Hello everyone,

As everyone can see, since certain cases but also for quite a few seasons you have made Vfo unattractive with all the little wars to bring down others by fouls instead of matches. Each time a team of administrators has been in place you've done everything to disqualify them from the role, whereas all those who have taken on this role have done so to help the game and the community, whereas we all know how our MDJ communicates and even if it's not the way you want, he communicates or reacts more than before.
All the administrators who have passed through have tried to be as communicative as possible, and even then it doesn't suit you. For example, the last announcement made in the News section doesn't please you because it was us administrators who made it, with Aymeric's approval, because the News section is still for official game news, but you're asking for one thing when you know very well that since the vocal discord there hasn't been any other announcement.

I also remind you as much the MDJ as we administrators have a life outside vf as a majority of you

What's more, we deal with matters as they come up at the same time as all the other mp requests, so we're at the community's disposal as much as possible, and if you compare this to other games, many of them don't have the same level of communication as you do with the admins, because they don't give you any feedback on what they're doing, even if you pass on the information to them.
You're asking us for immediate sanctions, on some cases yes it's possible but on others there's more checking to be done, you give us elements that's good but we don't act directly at your request we also have to check everything as much as you give us but also the possible consequences on the clubs concerned, like the latest case of the double event courses or despite what fus everything had to be checked, and go back up to know what procedure to take in relation to the choices and decisions of the MDJ.

What is wonderful is that everyone knows the rules to punish others, but I also remind you that all false accusations and complaints on the Vfo is also punishable, which also means the choices or you ask if such or such account is not a multi (yes by asking you have a doubt but it accuses the club of suspicion of multi and if not the case as it happens you are punishable). We try to move the game forward and to react as you do is not the case because instead of taking care of business in progress we have to come and referee you when we are for an adult majority.

Do you realise that it's a mess at the start of every season?? instead of trying to put us under pressure with your business that you bring up, let us do our job (which can take time) and enjoy your club and the agreement.
React as it was before on the Vfo, or it jokes as in free part with Michbou and his meals, it talks about competitions and helps others to progress instead of making topics on injuries or carrots repetitions, it is not with this style of subject that it gives desire to come or publish on the Vfo, Virtuafoot has well diffèrent subject to debate.
Le MDJ a choisi le marche libre, que la limite de prix qui a changé, attendais un peu de voir ce que ca va donner , a ces débuts le jeu avait juste les championnats , le minichat et le Vforum pour communiquer et il n'y avait pas de limite de prix et ca se passe bien , puis il a créé les ententes pour qu' on puisse s'aider entre ami , So yes, there have been changes and decisions that we don't like, such as the Facom affair (things that could be sorted out), but the GM has decided that this is the way it's going to be, so whether you like it or not, it will be the way he's decided. He's the one who decides the direction of his game, so there's no point in continuing to throw yourself at him. Besides, just like Jex and Lomax, leave them alone, they were punished for what they did by the GM, so it's the same, happy or not, it's the GM's choice, so there's no point in lashing out at them too, because they're not the only cheats in the game, there are others, and since the last voice I've blocked lots of others, so give us time to deal with things properly, and don't keep asking us where it's been done any further.

Even without a price limit, the game is still a management game, the only difference being that you have to negotiate the sums (which is also management).

So when you give us business let us time to take care and manage it and meanwhile discuss and laugh with the community on the Vfo, the minichat and discord, you're here to have fun not to monitor others and adapt to the change decided by the MDJ, to complain 500 times or mess on the Vfo serves no purpose and does not advance things is rather the opposite, so instead of wasting your time enjoy the game, laugh and have fun.

Sincerely

Blue, isn't it possible to work with the MDJ to penalise the "pollution" of the VFO? Which, as you say, is unfortunately no longer attractive.

Those who wish to bring their doubts, evidence, accusations etc... can continue to do so by PMing you. But not here, this is not the place.

Under penalty of sanctions.

Merci blue bien dit, apres tôt long 🤣
Par contre la journée d'hier a été marque par 3, 4, 5 u 6 topics voir plus où la discussion déviée avec des sous entendus, puis des accusations. But unlike usual I've seen NO ADMIN intervene, nor close a topic, in fact all these topics are still open. So you'll have to explain...

OK, the admins are busy IRL like everyone else, but I've known them to be quicker to point out the rules in force for whistleblowing. If CPs have done wrong, let them be punished. But then the sad spectacle all day yesterday was pitiful under an astonishing passivity.

