Over the last few days, the forum has been overflowing with reports of loopholes which, with the best will in the world, we can no longer understand whether they are still banned or have become legal.

This uncertainty is becoming a bit unhealthy for the atmosphere of the game, with direct or indirect denunciations, innuendo, etc...

Without being exhaustive:

• sale of a player at a derisory price by a quasi-inactive player to a friend (or supposed friend), sometimes followed by resale at true value in the minutes that follow or exfiltration as a loan
• loans disguised as cheap sales with a view to recovering the player once he has been trained
• federations full of players from the same cartel or the same club
• weekly payment of financial aid by a cartel to certain members (leading to confusion between the cartel's cash flow and personal cash flow, which is the definition of the offence of misuse of corporate assets)
• daily loan (or sale at a derisory price) of a player who adds up the physical preparation courses and returns to his original club once the endurance points have been accumulated
• creating level 1 clubs to take advantage of low prices and recycling purchases and resales from a friend (or yourself if you have multiple accounts)
  etc, ....... I'm bound to forget!

Before the game goes down the drain, it would be good (and I'd even say essential) to have an official communication from the MDJ as a matter of urgency (and not just from the admins, who I don't think have a clear idea of what they can do themselves) here or in the News section about what's actually allowed and what's forbidden, and when it's forbidden, what the penalties are.

My personal opinion;
Our MDJ is currently busy trying to sell his game.
Deregulating the transfer market makes no sense apart from the massive creation of multi-accounts. The creation of multi-accounts will fictitiously increase the attractiveness of VF.
Increase in potential "customers" = attractive game for a possible sale.
This phenomenon + the virtual absence of official information since the announcement of this famous voice last season leads me to believe that

You'd think that if he'd wanted to contradict the admins he would have done so a long time ago.

Creating other accounts is forbidden. The problem is detecting it.

If market values are completely free, that means you can buy and sell at whatever price you want, for mutual aid or whatever.

The only rule, to date, as explained, is that you can't buy back a player sold less than 56 days later.

If the player has been transferred, for example, you would have to block the earnings from the physical preparation camp event, in a similar way to the collective training sessions (the famous medical check-up). That would remove a few worries.

We could also block the maximum number of clubs a player can play for per season, but that wouldn't go in the direction of the 'total freedom' we're aiming for.

Myfor talks about a point that many are trying to drown out.
The +2 each endurance season thanks to a loophole on the loans.
I'm bringing up the subject again here because I have the impression that no-one is aware of the cheating that's going on at this level...

Broken loans for the +2 endu, that's still a flaw, even with price deregulation. And those who are at fault at the moment did so before this change.

The message from myforsans is broader. And there's already a topic for this other subject. We can create 10.

I hope aymeric reads even a tiny part of what's being said, because this is getting seriously out of hand.

It's a good thing I don't play much personally, because I put myself in the shoes of people who play intensively, and to be honest, whether individually or as a group, it's enough to make you seriously disgusted.

Cheaters are going to be in the majority very soon and they're going to have a field day. Even if cheating is a poor choice, given that almost everything is authorised or can be controlled.

Good luck to you all.

The logic behind having seen penalties sometimes commensurate with cheating
You have to block the system and reset the players concerned, and if it's a blocked agreement, you have to organise the agreement for cheating.
For some cartels, no details were given for 4/5 players .....

Yes, if the +2s were carried out on a large scale, an exemplary sanction is required.
Throttle the players and impose financial penalties if a cartel has organised it on an industrial scale.

So the 2 of them !😂

The funniest thing about all this is that, as usual, the members who complain about the new rules will be members of the cartel who will benefit the most from this new rule.
I'm convinced that in parallel to these messages of complaints, the discords are already full of strategies ready to be put in place to abuse and over-abuse this new provision.

Multi-accounts, .... not multi-colours!

What's really extraordinary is to be giving lessons to everyone (even those who weren't asking for them), while at the same time being far from irreproachable.
Some set themselves up as paragons of virtue, but their own position is highly questionable.
And yet, everything's fine, move along, there's nothing to see.
And for the icing on the cake: those who dare to highlight these little 'optimisations' find themselves the target of reprisals.
Transparency is definitely a good thing. But only when it doesn't bother anyone.

Let's be clear.
I don't think anyone is fooled by this barely concealed crusade against CPs, following the situation you've been through with Jex. So let's be clear.
This has been going on for several months now. It started with Max's temporary ban for organising an IE on Day 1. From that moment on we knew that we wouldn't stand a chance and that one day the slightest fart would be punished.

After months of research, it seems that you've finally decided to launch yourself into something visible. And it doesn't stop. Even if you keep quiet so as not to fuel a sorry spectacle, it just keeps coming back. Even the embryo of a joint conversation has come to nothing, but the objective remains the priority...

