Hello Aymeric, hello the community.

It's been a week now since we entered "VF 2.0"; the VF where anything goes, the VF of cheating, money transfers, multi accounts, in short the VF that we don't want to see.

The VF that makes this kind of club possible: Deleted club
And who makes these kinds of transfers possible:
39-year-old free agent, NG 15, sold for 3.8M to a 10-day-old club
Free 23 year old, NG 18, sold for 4M to a club 10 days old
Free of 39 years old, NG 18, sold 6.5M to a club 7 days old
Free 23 year old, NG 17, sold 5.6M to a 7 day old club
Free 33 year old, NG 13, sold 6.5M to a club 7 days old
Free 36 year old, NG 12, sold for 6M to a club 7 days old
Free 39 year old, NG 13, sold for 3.7M to a 9 day old club
Free 33 year old, NG 15, sold 6.3M to a 7 day old club
Free 39 year old, NG 18, sold 6.6M to a 7 day old club
Free 23 year old, NG 43, sold 6.4M to a club 9 days old

A total of 55.4M generated thanks to 10 multi-accounts that benefited from level 1 aid.

I can also add this transfer to AS Monaco: D. Walker bought for 180K
And this one: R. Bosma sold for 3M to the same AS Monaco.

In short, the possibilities are endless.

Note the similarity of the buying clubs, with related creation dates and identical connection times, which makes it easy to confirm the use of multi-accounting.

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The hardest thing about VF now is keeping an up-to-date Excel file, with logins and passwords, as well as a VPN to connect to Aruba, Bangladesh and Albania... Each account has its own country, which is fun!

So, Aymeric, I'm sorry to sound the alarm, but what are we doing about this phenomenon, which is only going to get worse? We knew it was going to happen like this, but here we are...

Thank you and have a nice day

Hi
And what if the objective was to leave things alone?
99% of players honestly want to play this game.
Do we really want to keep wasting the admins' time?
At some point, all these multi-accounts are going to merge into a single account, so why not wait and punish them only afterwards?
As a result, the guy will have spent a lot of time for nothing and the admins will only have spent time once to punish him.
You can't ask volunteer admins to monitor movements 24/24 unless you replace them with an ia.

Hello,
"And what if the objective was just to let it be?
99% of players want to play this game honestly."

Let it spoil the game? Yes, you may be right, that would mean that the creator no longer cares about his game.
For the 99%, when you see this kind of decision, it can drive you crazy. I took advantage of it on a small transfer, but it saddens me.

I thought we were playing a management game... so what's there to manage, Aymeric? This kind of decision is more of a mood killer than anything else... I'll stop here, there's no point, we can't hear each other anyway ^^

Bonne journée

He should at least have found a nickname other than mine ^^

Arsène: Bonjour,
"Et si l objectif était justement de laisser faire ?
99% des joueurs ont envie de faire ce jeu honnêtement."

Laisser faire pourrir ce jeu ? Oui tu as peut etre raison,, cela voudrait dire que le créateur n'en a plus rien à faire de son jeu..
Pour les 99%, justement quand on voit ce genre de décisions, ca peut rendre dingue. J'en ai profité sur un ptit transfert, mais ca m'attriste

Je pensais que l'on était sur un jeu de gestion...y'a quoi à gerer du coup, dites moi Aymeric ? Ce g...

So maybe I wasn't clear.
When I say let him do it, I don't mean react in the moment but rather let the guy do it in the first instance, let him spend hours accumulating millions and then punish him in the second so that it's not the admins who waste hours closing accounts piecemeal, but rather that we attack the final account, the one that will hurt him and that he'll say fuck it, I've spent hours going over my head making multis, I've finally got a rich club and now I'm starting again from zero, then we'd have an effective punishment.

But that's solidarity, we told you! Many honest level 1 clubs donate their entire bank to another club for no reason. Just philanthropy!