Good luck admins, I've always admired your work, and with this new era of transfers, I don't know what you're going to do.

On the other hand, with yesterday's rant, you could close one or two topics and impose the sanctions you're talking about. Because seriously, this has gone too far.

And if the CPs have cheated, let that be demonstrated in PM or any person from VF then they should be sanctioned too. Basta.

Whether you believe me or not, I've only had the CP logo behind my club for one season. I couldn't care less. I'd say the same thing with any colour. I'll invite 2-3 weirdos to leave their club and join other weirdos, you're a good pair, and that's nothing new.

Rull43: Merci blue bien dit, apres tôt long 🤣
Par contre la journée d'hier a été marque par 3, 4, 5 u 6 topics voir plus où la discussion déviée avec des sous entendus, puis des accusations. Mais contrairement à d'habitude j'ai vu AUCUN ADMIN intervenir, ni fermer un sujet, d'ailleurs tous ces sujets sont encore ouverts. Alors faudra m'expliquer...

ok les admins sont occupés IRL comme tout le monde, mais je les ai connus plus prompt pour rappeler les regles en vigueur pour la dénonciation. Si des ...

My subject stayed 1 week without any evidence given in the bug section, it was closed 4 times and reopened in the nick of time, I didn't see you raise that one and I didn't have fun hiding evidence for 3 weeks to make a show.

The admins bear a responsibility when there's cheating in plain sight and there's no communication. The time lapse between taking the file and contacting the players is incomprehensible, and here I agree with the CPs. 3 weeks to ask the players for their opinion is a long time, and if Aymeric doesn't respond you can at least interact with the players who are under suspicion.

What's causing discord today is essentially a lack of communication and I've already told you that. Now, the fights between cartels and, at the same time, the insinuations towards the admins aren't helping matters.
We need to start from scratch. Admins need to be respected, otherwise they can't work peacefully.

I invite you all to get to work and to have one representative per agreement to calm things down.
The game needs admins and certainly not a battle every week.
If Jeff leaves the admins it might be a good idea to have a representative from the CP.

I think we just need to do away with the cartel ranking. That way there's no more bickering.

I recognise that our spat has gone too far and I apologise for that.
After a lengthy exchange of views with Tomasm, we're going to try to turn the page and start afresh on a sound footing.
Players who have voluntarily or involuntarily used the double training period following a short loan will get in touch with the admins and those who don't respect the federations' rules will make sure they respect them.

For our part, we will respond on the pitch, something we know how to do.

Sorry again for this weekend.

I'm 100% in favour of punishing any accusation made in public if it's unfounded, but also if it's well-founded.
Otherwise, the Forum or even the mini-chat becomes a dumping ground for anything and everything, with the people targeted feeling obliged to defend themselves, and with all the one-upmanship that ensues afterwards (we can see the sad spectacle that is currently taking place).

On the other hand, what is seriously lacking is the publication of a register where all the sanctions taken by the admins are published, and above all the reasons for them.
In real life, investigations are discreet or even secret (unless leaked to the press), but all judgements, whether civil (industrial tribunals, commercial courts, etc.) or criminal (criminal courts, assize courts), are both public and accompanied by a statement of reasons.
To such an extent that many appeal decisions and all the decisions of the Supreme Court are even displayed in full view of the public on the internet on sites such as Légifrance or Pappers Justice.

What would you say if you lived in a society where the courts were secret entities whose decisions were unknown to the public?

These publications wouldn't be voyeuristic, they would set an example and above all they would act as a deterrent and incidentally they would also make it possible to avoid or at least limit the risks of a feeling of injustice or conversely a feeling of favouritism.

Quite frankly, the publication of such a register of sanctions (there have been a few attempts in the past but not really followed through) would have a very beneficial effect.

I don't see how anyone can be against this: no denunciation, even justified in broad daylight, but on the other hand systematic publication of sanctions to set an example and act as a deterrent.

I think it's a good thing that cheating and the like is public, otherwise who's going to prove that it's a good thing .....car in the end you never know....
In the days of Galy it was quite transparent.....

Admins players we do not have the same jersey but the same passion 🤭🤭🤭

I'm against it.
People always think that showing a table with 3 pieces of information will make the game healthier.
But that's not true. Making this type of information public opens up a Pandora's box. Everyone will comment on the validity and degree of each sanction.
If there's a difference between two members, it's up to the admin. But there may be reasons for this and we can't note everything down on a spreadsheet.
What's more, it's extra work for the admins.
Wouldn't it be simpler to trust the admins? It's not the commu who has to check, it's either the other admins or the mdj.

