha |
10 month agoBut that's solidarity, we told you! Many honest level 1 clubs donate their entire bank to another club for no reason. Just philanthropy!
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Levi |
10 month agoI have 5M who wants?
I'll gladly trade for a 10NG
😌😌😌
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lens59 |
10 month agoMERWAN |
10 month agoPierabou |
10 month agoThe fines will come from everywhere, you're crazy.
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Jallow |
10 month agoThe number of registrations per day has doubled 😅
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bluethunders26 |
10 month agoAnd every day there are blockages as a result of multis or intra-ip transfers.
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OMstar83 |
10 month agoAre there still people who don't know how to get round this? Rooooh
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Ancelloti |
10 month agoYou just have to look for two mates 😂😂 or mm one is enough.
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kiki-sainté |
10 month agoYes, because I don't think it's logical to cheat on a game that's basically there to entertain you.
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OMstar83 |
10 month agoThat's not the point ^^
I was just saying that everything is so simple these days, and that's even more so. After that, some people don't need it. They've had a multi or more for many years. We know it's a multi, but it's their wife, cousin, grandfather, etc. It's not a multi.
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6francs72 |
10 month agoWhen I started the game there was no such thing as clubs with double accounts, I stopped for personal reasons and I've been playing again for a while now, it's become a disaster, there's no logic to it anymore, when I started playing again a lot of friends who still have accounts don't play anymore but connect once in a while so as not to lose their billions, but they warned me "you're going to get bored with the game, it's been abandoned for a while" 😅
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jagolee |
10 month agoIt’s very sad, when I started playing as well there was no such thing as multi account, I lost both accounts recently to this rule even though I never interacted between both clubs. It’s so sad seeing the game like thus
myforsans |
10 month agoNicularo, I don't post anything on the forum because I've heard that this kind of denunciation shouldn't be made in public, but I've seen (somewhat by chance) much worse than what you rightly denounce above!
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bluethunders26 |
10 month agoI think it's more an observation due to the free market that he wants to make to the MDJ.
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salug |
10 month agoI had decided to get back into the game after having stopped playing for 4 years, but I don't think I made the right choice.
Because the transfers announced here by Nicularo are more than bizarre.
If you look hard enough you can come across this kind of transfer too, which is more than bizarre.
virtuafoot.com/#joueur?jid=544682 NG 35 potential 50. 50M
virtuafoot.com/#player?jid=613633 NG 5th potential 55 50M
Virtuafoot.com/#club?uid=68131&transfers
I don't want to put it all here, this is just an example
Good evening and good games I stop
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Galywat |
10 month agoBut no, everything is under control, there are ways of detecting multiple accounts, everything has been anticipated, so there's no need to worry.
And what's the point of having multiple accounts? It's well known that new clubs don't get any help.
The game has even become more popular with lots of new players, what do the people expect?
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Zeus |
10 month agoEverything's under control, it's just that the Ouin-Ouin camp have decided to make a drama out of it because they're so fixated on it, it's so childish of them,
Especially as some of those who are complaining about it have done some very extreme things in the past, not to mention some very un-Catholic things.
Thank you Aymeric for having deregulated this aberrant market, which will now help to revive the dynamic that was essential to the game.
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Demi-cerveau |
10 month agoNaughty woo-woo's from Galywat, Nicularo, Morten, Jeff, Socrate, Demi (yeah, I'll throw in my two cents while I'm at it!)!
You, who have done so many ungodly things to the game in the recent past! (Like making it run since 2020. Before that, I don't know!).
Shame on you! It's a good thing the great Zeus, aka Lightning, is here to set the record straight!
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Zeus |
10 month agoYes, thank you Demi ;) Big Zeus is always right mouahahahahahah
But you, galy are not considered members of the Ouin-Ouin camp :D

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jul068 |
10 month agoAfter that, when you're the only one who thinks you know the truth... you have to ask yourself some questions.
Demi, you can add me to the gypsy camp 😁
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Zeus |
10 month agomichbou |
10 month agoAren't you fed up with all the criticism and politics?