Misha: Non mais c'est de la solidarité, on vous a dit! De nombreux clubs honnêtes de niveau 1 qui donnent toute leur banque à un autre club sans raison. Juste par philanthropie!

I have 5M who wants?
I'll gladly trade for a 10NG
😌😌😌

King: Il aurait au moins du trouver un autre pseudo que le mien ^^

we know it's your evil double!

King: Il aurait au moins du trouver un autre pseudo que le mien ^^

Not so good with multiple accounts 😁😁😁

Pierabou: on sait que c'est ton double maléfique !

Nicu even suspected me 😓

Akram: Nicu m'a même soupçonné moi 😓

No Akram, I didn't suspect you!
I saw your purchases, which were made from a list, so they were first come, first served.
On the other hand, I told you that reselling them immediately afterwards, for 3 times nothing, WOULD be suspicious. 8 days ago you would have had your transfers cancelled, but now it's fine. I'm not hunting down cheap or overpriced sales, I'm just on the lookout for multi-accounts, and I didn't say anything about that to you :p

50M here, I can make 4 teams

I'd rather be blind and deaf on the subject

Nicularo: Bonjour Aymeric, bonjour la communauté.

Cela fait maintenant une semaine que nous sommes entrés dans le "VF 2.0" ; le VF ou tout est permis, le VF de la triche, des transferts de fonds, des multi comptes, bref le VF que l'on ne veut pas voir.

Ce VF qui rend désormais possible ce genre de club : Deleted club
Et qui rend possible ce genre de transferts :
Libre de 39 ans, NG 15, vendu 3.8M à un club âgé de 10 jours
Libre de 23 ans, NG 18, vendu 4M à un club âgé d...

it just makes you puke.

Thank you Nicu for bringing this up, even if I'm not sure it will help, you're right to try.

Nicu admin!

Adrimax: Nicu admin!

The fines will come from everywhere, you're crazy.

The number of registrations per day has doubled 😅

Nicularo, I don't post anything on the forum because I've heard that this kind of denunciation shouldn't be made in public, but I've seen (somewhat by chance) much worse than what you rightly denounce above!

Pierabou: on sait que c'est ton double maléfique !

Ptdrr wait until I get my 2MM back and I buy vf again 😂😂😅

I had decided to get back into the game after having stopped playing for 4 years, but I don't think I made the right choice.
Because the transfers announced here by Nicularo are more than bizarre.
If you look hard enough you can come across this kind of transfer too, which is more than bizarre.
virtuafoot.com/#joueur?jid=544682 NG 35 potential 50. 50M
virtuafoot.com/#player?jid=613633 NG 5th potential 55 50M
Virtuafoot.com/#club?uid=68131&transfers
I don't want to put it all here, this is just an example
Good evening and good games I stop

Jallow: Le nombre d'inscriptions par jour ont doublé 😅

And every day there are blockages as a result of multis or intra-ip transfers.

myforsans: Nicularo, je mets rien en ligne sur le forum parce q'uil parait que ce genre de dénonciation ne doit pas être faite en public mais j'ai vu (un peu par hasard d'ailleurs) bien pire que ce que tu dénonces plus haut à juste titre !

I think it's more an observation due to the free market that he wants to make to the MDJ.

bluethunders26: Et tous les jours il y a des blocages suites aux multis ou transfert intra ip

Are there still people who don't know how to get round this? Rooooh

OMstar83: Y’en a encore qui ne savent pas comment contourner ça ? Rooooh

You just have to look for two mates 😂😂 or mm one is enough.

Adrimax: Nicu admin!

Estac admins!

But no, everything is under control, there are ways of detecting multiple accounts, everything has been anticipated, so there's no need to worry.

And what's the point of having multiple accounts? It's well known that new clubs don't get any help.

The game has even become more popular with lots of new players, what do the people expect?

Everything's under control, it's just that the Ouin-Ouin camp have decided to make a drama out of it because they're so fixated on it, it's so childish of them,
Especially as some of those who are complaining about it have done some very extreme things in the past, not to mention some very un-Catholic things.
Thank you Aymeric for having deregulated this aberrant market, which will now help to revive the dynamic that was essential to the game.