Otherwise Blue, you're right. Thanks for this message

Pierabou: Je suis contre.
On pense toujours que montrer un tableau avec 3 infos va rendre le jeu plus sain.
Mais c'est faux, rendre public ce type d'info c'est ouvrir la boîte de Pandore. Chacun y va de son commentaire sur la validité et le degré de chaque sanction.
S'il y a une différence de faite entre deux membres, on tombe sur l'admin. Mais il peut y avoir des raisons et on ne peut pas tout noter sur un tableur.
De plus c'est du travail supplémentaire pour les admins.
Faire confiance aux admin...

Unfortunately I don't think you understood my message, but that's all right, no doubt you'd like to live (in real life, not on VF) in a society where the courts dispensed justice in the shadows and without their decisions being made public.
To each his own!
It's not even a question of trusting or not trusting judges.
When I say that denunciation should not be public, I also mean that criticism of the decision should not be either.
You probably haven't understood either that the penalty has a dissuasive effect, so if it's secret it no longer has one.

myforsans: Malheureusement je crois que tu n'as pas compris mon message mais bon pas grave sans doute que tu aimerais vivre (dans la vraie vie pas sur VF) dans une société où les tribunaux rendraient la justice dans l'ombre et sans que leur décision soient rendues publiques.
Chacun ses goûts !
C'est même pas une question de confiance ou pas confiance dans les juges.
Quand je dis que la délation ne doit pas être publique j'entends aussi que les critiques de la décision ne doivent pas l'être non plus.
Tu ...

I'm a bit stupid 🤷‍♂️.
But I'm entitled to my opinion and I want it to be respected 😉

It's not a question of stupidity at all, it's just a question of how we see life in society. So it has absolutely nothing to do with stupidity.

myforsans: C'est pas du tout une question de bêtise c'est uniquement une question de conception qu'on a de la vie en société. Donc strictement rien à voir avec la bêtise.

Just don't tell me I don't understand 😉
I understood just fine, I just don't agree about VF. Nothing to do with civil society.

Rull43: Merci blue bien dit, apres tôt long 🤣
Par contre la journée d'hier a été marque par 3, 4, 5 u 6 topics voir plus où la discussion déviée avec des sous entendus, puis des accusations. Mais contrairement à d'habitude j'ai vu AUCUN ADMIN intervenir, ni fermer un sujet, d'ailleurs tous ces sujets sont encore ouverts. Alors faudra m'expliquer...

ok les admins sont occupés IRL comme tout le monde, mais je les ai connus plus prompt pour rappeler les regles en vigueur pour la dénonciation. Si des ...

I agree with you, some people have been fined 5 million euros for (much) less than that...

Hello Blue.

I agree with you about the noxious atmosphere that can reign on the forum, which certainly doesn't inspire enthusiasm with subjects that too often drift into settling of scores or highly damaging personal accusations. I sometimes get involved, and I shouldn't, you're right.

On the other hand, the 'mess' at the start of the season began with questions, which I think were legitimate, about the changes to the rules and what they meant in practical terms for the game. That's where we got your message at the start of the season, so it was you who found yourself at the forefront of this issue, and that's not acceptable.

If Aymeric decides to make fundamental changes to the way the game works, he should be the one to come and explain them to us. Not you, not Blagoje, not Michbou, not Socrate. It's him. Perhaps if we understood a little about where he wants to go, the atmosphere would be a little calmer.

I'm saying this all the more freely because I found myself in your shoes not so long ago, and I know it's a difficult job where there are more bad days than good ... Aymeric must play his part in defining the direction the game is taking to move towards a calmer climate.

Thanks in any case to the admins for their work. And a big thank you to Jeff, who also stopped today.

Tchubdebelgimex: D'accord avec toi, certains ont pris une amende de 5M pour (beaucoup) moins que ça...

your point of view is rather strange .... compare fines for vulgar sexist language to public denunciation ....
in short, put your resentment and jealousy aside and start thinking about how to counter the wave of dubious transfers and new level 1 accounts, because it seems to me that advertising to play vf hasn't been around for a while now ... so I'll leave it to your imagination to figure out where this record attendance comes from.

Demi-cerveau: Bonjour Blue.

