LeBrasseur |

01/12/2024

Hello everyone,
As a candidate for the presidency of the Federation of Liechtenstein, I'm taking the liberty of posting here the link to go and vote for this federation. I hope you can give me your vote so that I can help this small nation grow.
#elections?election=293
Thank you in advance for your confidence.
LeBrasseur


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maxence97300 |

02/12/2024

Gentlemen and ladies, I'm LeBrasseur's main competitor, and I'm sure he's promised you beer in exchange for a vote, but you can rest assured that I'll be Saké for everyone 😂


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LeBrasseur |

02/12/2024

Yes, of course, beer in all its forms and for all tastes: Leffe Blonde, Leffe Rituel 9°, Leffe 1240, Leffe Ruby, Leffe Blanche, Leffe Nectar, Leffe Triple and at this time of year, the Christmas Leffe


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LeBrasseur Oui oui, bien évidemment de la bière en veux-tu en voilà sous toutes ses formes et pour tous les goûts : Leffe Blonde, Leffe Rituel 9°, Leffe 1240, Leffe Ruby,…

maxence97300 |

02/12/2024

Oh shit, even I'm voting for you on this one! 😂🍻


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LeBrasseur Oui oui, bien évidemment de la bière en veux-tu en voilà sous toutes ses formes et pour tous les goûts : Leffe Blonde, Leffe Rituel 9°, Leffe 1240, Leffe Ruby,…

villa |

02/12/2024

and alcohol-free beer?


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LeBrasseur Oui oui, bien évidemment de la bière en veux-tu en voilà sous toutes ses formes et pour tous les goûts : Leffe Blonde, Leffe Rituel 9°, Leffe 1240, Leffe Ruby,…

Aguado |

02/12/2024

Not just Leffe, please, the real thing!

I'll sit back, savour and watch your election battle!


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villa et bière sans alcool ?

LeBrasseur |

03/12/2024

0% blond or white, of course


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Aguado Pas que de la Leffe stp, sors nous la vraie de vraie! Un bon Orban de quelques années bien frais, je m’assieds, je déguste et je regarde votre bataille pour l’…

LeBrasseur |

03/12/2024

De la Trappiste si tu veux, du la Paix Dieu.... so many possibilities to serve you


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LeBrasseur Bien évidemment blonde ou blanche en 0%

villa |

03/12/2024

as long as it's drinkable, I'll take anything.
Even violet if it exists


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Jallow |

02/12/2024

😂😂


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Brutus |

03/12/2024

So I'm voting for Apedo ^^


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LeBrasseur |

19/12/2024

Just a quick up to say I'm counting on your votes


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LeBrasseur |

28/12/2024

Hello everyone,
Thank you to everyone who voted for me. The verdict is in, I didn't get the federation, which is a bit disappointing but that's the game.
However, is there any way of seeing the votes afterwards, because apart from seeing that it was my opponent who got it, I can't see any way of knowing whether it was by a large margin or not..... which makes things even more obscure and unclear.........
If that's not the case, I think it should be something to improve even if I'm well aware that it's certainly not a priority for the game.
Thank you all in any case, but I'll save my round for another time.
Sincerely
LeBrasseur


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k3vin59218 |

29/12/2024

Surely it should be possible to do this?
There is the number of thumbs for the subtitles and interviews, doing the same for the number of votes would be a good thing even if it is not necessarily necessary (just like the thumbs on the interviews)


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LeBrasseur |

29/12/2024

It's just so that we have a visual of the result because you don't get a message to tell you that the elections are open, for example, that the votes are over and the result... so it's a bit too obscure I think.


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LeBrasseur C'est simplement pour que l'on ai un visuel du résultat car là, tu ne recois pas de message pour te dire que les élections sont ouvertes par exemple, que les v…

pieutte |

29/12/2024

There's nothing obscure about it.
You don't have a big deal that helped you get the job, that's all. The result is just logical.


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pieutte Y a rien d obscure. Tu n as pas une grosse entente qui t as aider pour avoir le poste c'est tout, le résultat est juste logique.

Sikora |

29/12/2024

There's no logic until there are facts or proof. I understand the frustration.


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pieutte Y a rien d obscure. Tu n as pas une grosse entente qui t as aider pour avoir le poste c'est tout, le résultat est juste logique.

Nicularo |

29/12/2024

He's not contesting the fact that he lost, he just wants the results of the vote (and he's right to ask for them)
These should be visible at the end of the vote to see how many votes separated the candidates


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Morten34 |

29/12/2024

The results of the votes for the Federations have never been published, even we admins don't have access to the results, sorry.


