I'm just putting this little post here
because i think it's crazy to see a guy in vffa playing 0-5-5 and that's allowed
and even crazier the logic of the mdm currently 1-1 at half-time
#match?mid=6347146

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Frustrating?
If you win, you'll have proved that you're stronger than him ;)

frutus non surtout illogique car en réalité aucun club au monde va jouer 45min en début de match sans défenseur

I agree with valenciano, sincerely, it's really illogical without defenders, but at the time when I asked I was told it was legal.

No club in the world buys players only to sell them 10 hours later ;)
And that's just one example... 5-5-0 exists on Vf too!
It's VF ;)

In the midst of all these discussions, I'd missed a post complaining about an opponent's tactics. It's almost refreshing. It's like a springtime that starts with a fight between Cetautomatix and Ordralphabétix over fish that isn't fresh. :D

Don't worry, he's just scored, it'll settle down!

i don't understand in a match is it forbidden and if it's done the points go to another agreement why not the same thing in an official club competition because it's ridiculous we'll never see a big club doing that
and i just remember my club valencia doing this at arsernal with 2 dfc in the end it ended 7-1

whether I win or lose I don't find it very logical in an official match I'm talking and I'm not ranting I'm just saying an opinion as it exists in an official match.
I'm not saying that I don't think it's the right thing to do, I'm just saying that I think it's the right thing to do.

As Misha said... you need to freshen things up a bit ;)

Fucking hell... I've had a casualty in the last year of my coef 21 progression... just after the return of another casualty... so I can't stock up on training !!!

Where to post !? ^^

fraicheur tu vois ca et europa league ou conference league lol
who face this in a friendly but this is an official tournament that would also be the rule especially if punished in a match is

GG Valenciano, you've conquered the insurmountable ;)

final score 2-1
je félicite mon adverse pas connecter pour cette tactique folle car sans défenseurs le mdm lui a donner que 2 but contre lui sans le milieu et sans sa défense.
vive vf ca devient de plus en importe quoi mais bien triste de voir ca en compétition officielle.
bonne soirée et bonne saison a tous

I imagine if he would have won the game 🤣
He had almost 500 state in attack at the start of the game.
If he had put in 1 defender, he would have won 😜

The position of the outfield players is not one of the 17 laws of the game.
It was the coaches, fans and journalists who decided to call the players "defenders", "midfielders" and "strikers" and to place them on a 3-5-2, 4-4-2 map... as if they were fixed pawns.

As far as I'm concerned, if you want to put 11 strikers in, that should be your right. It doesn't make sense. You're going to lose. I used to do it at FIFA99 with Batistuta in central defence ... But you should be able to do it. ^^

ok mais un attaquant a aucun impacte en défense, idem pour un mol et le mdc sont former tres peu en défense et sans tacle, placement ou puissance donc pas logique que le mdm met aussi peu de consequance un tactique aussi folle voila je viens juste signaler un truc que je trouve pas logique et interdit en match is
bonne soirée

I sympathise.
I've already had occasion to point out the exaggeration of a forced rebalancing of the mdm (#forum?topic=165298), when at the origin of the match there is a real imbalance in level, possession or ground cover. It's the exaggeration of the "algorythmic safeguards" that Aymeric should re-evaluate.

For 5 strikers, A45 had confirmed that this was not forbidden, like all compositions with a maximum of 5 players per sector.

For me it's only forbidden in the regulations is (and it depends on the division maybe).

I agree with Val on this one, having 0 defenders and not conceding a goal, it's a stain, regardless of the solutions to win or otherwise. It just looks bad.

If Mourinho was on vf we'd have had 6-4-0 with the striker at full-back after the 1/0 "-"

open a topic for information and it can not stay clean without fighting against me or afu moreover I am SV in div5 so stop your ego problem against me or afu please voila

Did Montpellier play with defenders last season? I don't think so.
Joking aside. For my part, it's true that I'm not a fan of these 4-1-5 or 0-5-5 tactics... It's a bit vicious but you have to deal with it, there's no choice. Except if one day there's a reform and at least 2 players per line.

Thank you Val now we can't play like this it's blocked ... it was a nice tactical option when we're behind it's really nonsense always complaining and making the game regress 😐

The opponent Valenciano mentioned is in my league. He knocked me out of the TaB Cup last season, and he beat me twice in the league with his 5 strikers. That really annoyed me. But I see it as an option like any other, an accepted tactical choice, and I've never complained about it. I never play that way, but I think we should still be free to field the system of our choice without being restricted... There's room for 5 ATs and 5 ASs... Why are we limited to 5, and now 4? It just doesn't make sense.
Obviously, playing without an IRL defender is suicidal and doomed to failure. But VF isn't real football... And that's why we love it...

the topic of the 5 attackers in the bug part was opened by pierrabou and not by me so thank you not to mix everything between an information post like this and a request on the bug part of the vforum!
merci d'avance

It's a shame, it would have been interesting to have an extra tactical option. While we're at it, let's impose the 4-4-2 / 4-3-3 and 4-5-1 compositions, and no one will be surprised by a composition that's out of the ordinary.

I often play with 5 strikers... I'm not going to enjoy it! Might as well leave it at that, sell the whole team and bye bye VF !!!!

I think it's crazy that 5-5-0s are banned in IS and that we're now going in the opposite direction because the minority who are complaining are making more noise...
5-5-0 still allowed outside IS and 5 forwards banned 😂
Unbelievable...
If we can't go back, we should at least counterbalance by imposing one player per line...

What language does Valanciano speak?
I think there's a fine line between tactical choices and algebra. I think it's good that there's sometimes a bit of realism and above all FOOTBALL because vf stands for virtua foot. If it was all virtual with 3-legged players, jet packs and far too much randomness, the game would be called virtua probability and would replace the maths option at the baccalaureate... Rather than banning certain bizarre choices, I think the algorithm needs to be rethought a bit so that a team with no defence, no midfield or attack or that plays with ostriches +300 pts styles is weakened compared to a more balanced team. But that's just my opinion and I understand what other people think.

I admit, who is Valenciano?

Maybe that's part of the answer:
Count the number of offensive and defensive profiles.
I think there are more offensive profiles than defensive ones. (Examples: DFL taking the corridor, DFC going up on set-pieces).
So you have defenders who can bring points to the attack, while there are no strikers with a defensive profile (apart from the offside style). Or attacking midfielders who attack but can't defend.

Perhaps Aymeric just wants to keep a balance?

I mean, someone who wants to defend has to be able to oppose the same "force" as their attacking opponent.
Perhaps removing an attacker slot will help to achieve that balance?

Yop Magpie,
I think there are defensive mocs out there.... We're already on the verge of the Bogdanoff brothers in this respect.
And I thought I'd seen styles where you'd play 0-5-5 and you'd have a pretty good defence.
I also remember a competition where everyone had to play 0-5-5... maybe with free players, I can't remember, but it was a nice concept.
In short, I think it's a shame.

Styles, marking, tactical options
If you keep complaining whenever you lose, soon there'll only be one way to play VF

You talk about consistency, is it consistent to make 5 changes at the 45th minute every game? Should that be removed from the game too, because it's not consistent with reality?

In short, nonsense, and I've never used 5-5-0, but give people a bit of time to test and try things out, otherwise we'll have a sanitised game based on PC vs CA that changes every two minutes and we'll all be bored.