OMstar83: Y’en a encore qui ne savent pas comment contourner ça ? Rooooh

Yes, because I don't think it's logical to cheat on a game that's basically there to entertain you.

Zeus: Tout est sous contrôle, c'est juste que le camp des Ouin-Ouin décide d'un faire un trama parceque ils ont font une fixette c'est tellement puéril de leur part,
Surtout que certains qui se plaignent de cela, ont par le passé fait des choses très limites, voir pas très catholique mdr
Merci aymeric d'avoir déréguler ce marché aberrant et qui maintenant va permettre de relancer la dynamique qui était essentielle au jeu.

Naughty woo-woo's from Galywat, Nicularo, Morten, Jeff, Socrate, Demi (yeah, I'll throw in my two cents while I'm at it!)!

You, who have done so many ungodly things to the game in the recent past! (Like making it run since 2020. Before that, I don't know!).

Shame on you! It's a good thing the great Zeus, aka Lightning, is here to set the record straight!

Demi-cerveau: Vilains Ouin-ouin de Galywat, de Nicularo, de Morten, de Jeff, de Socrate, de Demi (ouais je me rajoute, tant qu'à faire !) !

Vous qui avez fait tant de choses pas très catholiques sur le jeu dans un passé récent !!! (Comme le faire tourner, depuis 2020. Avant, je sais pas !).

Honte à vous ! Heureusement que le grand Zeus, aka la Foudre, est là pour rétablir la vraie vérité !

Yes, thank you Demi ;) Big Zeus is always right mouahahahahahah
But you, galy are not considered members of the Ouin-Ouin camp :D

kiki-sainté: Oui moi car je ne trouve pas ça logique de tricher sur un jeu qui a la base est la pour te divertir

That's not the point ^^
I was just saying that everything is so simple these days, and that's even more so. After that, some people don't need it. They've had a multi or more for many years. We know it's a multi, but it's their wife, cousin, grandfather, etc. It's not a multi.

Zeus: Oui merci Demi ;) Le grand Zeus a toujours raison mouahahahahah
Mais toi, galy n'est pas considéré comme des membres du camps des Ouin-Ouin :D

After that, when you're the only one who thinks you know the truth... you have to ask yourself some questions.

Demi, you can add me to the gypsy camp 😁

jul068: Après quand tu es seul à penser détenir la vérité... c’est qu’il faudrait quand même ce poser certaines questions.

Demi tu peux me rajouter dans le camp des ouinouin 😁

What a disappointment xD

Aren't you fed up with all the criticism and politics?
It's a free game with no obligation to buy, so think more about having fun than cheating or anything else to be first on the list of winners, there's no glory to be gained by cheating except that of cowards.

OMstar83: Ce n’est pas la question ^^
Je disais juste que tout est tellement simple de nos jours, ça d’autant plus. Après, certains n’ont pas besoin de ça. Ils ont un multi ou plus depuis de longues années. On sait que c’en est un mais c’est leur femme, cousin, grand-père, etc. Allez, zou, j’y vais.

When I started the game there was no such thing as clubs with double accounts, I stopped for personal reasons and I've been playing again for a while now, it's become a disaster, there's no logic to it anymore, when I started playing again a lot of friends who still have accounts don't play anymore but connect once in a while so as not to lose their billions, but they warned me "you're going to get bored with the game, it's been abandoned for a while" 😅

Levi: J'ai 5M qui veut ??
J'échange volontier contre un 10NG
😌😌😌

Don't push too hard😤🫵😅

Kynlux: Pousse pas trop toi😤🫵😅

Oh but 😁

Hello,
Quick question: how many new accounts or managers have there been since these new rules were introduced?

Hello.

On another subject, someone said that at the start of the season, following the deletion of inactive clubs, we had gone from 7200 to 3630.