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LeBrasseur |

31/12/2024

I don't know how reassuring that is. It means that anything can happen from above....


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LeBrasseur Je ne sais pas si c'est tellement rassurant ça. Ca veut dire qu'il peut se passer n'importe quoi d'en haut en gros....

Morten34 |

31/12/2024

So you think Aymeric is manipulating the results? Well, let's see..


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Morten34 Donc tu penses qu’Aymeric trafique les résultats? Voyons…

Demi-cerveau |

31/12/2024

I totally agree with Morten: the danger doesn't come from above, but from below. Tomorrow you decide to create 50 multi-accounts. On each account you take a single action: vote for the federation, then forget about it. No transfers, no illegal actions .... Before an admin discovers all the multi-accounts, things could get complicated.

And that's why it wouldn't be a bad idea for there to be a list of results with the voters for each federation, not accessible to everyone of course, but which would eliminate this kind of risk.


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Morten34 Donc tu penses qu’Aymeric trafique les résultats? Voyons…

LeBrasseur |

01/01/2025

No, not at all, but it can be influenced, like MDM, by constant changes, so I'm just asking for a bit of clarity on all these things.


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Lebaygue |

29/12/2024

It should be added in the manual that being part of one of the 4-5 big cartels will open up the game 100%... and that otherwise you'll only have access to one game... whether you pay or not.
The game is padlocked by a few agreements, which is clearly a shame from the point of view of the game's success.
For this kind of thing, limiting the number of votes in the same agreement to 5, for example, would restore a bit of fairness, even if I doubt it's feasible.


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Magpie |

29/12/2024

However, it seems to me that some federations have no candidates...
What you say is probably true for the "big" federations (Germany, France, etc.)
But there are a lot of federations that don't have any candidates, it seems to me. So it's not 'locked in'.
That said, the question does arise for the big federations.

After all, being part of an agreement is also about camaraderie. You build up your address book. There's something to be said for that. It seems 'logical' to me that you're dealing with someone who plays 'solo' or with limited contacts?
Even if, in the end, any VF can vote, you're free to canvass.

But it's interesting to note that there's bound to be room for improvement in this area


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Socrate |

29/12/2024

You have to admit that there's some truth in what you say @Lebaygue


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Demi-cerveau |

29/12/2024

We should also consider limiting multi-account votes, but it's complicated 🫣.


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Lebaygue |

29/12/2024

I agree with you Magpie, being part of an agreement, a good one if possible, opens the doors to understanding the game, to help that you won't find elsewhere and a fortiori if you persist, to a prize list, so far, no worries.
After that, it's the underlying power in the other arcana of the game that raises questions.
Of course, who cares about Liechtenstein? But at the end of the day, it's a member of a renowned cartel that has it all the same.
That the big nations are for the managers of the big cartels, well, at a pinch, why not, but even the crumbs you take for yourself... and that's a cause for concern from my point of view.
I don't want to take away the success of an agreement, which it deserves, it's just limiting its impact on the "bonuses" of the game apart from the Cup and the D1 agreement ranking.
The fact that a member of a big agreement says on the discord or the forum that you have to vote for him in such and such a thing and it will be recorded, that's intrinsically rubbish... there's no longer any notion of merit... whereas when you, for example, the CP, win a title whether it's the Cup or the standings or both, there's merit no matter what.
That's all there is to it.


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maxence97300 |

30/12/2024

Otherwise I may have won the election because of my candidacy and not because of my deal? 😅
It's a shame to always see the negative in this game, this was the third federation I've applied to and it's the first time I've won the elections, yet I've always been in the same agreement ...


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k3vin59218 |

30/12/2024

Personally, I voted in this election, I don't remember your application but I voted on the basis of that 😄
Then I look at voc clubs to see if they are serious or not (because clubs that have just been created can stop at any time)


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LeBrasseur |

31/12/2024

Congratulations to you,
I'm not questioning that at all. It's just that I would have liked to have some information at the end of the vote to say that your candidacy for the Liechtenstein federation election was not successful. The results are available at ....
What bothers me is not knowing (number of voters, final result indicated as invalid by (to find out I had to go to the federation to see that it was you, which is a shame), even to possibly repost elsewhere later (even though this clearly has a cost, which I'm wondering if it's justified, lol)
In any case, if it can move things forward a bit in this part of the game, it might not be a bad thing


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LeBrasseur Félicitation à toi, Je ne remets pas ça en cause du tout. Juste, j'aurai aimé avoir une information à l'issue de la fin du vote pour dire votre candidature à l…

maxence97300 |

31/12/2024

Yes, your basic intervention is noble and could move things forward, but it's those that followed that went astray, as they often do on the Forum


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