Isn't there any way of putting restrictions back on the creation of an Entente? Having a club of a certain level, increasing costs...
I see a lot of new players arriving on the game and creating Ententes without really understanding how it works, and in the end they end up with 2-3 new players in an Entente, without really understanding the important mechanisms of the game. There are others who are alone in an Agreement and their last connection dates back to 2023😭
It kind of takes away the charm of Ententes...

New managers who create agreements make it easy to do the mentoring bonus, as well as increasing the bank through inactive accounts. I agree that there are too many inactive agreements

Arazosv: Les nouveaux managers qui créent des ententes, ça permet de faire la prime mentoring facilement, en plis d'augmenter la banque par des comptes inactifs. Je suis d'accord sur le fait qu'il y ait trop d'ententes inactives

What do you mean by inactive account? Let's be clear, creating a 2nd account is forbidden
Members who stop playing are inactive accounts
The mentoring bonus is also between level 1 ????
To return to the subject I tried for a time to recover members in these agreements but did not have much response for me active agreements in d5 there are few
Example the dx family which I had created proto is all alone inside they are 3 members but 2 stopped the game

kiki-sainté: Qu est ce que t appelle compte inactif ? Qu on soit bien d accord se créer un 2 ème comptes est interdit
Des membres qui arrêtent le jeu ça c est des comptes inactifs
La prime mentoring c est aussi entre niveau 1 ????
Pour revenir au sujet j ai essayé pendant un temps de récupéré des membres dans ces ententes mais pas eu beaucoup de réponse pour moi des ententes actifs en d5 il y en a peu
Exemple la dx family que j avais créé proto est tout seul dedans ils sont 3 membres mais 2 on arrêté...

An inactive account is an account that no longer plays for me, which happens frequently with new managers, but if they have joined the agreement, the bank goes up by 50k per week + mentoring bonus for those who have approached it.
What's more, the agreements whose managers are blocked are still there, like gerard gg's agreement, so that's a lot of bogus agreements in the d5 ranking

I've had to kick out members who have stopped playing the game, so there's no point in keeping them, at least that's my opinion

I agree, and it makes for a more active agreement

It gets worse! There's an agreement called "à donné" (with the mistake in the text) with 20 clubs, all of which have been inactive for months. 😅

Misha: Y a bien pire ! Y a une entente qui s’appelle « à donné » (avec la faute dans le texte) avec 20 clubs, tous inactifs depuis des mois. 😅

i think it deserves the title of "agreement"

There was a time, not so long ago, when you had to be a VIP member and spend 500 million to create an agreement..

500M for a deal is not that far off

Oh yeah, it was really reserved for the elite to make deals 😂

But at least we didn't have all these agreements

Arazosv: Ah ouais, c'était vraiment réservé à l'élite de se faire des ententes 😂

It was to counteract the fact that things were cascading and to avoid too many phantom agreements. And then, it cried, Aymeric opened up and a few months later, we're back where we started.

There's a happy medium, but it's often hard to find on video ^^
As I'm sure you said above, you'd probably already need a level 3 club to create an agreement and let's say 50M. We're a long way from where we were before, but it still makes you think a bit more than the current open bar.

Yes, I agree, maybe level 3 is still a bit early, but the idea is yes

In the early days of VF, you had to be level 5 and have 30 million euros to feed the cartel's finances

Arazosv: Oui je suis d'accord, peut-être niveau 3 c'est encore un peu tôt, mais dans l'idée oui

That was obviously an example. As titi says, you could go back to level 5 and a 50M, for example, to create a cartel. Although at that time, being level 5 was MUCH faster than it is today. That's why I was proposing more level 3, or even 4, the aim being above all for it to be a real project for a club that stays a bit more focused on the game than 2 hours.

To make a request to create an agreement if the project is valid the admins validate if it is wobbly it is a refusal to create the agreement in this second case, that which deposited the request will be able to ask with the many agreements with the abandonment if it can make its project with their agreements
(I know what I'm proposing is boring, but it would help to get abandoned agreements up and running again!

It's a false problem, if there are 5000 agreements, there will be 5000 agreements, the aim of the agreement or of chairing an agreement is to discover another part of the game, sometimes to help players, sometimes to play differently. The aim of an agreement is not to be in div1. I think that creating an agreement in this way is interesting. Now, yes, an agreement without active players doesn't make sense, but at the same time we're also eliminating 10% of the clubs that are inactive in the championship... if we try too hard to close down the game, we'll end up with nothing but old players.
Let people learn the game on their own, create, join and live without agreements. And I don't think that having 30 dead agreements has any impact on the game. All the active clubs in a dead agreement can leave the agreement..