Je te rejoins sur l'ambiance délétère qui peut régner sur le forum, qui ne donne sûrement pas envie avec les sujets qui dérivent trop souvent vers des règlements de compte ou des accusations personnelles fort dommageables. Il m'arrive d'y participer, et je ne devrais pas, tu as raison.

Par contre, le "bordel" de début de saison a commencé par des questionnements, légitimes je pense, sur les évolutions des règles et ce qu'elles impliquaient concrètement sur le jeu. Là dessus, ...

Hello Demi, I don't usually comment here on the VFO because it's so pointless... but I share your point of view 100%: there's only one person responsible for the current situation, and when it comes to seeing an admin posting in the "News" tab, the situation is SERIOUS,

The ship has been sinking for far too long now and clearly 3/4 of the active players on this game don't know what direction they're going in, since there hasn't been any black-and-white communication on this game for X amount of time...

For fuck's sake, the headline is "Let's calm down", and every time it gets out of hand, let us play vf in peace, have a good season!

I agree, even if I haven't read all of it 😁

estac: Je reconnais que notre guéguerre est partie trop loin et je m'en excuse.
Après avoir échangé longuement avec tomasm, nous allons faire en sorte de tourner la page et repartir sur des bases saines.
Le joueur ayant utilisé volontairement ou non le double stage suite à un prêt court va se rapprocher des admins et ceux ne respectant pas la règle des fédérations vont faire en sorte de la respecter.

De notre côté, nous allons répondre sur le terrain, chose que nous savons faire.

Encore désolé p...

I haven't read all your messages and I never thought you'd gone too far, unlike some others. It's just that the two presidents spoke to each other, well done to you.

Hello everyone,
As we say in real life, "if we don't like things. There's nothing to stop us looking elsewhere".

I recently came back to the game. And I see that it's always the same thing...
Always complaints, war a pseudo power over a video game, resentment or whatever. I thought that with 10 more years some of you would have matured and well I find that it's worse than before and I'm only surprised that the mdr hasn't taken a swipe at some of you.

I've been able to play different types of game (games where you spend a lot of money or not at all).
But what you may be forgetting... the game designer has no obligation to consult with customers, players or others.
The only time he is obliged to do so is with those who have made a financial contribution to the game.
As I recall, this game belongs 100% to Aymeric.

So the answer is simple. If you don't like the game any more or it doesn't seem to be in line with your principles or whatever.

You can walk away from it... you're bringing a bad image to the game and to new players.

I can already tell you that on a game based on pay to win.
There would have been no problem with banning you and your childish squabbles....

It's becoming distressing and, above all, it's creating a noxious atmosphere.... so grow up and play like adults...

Otherwise, don't complain if aymeric doesn't provide any answers to your many questions....

With this type of behaviour, he must not be very motivated to give you a real answer.

What's more, you old-timers know Aymeric and his way of doing things, so stop hiding behind him to adopt such unacceptable behaviour...

Thank you very much

Jeffus tuchuss: ton point de vue est assez étrange .... comparer des amendes pour langage vulgaire sexiste à des dénonciation publique ....
bref mettez vos rancœur et jalousie de cotés et commencez a réfléchir a comment contrer la vague de transfert douteux et de nouveaux comptes niveaux 1 car il me semble que la pub pour jouer a vf n'est plus présente depuis quelque temps ... donc je laisse libre a votre imagination pour imaginer d'où vient ce record d'affluence.

Are we talking about my sanction? I sent you a message without knowing the reason and I accepted it. Then I understood your explanations. Let's not make a big deal of it either.
Is that the only thing that shocked you and that deserved a penalty in the last 48 hours? Apparently so, since unless I'm mistaken it was the only one. I've known you to be quicker to press the stop button, and that's always effective.

Too many novels... Too bad I missed all those stories to understand.

estac: Je reconnais que notre guéguerre est partie trop loin et je m'en excuse.
Après avoir échangé longuement avec tomasm, nous allons faire en sorte de tourner la page et repartir sur des bases saines.
Le joueur ayant utilisé volontairement ou non le double stage suite à un prêt court va se rapprocher des admins et ceux ne respectant pas la règle des fédérations vont faire en sorte de la respecter.

De notre côté, nous allons répondre sur le terrain, chose que nous savons faire.

Encore désolé p...

Excuses are fine, but at some point you have to take action...
LR has been messing up the VFO at regular intervals with everyone else for far too long... Back then it was the FYM, now it's the Chope ... In the meantime, a lot of people have moved on.
I think it's time for you to do your own self-analysis.