In any case, it doesn't matter. The position will always be the same. If a CP commits an offence, and it's proven, it's very simple: he takes responsibility! If there's a defence to be made, we'll present it to support the member if he or she wishes, but if there isn't one, it's simple: he or she assumes responsibility! And if they're really cheating, we'll cooperate without any worries. That's always been the rule. Unlike others........
That said, for the moment, there are no offences. Just imagination, wishes, beliefs and hatred. So it's hard to go any further.
So when we know exactly what we're accused of (let's be honest, bugger all), maybe the members who might be targeted can start to defend themselves? Rather than casting aspersions, barely concealed, and without anyone being bothered.
So it'll be quite simple. We won't go so far as to make fools of ourselves as to support a member against all odds if they've obviously contravened. And we won't issue any press releases, etc., that would be pathetic.
These members will take responsibility if there's a problem. But right now, there's nothing, and no one has been contacted by an independent admin. So stop your provocations and innuendoes. Your repeated attempts have had their effect, so wait for the feedback and stop ruining the discussions.

Finally, as far as transfers are concerned, I'll say it again, all I did was apply the rules. The MDJ clearly explained that he wanted to strengthen mutual aid. Here's a case in point. I'm well off financially, and I'm passing the benefits on to my friends. And if that makes people angry, that's fine, it's just the rules. Even if I'd rather it had never come into force, it has. So we play with it, and that's the way it is, whether you like it or not.

Let's hear it...

I'll take all the blame, if you're able to tell me "Deck you're being targeted" and your elements 🙂

If the new rules are supposedly designed to attract new clubs (I'm talking about the real ones, not the multi-account ones) ..... If, once registered, this newcomer browses the forum for a while, I don't think he'll be back any time soon, except perhaps for a laugh.

Exactly, no, a coach can't select whoever he wants. There are limits per club and per agreement.

Just one thing, and then I'll leave you to fight it out. Jex's totally unfounded attacks on me, as usual. I'd like to make it clear that I haven't made any transfer of funds since Monday to anyone. I've bought players, at prices agreed over a season ago, and I've sold players, at prices that I think respect all the old tables ....

For my part, I still respect the old rules, and I intend to continue to do so. Worse still, I had my pre-season training session on Friday evening, and a few hours later I was buying players for 70 million apiece, proof that I really must be the king of idiots...

Incidentally, I have 5 LRs in the Cameroon squad...

Thank you for that correction.

Is that all? Is that what your investigation is about? Mdr even being concerned I don't understand
Make an effort so I can defend myself better

No, but you really need to be clearer about the dates and the names of players who would have taken +2 because it's really unclear.

I want to be used as a lesson to the people.

Give me a clearer, step-by-step account of which player is being targeted, where the gain is and so on.

I'm looking forward to it but for the moment I'm not getting anything.

Doesn't it occur to anyone that Aymeric might be sick and tired of seeing people attacking each other all day long on the VFo?

Every time a topic is opened, it doesn't take 2 pages for it to turn into a shouting match... It must not make him want to read and reply...

Deck cheating is obvious.

Oh you calm down a bit see you woke me up with all your decibels without deck there are some who try to take a nap 🤭🤭🤭

So the 7 EC storage for the CDF output is opti or exploitation?

Given that the rule is one training session per day

The root of the problem remains short loans. If this becomes prohibited, there is no longer any problem.

All the CPs play legally. Winning on the pitch is a cornerstone of the agreement I created 19 years ago. Yet we've been subjected to uninterrupted attacks by Alexandre for several weeks now, on various topics, even when it's off-topic, without proof, in pure defamation and with the participation of the multi-account of a banned player.

Our image is inevitably and unfairly tarnished.

Will there ever be an admin team left to remind us of the rules, or will we continue to be stabbed in public to the laughter of passers-by?

Good evening,
The only communication which will be made on behalf of the admins on the fact of the managers who benefited from a bug/fail normally solved with the base by Aymeric but which apparently does not have it.

• the use of this optimisation is indeed a flaw, given that it hasn't been reported to admin.
• the use of a fast loan (return trip from one club to another with the use of two recovery and endurance courses) clearly demonstrates the desire for deliberate optimisation.
• We're waiting for Aymeric to take a stand on the subject.
  Have a good Sunday.

Deck is not a cheat! The proof is that he even forgot to put a captain in the LDC final!

The cartel feuds that play out the title episode 3546.

I won the LDC straight away, without qualifying.

So it could well be a deliberate flaw, but we'll have to wait and see what Aymeric says.... This is an interesting concept in anti-cheating.
If, in the eyes of anti-cheating, the offending club or clubs have indeed taken advantage of a loophole, there must be an individual sanction... And if the mdj wishes to increase the sanction, it will let you know.

If I optimise my dose of Ricard in my drink this evening to be able to put up with my wife, is that a flaw?

for reasons of fairness an admin of his agreement can not put a penalty to manager of his agreement. So please contact another person with I think the magic words.

I'm not asking for a penalty. I'm just asking for a little help so that we can stop hijacking every topic to turn it into a tribunal against the CPs for cheating that didn't happen. Deck and Brewen demonstrated this in a dedicated topic.
Especially as there is one LV and 2 LRs in the list of accusers. If I understand correctly, there are no admins capable of reminding people of the rules and asking them to stop making false accusations in public on the pretext that the admins are also LVs and LRs?

The rules do have this ...