Lulo: C’est un faux problème, s’il y a 5000ententes, il y aura 5000 ententes, le but de l’entente ou de la présidence d’une entente c’est découvrir une autre partie du jeu, parfois aider des joueurs, parfois jouer autrement. Le but des entente n’est pas d’être en div1. Je pense que la création comme ça est intéressant. Maintenant oui une entente sans joueur actif n’a pas de sens mais à ce moment on supprime aussi 10% des clubs qui se trouvent inactif en championnat , … à trop vouloir fermer le jeu,...

Lulo, the problem isn't so much that
It's more about a subject that borders on anti-cheating.
From what we read, it would appear that some cartels have become specialists in hosting inactive clubs just after they've been created.
If that's the case, it can generate a lot of money in the medium term... Not to mention the monitoring business
In my opinion, our anti-cheating admins will have to keep a close eye on this (they may already be doing so).

There's actually a happy medium to be found. Being able to create an agreement without any real restrictions seems to generate situations like those mentioned. On the other hand, restricting things too much creates problems of diversity, which are totally understandable.
Perhaps raising it to level 3 + 50M is a more balanced move

Unfortunately, this does increase cheating

Socrate: Effectivement cela accroît la triche malheuresement

hi
it's much easier to transfer money without taxes via federations than via so-called ghost agreements.
i'll go to the extreme as an example
50niv1 who receive 2m per week that's 100m per week and from that you take away the tax ...
at least on the federations we are not taxed so I doubt that it impacts the game as much as we pretend on cheating.

redbull77: coucou
il est bien plus facile de transferer du pognon sans les taxes via les federations que par des ententes dites fantomes .
je vais faire dans l extreme comme exemple
50niv1 qui recoivent 2m par semaine ca fait 100m par semaine et a ceci on retire la taxe ...
au moins sur les federations on est pas taxe donc je doute que cela impact autant le jeux que l on le pretend sur la triche .

I'm assuming he's not just throwing this out at random and that, if he ́e says it, it's because the admins have noticed. After that, of course, if you want to cheat, there are plenty of options.

OMstar83: Je suppose qu'il ne balance pas ça au hasard et que, s'il le dit, c'est que les admins l'ont remarqué. Après, bien entendu, si on veut tricher, il y a plein d’options.

the question is not that they noticed this weakness on the agreements which for me do not have 1 on the bottom because the gain compared to the time that you break the balls for the creation of the niv1, for the time or you must return them 1 minima active to perceive the 2m of the week always by changing the ips ...
the associated mentoring, mouais there are bcp of other means to make dough, less boring, less visible than by phantom agreements ...
there was 1 time when 1 player who spent years on the game, spent time with his agreement and when he wanted to leave the game for x reasons could and especially could give back what his agreement gave him when he arrived and that was the soul of vf ...
too many rules and you lose ...
the worst part of all this is when I see that some damien clubs have been banned and should have been deleted have been debanned more than 2 years ago and when I ask the question who debanned them even if I know the answer already for facts much more serious than that I tell myself that it is not these few poor millions that will change vf ...
it's not nostalgia, it's just common sense.
look at Gilles where he is now, he was sanctioned for having taken 1 billion via the panel at the time and was sanctioned for that, just to quote him as an example, speudos change but not manners, at least he has kept his.
regarde la page des enchers cb il y a de joueurs au dela de 10 non 5m sur les 15pages, cela ne shockque personne a part moi?
ENCORE 1fois ce n'est pas le vrai fond du pb de l'argent sur vf ,
l'utopie a ceci, c'est que bcp ralent pour ces niv 1 du store pourtant ils sont limiter sur la quantitétee et paye 80etoiles au bout de 6 fois pour 8pauvres millions meme la .....
je me suis dit leur fout la paix et laisse faire et vous fais plaisir , je prend le vip pour prendra 1 pt jeune et même la je vois que la base de données des jeunes joueurs n'a pas bougé , ceux partis dernière saison sont la et il ne reste plus que ceux que personne voulait , j'en prendsrais quand meme 1 , mais même la c'est 1 travail bacle pourtant c'était pas complique de changer cette base la .
damien cette phrase que tu dis la