Unagi: Les excuses c''est bien mais à un moment donné faut aussi passé à l'action..
La LR se retrouve a foutre un bazar monstre sur le VFO à intervalle régulier avec tout le monde et ce depuis bien trop longtemps... A l'époque c'était la FYM maintenant avec la Chope .. Entre temps beaucoup y sont passé.
J'ai peu de doute que ça va repartir d'ici maximum 2 mois
Je pense qu'il serait temps de faire votre auto analyse

Hey bha ... almost surprised not to have read a nice message from you before ...
We were expecting it but it was almost too predictable ... like every time you go out.
On your good words, have a good evening and see you at the next scandal. ✌️

You can hear and understand each other, but don't get everything mixed up, even if the admin team has changed several times and with different ways of composing it, it has always listened to the community and brought it up to the MDJ (with a reaction from him or not), sometimes he has acted in the direction requested by the community and other times not.
This has always been his game and he wants to give it a community aspect as he has explained (certainly during the live discord and where we made a summary for those who weren't there).
I'm sure you don't like the fact that it was an administrator who made the announcement in the news section instead of the MDJ, but given that in the community section, it would be better to make the announcements in the news rather than on the administrators' page, which gets lost when reviewing the announcements made. So yes it's me who made the announcement in the News section and I take responsibility for it, because internally it's me who also asked for the MDJ's agreement (which he accepted) for the official announcements to be made in this section which is dedicated to that (it's clearly written below News: Virtuafoot's official news and not the MDJ's official news).

you want communication from the MDJ, you certainly do not have as much or as detailed as you want, but there are from time to time. Afterwards, we'll tell you what we know, but our role as administrators isn't just to sanction, it's also to communicate and give you the MDJ's decisions, in short, to act as a relay between you and the MDJ.

The fact of the free market has made us see anything and everything, by announcing this he just said no more minimum or maximum amount on transfers, okay it may not please and want to debate but the end will be the same will adapt, what was the point of having a weekend like this when we have zero hindsight with this system. The irony is that some of the old-timers have complained about it, but remember when you were starting out and at the beginning of the game, we didn't have transfer limits and things went well.

As for current affairs, let us deal with them, wait for a return or not from the MDJ and give you a return if we have one or advise you after a while if we don't have one, but not everything can be done in 48-72 hours, as much the MDJ as the admin team isn't on the game 24/7.

In order to be heard and for this to attract the attention of the MDJ, subjects must be well debated in an atmosphere of understanding and respect for everyone's opinion (even if it disagrees with your opinion), at which point, when Vfo has once again become a real place for community exchange, as it should always have been, then at which point we may see the MDJ reacting and responding as much on Vfo as on the minichat (yes, at one time the MDJ also exchanged on the minchat). Of course, if you want to debate something, you'll have to do it in just one subject, because if you do it in more than one, you'll get lost and the subject will lose all its interest.

For the moment I'm just going to close all the topics that end up in conflict, as everyone seems to want to start again from a good base, but the next public conflicts there will be no more reminders and sanctions will fall directly.

It's the same too, a point that should be forgotten is this pseudo problem with agreement labels, up until Morten's time (when a lot of people fell on him) it was never a worry, those who choose to become admins do it to help move forward and keep the game clean (even if it's complicated because you can't manage conflicts on one side and deal with things on the other).

I suspect that some people don't drink enough and don't fuck enough, so a word of advice: don't fuck, don't fuck, don't fuck, and avoid your wife's sister, that could be punishable! :p

What if we suspended the forum? It would do the game, the admins and a lot of you a world of good.

Colombpal85: Je soupçonne certain de ne pas assez prendre l'apéro et de ne pas assez baiser, un conseil niquez, niquez, niquez, et éviter la sœur de votre femme ça peut être sanctionnable ! :p

Er, I don't want to sound like a saint, but this kind of vocabulary is reprehensible a priori in a game where there are supposedly minors.
So if you can say cock, tits and balls without prejudice, I think we need to update some of the rules.
I don't want to add another layer, but having your nickname in green doesn't authorise everything a priori, if only in terms of vocabulary.

Lebaygue: Heu,je veux pas faire ma sainte nitouche mais ce genre de vocabulaire est répréhensible a priori sur un jeu où il y a supposément des mineurs.
Donc si on peut dire bite,nichons, couilles sans préjudice,il faudrait remettre a jour une partie du règlement,je pense.
Je veux pas remettre une couche mais avoir son pseudo en vert n autorise pas tout a priori,ne serait ce que dans le vocabulaire.