It's a free game with no obligation to buy, so think more about having fun than cheating or anything else to be first on the list of winners, there's no glory to be gained by cheating except that of cowards.
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Beber |
10 month agoHello,
Quick question: how many new accounts or managers have there been since these new rules were introduced?
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Demi-cerveau |
10 month agoHello.
On another subject, someone said that at the start of the season, following the deletion of inactive clubs, we had gone from 7200 to 3630.
There are now 5600 registered clubs.
So, roughly speaking, that's 2,000 new accounts since the start of the season.
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Marcus Aurelius |
10 month agoDemi-cerveau |
10 month agoSummerTime |
10 month agoAll that doesn't mean you won't find cheaters in the general club rankings, I suppose. Correct me if I'm wrong. The legends, the LDC winners ... It will always be honest clubs.
If I'm wrong, I'm out of the game right now xD
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junior |
10 month agoOf course not
How many cheated to win a cup or championship?
How many have forgotten to field a team to favour a player..... Do not believe that all clubs are clean ....
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SummerTime |
10 month agoI'm staying for the pleasure of playing after all xD
I don't know, but I don't really mind cheaters... There will always be some in any online game.
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kiki-sainté |
10 month agoAnd of the 2000, how many have already given up? I'd say 1000 easy, so 1000 more afk.
As a note, there are 1000 left, so that's something.
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Beber |
10 month agoOK, thanks for the info about increasing the number of new accounts!
But I think I would have done the same as aymeric, with this change in rules, if I had wanted to make my game more attractive and increase the number of managers (even if there are multis). The only reason for this would have been to make my game more attractive and increase the number of managers (even if there are multis).
And then I find that the positive and negative balance of this change of rules is not quite balanced and it still leans to the negative side despite this mutual aid wanted by the designer of the game!
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sebi99 |
10 month agoI think the new VF is great, all that's missing now are the frees like in the past and the game will be perfect again :D
Thanks aymeric! ♡
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AURORA |
10 month agoAre we talking about a certain level 10 who buys players for 35 million and then sells them for 1 million to his cartel buddies? MDR
PITOYABLE
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Zeus |
10 month agoThis is fully authorised by the rules, which have been updated to reflect this ;)
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Blagoje Vidinic |
10 month agoThank you for keeping up the constructive exchange.
As it happens, that's exactly what Aymeric wanted when he deregulated transfer fees: to encourage mutual aid.
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michbou |
10 month agoAURORA |
10 month agoAnd I've read it
That doesn't mean that everything will be accepted :p
It's there in black and white
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Zeus |
10 month agoI invite you to read it. As stipulated in the rules, there are no longer any limits on the amount, so you can sell a 99NG for 1M.
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AURORA |
10 month agoBrutus |
10 month agoJust in case, if there are any #kikiveulentfavourlentraide in my favour, I can sell you 250M players... don't hesitate to PM me ;)
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junior |
10 month agoIt's useless, money has no value in the end.
If an agreement is well managed, they can do business with each other, like a parallel market without ever exceeding a million for example, it just takes a little time to set it up.
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Brutus |
10 month agoWell, if you buy a player for 35M and sell him for 1M (to generalise)... after a while... the money will quickly decrease on VF so it will be all the more important... (perhaps deliberately so)!
And that's not all that matters... training has become subtle... with CdF leaving at J1 or 25 or 55...
After that, creating this free market... everything comes into play... at the end of the day, I think it's going to increase the price of players by reducing bank accounts ;)
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myforsans |
10 month agoEven if the transfer in question is legal (and has been for some time, so why bother), that shouldn't stop some people from legitimately considering that it's inappropriate, especially when it's done by a 'lesson giver' who's constantly playing the 'Mr Virtue' card.
But that's life, it's simply comparable to certain politicians who are specialists in "do as I say but don't do as I do".
NB: I don't agree that all the laws of the Republic are non-retroactive: this is indeed the general case, but there are many exceptions.