There are now 5600 registered clubs.

So, roughly speaking, that's 2,000 new accounts since the start of the season.

Demi-cerveau: Bonjour.

Su un autre sujet, quelqu'un a dit qu'en début de saison, suite à la suppression de clubs inactifs, nous étions passés de 7200 à 3630.

Actuellement, il y a 5600 clubs inscrits.

Donc, à la louche, ça fait 2000 nouveaux comptes depuis le début de la saison.

But not 2,000 new members 😂😂😂😂😂

Unfortunately, this is more than likely.

All that doesn't mean you won't find cheaters in the general club rankings, I suppose. Correct me if I'm wrong. The legends, the LDC winners ... It will always be honest clubs.
If I'm wrong, I'm out of the game right now xD

And of the 2000, how many have already given up? I'd say 1000 easy, so 1000 more afk.
As a note, there are 1000 left, so that's something.

SummerTime: Tout ça n'empêche pas que sur le classement général des clubs tu ne trouveras pas de tricheurs je suppose. Corrigez-moi si j'ai tort. Les légendes, les gagnants de LDC ... Ça sera tjrs des clubs honnêtes.
Si c'est faux je me casse du jeu tout de suite xD

Of course not
How many cheated to win a cup or championship?
How many have forgotten to field a team to favour a player..... Do not believe that all clubs are clean ....

SummerTime: Tout ça n'empêche pas que sur le classement général des clubs tu ne trouveras pas de tricheurs je suppose. Corrigez-moi si j'ai tort. Les légendes, les gagnants de LDC ... Ça sera tjrs des clubs honnêtes.
Si c'est faux je me casse du jeu tout de suite xD

Are you still here?

6francs72: Quand j’ai commencé le jeu ça n’existait pas les clubs qui avait doublé compte , j’ai arrêté pour raison personnel et je mem’y suis remis depuis un p’tit temps c’est devenu une cata y’a plus aucune logique , quand j’ai repris le jeu pas mal de potes qu’on encore leurs comptes n’y jouent plus mais se Connect une fois de temps en temps pour ne pas perdre leurs milliards mais m’avait prévenu « tu vas t’embêter sur le jeu il est à l’abandon depuis un moment »😅

It’s very sad, when I started playing as well there was no such thing as multi account, I lost both accounts recently to this rule even though I never interacted between both clubs. It’s so sad seeing the game like thus

Rull43: T'es encore là?

I'm staying for the pleasure of playing after all xD
I don't know, but I don't really mind cheaters... There will always be some in any online game.

OK, thanks for the info about increasing the number of new accounts!
But I think I would have done the same as aymeric, with this change in rules, if I had wanted to make my game more attractive and increase the number of managers (even if there are multis). The only reason for this would have been to make my game more attractive and increase the number of managers (even if there are multis).
And then I find that the positive and negative balance of this change of rules is not quite balanced and it still leans to the negative side despite this mutual aid wanted by the designer of the game!

I think the new VF is great, all that's missing now are the frees like in the past and the game will be perfect again :D
Thanks aymeric! ♡

Nicularo: Bonjour Aymeric, bonjour la communauté.

Cela fait maintenant une semaine que nous sommes entrés dans le "VF 2.0" ; le VF ou tout est permis, le VF de la triche, des transferts de fonds, des multi comptes, bref le VF que l'on ne veut pas voir.

Ce VF qui rend désormais possible ce genre de club : Deleted club
Et qui rend possible ce genre de transferts :
Libre de 39 ans, NG 15, vendu 3.8M à un club âgé de 10 jours
Libre de 23 ans, NG 18, vendu 4M à un club âgé d...

If a former admin, who previously sanctioned and banned several clubs, now allows himself to buy an NG99 goalkeeper for 1 million, then everything's fine. Given that it's legal now, we can't help but take note. But I can only imagine for a moment how the clubs he banned would react to seeing him make such a purchase today.
NB: this is in no way an accusation or anything, just an observation.