I'm guilty, I admit it!😄

I'm disappointed though, I was convinced that having my username in green would exonerate me from any accusations, I must have been wrong hahaha I'm joking of course.

PS: 20m because I said 4 swear words

But I was talking about Belgian petits fours that I used to make with my wife's sister (she didn't have any otherwise).

Colombpal85: Je soupçonne certain de ne pas assez prendre l'apéro et de ne pas assez baiser, un conseil niquez, niquez, niquez, et éviter la sœur de votre femme ça peut être sanctionnable ! :p

Has your account been hacked?

Colombpal85: Je soupçonne certain de ne pas assez prendre l'apéro et de ne pas assez baiser, un conseil niquez, niquez, niquez, et éviter la sœur de votre femme ça peut être sanctionnable ! :p

Even if we suspect that it's humour, please avoid sexual lines on Vfo to avoid offending the sensibilities of young people.

Is it a full moon or what? What's going on? What's going on?

Thank you colombpal for your levity. Come and have a laugh on the discord and let Racine, Diderot and Montesquieu have their elaborate verbal jousts.
We'll have some vulgar laughs while they throw buckets of rubbish at each other with great courtesy.
Dear gentlemen, see you soon.

Putneg: Merci colombpal pour ta légèreté. Viens déconner sur discord et laisse racine, Diderot et montesquieu se faire des joutes verbales bien élaborées.
On va rire vulgairement pendant que ça se jette des sceaux de daubes avec beaucoup de courtoisie.
Chers gentlemen, à bientôt.

#TouchePasAMonMontesquieu

And rather than behaving like kids, couldn't you realise that Aymeric is trying to kill his game without shutting it down and that there's no point in playing VF any more?
Honestly, go and have a drink, do some sport, look after your loved ones, everyone will be better off.

RadioRainbow: #TouchePasAMonMontesquieu

Your Tesqiueu? 😀

johncenawwe: Ton Tesqiueu ? 😀

Don't touch his tesquieu 😅 if you want I'll lend you my jab and some espierre dresses

bluethunders26: Bonjour a tous ,

Comme tout le monde le voie , depuis certaines affaires mais aussi depuis pas mal de saison aussi vous rendez le Vfo non attractif avec toutes les petites guerres pour faire tomber les autres par des fautes au lieu des matchs . A chaque fois qu' une équipe d administrateur était en place vous avez tout fait pour dégouter du rôle alors que tous ceux qui sont passer dans ce rôle l ont fait pour aider le jeu et la communauté , alors qu' on sais tous comment communique notre MD...

I love this line in your Blue communication
"All the directors who have been here have tried to be as communicative as possible".

It makes me smile. I've just been fined 25% by my bank. I think I can see why (although I haven't exceeded any limits). Rather than getting a message to explain why and ask my opinion, I've just been fined straight away. It's clean.
Fortunately, you try to be as communicative as possible. We'll say that it depends when, it depends with whom and it depends on who's being punished... Some people seem untouchable, others can't do half of what some people can afford, do you think that's normal? After that weekend of mayhem, when a simple apology a few days later was more than enough... Even though they apologised without being asked. No admin has ever picked up on the slightest word or the slightest implication made by some people this weekend. So if you want peace, if you want people to calm down, start by applying a double standard... Some people have been spared for far too long.

Tchubdebelgimex: J'aime cette phrase dans ta communication Blue
"Toutes les administrateurs qui sont passer ont essayer d être au maximum communicatif "

Elle me fait sourire. Je viens de me prendre une amende de 25% de ma banque. Je pense voir pourquoi (bien que je n'ai dépassé aucune limite). Plutôt que d'avoir un message pour comprendre le pourquoi du comment, me demander mon avis, je prends l'amende directement. C'est propre.
Heureusement, vous essayez d'être au maximum communicatif. On va dire que ça dé...

The other manager was given the same sanction as you following your complaint.

global suite :
So yes, we try to be as communicative as possible, but when you come to complain, you don't ask the administrators to act as mediator, but rather that the other manager be sanctioned in accordance with the rules.

In fact, when we give warnings, we don't like it and when we punish, we don't like it, so stop complaining about stories or stopping them, you just have to block them or simply not respond.

In any case, as soon as it's a penalty, you'll get angry (which is normal for all of us), but don't forget that there are quite a few requests that you make to us that are taken into account when you make mistakes or have unforeseen problems.