Classic examples:
- likely to become topical in the near future: an amending finance act (LFR) which amends the initial finance act (LFI) during the course of the year in order to recalculate taxes due on income received on a date when the law affected it differently.
- the best known: the so-called "milder" criminal laws When the death penalty was abolished, a person who had been sentenced to death on a date when the law allowed it but who had not yet been executed on the date of publication of the law could no longer be executed, which therefore retroactively cancelled his death sentence.
In short, we could imagine on VF that if we return to more reason on the regulation of transfers and that a price framework is reinstated, it is decided that all transfers that become fraudulent again with the new rules lead to the cancellation of transfers made at the time when they were free (hello work for the admins, ... but it is legally possible).
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Socrate |
10 month agoHe sold it for 1M, not bought it.
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Demi-cerveau |
10 month agoFinally someone who knows his colours! Green for sales, red for purchases. Thanks for your time.
For our colour-blind friends, just click on the player to get better information 👍 !
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Pierabou |
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Steven12 |
10 month agoIf the VF laws were retroactive, I'd be impatient to see the responses from these banned clubs when I saw this former admin who punished them without any real evidence for the same offences.
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El_Sombrero |
9 month agoI assure you, he's not the only former admin to use this method
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Blagoje Vidinic |
9 month agoIt's one of two things: either we stop attacking the probity of a former admin out of vengeance, or I'm going to penalise any managers who continue to post similar messages despite this warning.
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Leguman |
10 month ago1 - The Loi de finances rectificative (LFR) is itself described as a law of exception.myforsans : NB: I don't agree that all the laws of the Republic are non-retroactive: This is indeed the general case, but there are many exceptions.
Classic examples:
1 likely to become topical soon: an amending finance act (LFR) which amends the initial finance act (LFI) during the course of the year in order to recalculate taxes due on income received on a date when the law affected it differently.
2 the best known: the so-called "milder" criminal laws Thus when the death penalty was abolished, a person who had been sentenced to death on a date when the law allowed it but who had not yet been executed on the date of publication of the law could no longer be executed, which therefore retroactively annulled his death sentence.
I would add that retroactivity is extremely exceptional in French law, and mainly concerns administrative law.
2 - Euh ... NO!!! .... there is total confusion and misunderstanding.
There is, on the one hand, a sentence and, on the other, the execution of that sentence.
The abolition of the death penalty, promulgated in 1981, rendered the execution of previously pronounced sentences null and void, and as with all laws, implementing decrees are promulgated to cover all possible cases.
In this case, the death sentence handed down in previous judgements has been commuted to life imprisonment.
A person sentenced to death remains a person sentenced to death (in his criminal record), it is the execution of the sentence that has been 'adapted' in accordance with the decree implementing the law in force.
=> Under no circumstances can we talk about retroactivity.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peine_de_mort_en_France
I would appreciate it if Robert Badinter, recently pantheonised, were left out of our
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Badinter
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myforsans |
10 month agoYes, if the more lenient criminal laws are indeed retroactive, whether it's the question of the execution of the sentence, as in the case of the death penalty, or any other, including for offences that have not yet been judged.
Let me give you another example, since this one doesn't suit you.
On Monday I'm flashed while driving at 100 kph on a road limited to 80 kph.
Tuesday the Highway Code changes and now allows you to drive at 110 on this road
On Wednesday, the radar report showing me driving at 100 km/h is sent to the gendarmerie, who send it to me.
The following week I challenged the decision in court (so, by hypothesis, it was noted but not yet judged, so it's not a problem with the execution of the sentence).
Well, the text that appeared on Tuesday is retroactive for the continuation of my offence committed on Monday at a time when it was prohibited, so I no longer risk anything.
Let me transpose:
A clever chap donates a player or sells one at a similar low price (I sell a goalkeeper worth 30 to a 'friend' for 1 million) on the last day of last season, when it was prohibited. It's identified by an admin on the 2nd day of the current season, when it became authorised, so it's no longer reprehensible.
retroactively, even though it was done on a date when it was prohibited.
In other words, the litany of player donations that took place on the very first day of the season could just as easily have been made the day before.
That's why it's wrong to say that all laws are never retroactive.
The principle is that they aren't, but they can be in many cases, even if I agree that this is considered an exception.
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Leguman |
10 month agoI only intervened because you invoked the death penalty. I took the time to weigh up each of my words carefully.
[Yes, if the more lenient criminal laws are indeed retroactive, whether it's the question of the execution of the sentence, as in the case of the death penalty, or any other, including for offences that have not yet been tried.
So I'll give you another example since this one doesn't suit you[/quote].
You talk about "softer" criminal laws, and you cite the abolition of the death penalty, which required a change in the constitution ...
You then say "untried offences": it is obvious that if the legislator changes the law, the judicial authority will judge according to the new law (provided that an implementing decree is promulgated).
It's not that the example doesn't suit ME (I'm not following anything or anyone), it's just that it's factually incorrect.
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myforsans |
10 month agoYou say
it is obvious that if the legislator amends the law, the judicial authority will judge according to the new text of the law (provided that an implementing decree is promulgated).
But not at all, the principle is that cases are judged according to the laws in force at the time of the facts, with the exception of retroactivity.
Let's assume (fictitiously) that a law passed on 2 January 2026 abolishes the obligation to hold an interview when making a dismissal.
In 2025, an employer dismissed an employee without a prior interview
In 2026, the case is heard by the industrial tribunal under the law applicable in 2025, which required an interview to be held at the time, and the dismissal is deemed to be unfair, whereas it would not have been if the law of 2 January 2026 had existed in 2025.
There's no point in adding to the confusion over the question of the implementing decree.
I'm obviously talking about an applicable law, not a law whose decree has not yet been promulgated.
So we cannot say: all laws are retroactive
any more than you can say: no law is retroactive.
I would remind you that I was only reacting to that point.
The reality is that in French law, there is one principle: laws are not retroactive
but there are exceptions (many) where they are.
So if the VF rules change and transfers are once again regulated (which is what the vast majority want, except for the profiteers or the two or three 'professional provocateurs' who systematically dispute, with a spirit of superiority, for fun or for sport, every time I say something), well, the author of the new rules could just as easily specify that this regulation is retroactive or that it is not retroactive (which would make it possible, or not, to punish the donations of players from the past when they were tolerated).
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raoul62 |
10 month agoAnd we're only on day 12 of the new (de)regulations. 🤣🥳
It looks promising.
There's sure to be a lot of excitement and "solidarity". 😇
Long live cheating.
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sergent jeff |
9 month ago14 days have gone by for some 100k transfers and then we send the player to auction...
I'm starting to like the idea of this new Vf.
Help first!
😂 😂 😂
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Nikzer |
9 month agoIt's n'imp!
Here's an example of a nice mule who pays for her general youth round at 83/85 pot...
image](https://i.imgur.com/Tfg0nRu.jpeg)
You'd be surprised that selling at market price no longer sells 😅
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maxence97300 |
9 month agoThe same club that shouted loud and clear a few weeks ago "Mé pourqkwa jeu sui citai sur un sujé de multy contes" 😂 now that everything is "legal" the club is empty and has stopped playing, at least on this club ^^'.
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Sun's |
9 month agoA multiplayer that costs over 150 quid in the vfstore...but of course...
It was just a former vf fan who wanted to speed things up, and didn't like the direction vf was taking this season.
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myforsans |
9 month agoSad evolution of the game.
No matter how hard I look, I can't see any advantage in this kind of practice being 'legalised'.
Can anyone here explain why they think it's a good thing that a club (I hope it's not a multi-account club, because apparently they're now being tracked down) can sell all its players at 1m to two clubs (in this case from the same agreement, but that's probably just a coincidence).
Not to mention the fact that you have to wonder how such a club could have built up such a large pool of players in just 3 months?
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minadinho |
9 month agoIf it helps you myfo, he wanted to save the admi time 😁
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raoul62 |
9 month ago18th day of practice. 🥳
You can't stop progress!
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leakcim58 |
9 month agoMaxence, it's a family agreement, it's normal!
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