hello i have just redone my staff with manager train 90points
and i was very quickly disappointed with the result
my old staff was 82points as it was getting old i decided to take on young people and train them to 90points
total cost of the process + 50m
but I don't see any benefit to this expenditure because, for example, I've just had 2 injuries.
with my old 82point physio I would get back 20 hours with the new physio where I spent 10m to train him at 90point he also gets back 20 hours
another example my marqueting manager with my old 82point was earning 130-150k and I sold him by mistake so I had to take on a new rm as the other was in training so I bought a 77 point and this one is earning me 150k to 180k a day

it would be nice to have a bit of logic in there and an expense of 50m to at least give a result

i propose to review staff influence per point and a 90pts gives more results than an 85pts or 77pts.
no need to increase influence but balance staff influence per point gained

Thank you for your sacrifice in any case, you are moving science forward 🤝

for years now, there hasn't been much difference between an 80s staff and a 90s staff. Almost none
I don't see the point of spending so much money when there was no certainty that you'd gain an advantage.
An 80 NG staff is very good, there's no need to aim for imaginary excellence

Zeus: ça fait des années qu'il n'y a pas beaucoup de différence entre un staff 80 et 90. Voir quasi nulle
Je vois pas la finalité de dépenser autant d'argent alors qu'il n'y avait aucune certitude que tu gagnes un avantage.
Un staff 80 NG c'est très bon pas besoin d'aller viser l'excellence imaginaire

Mmmh allow me to doubt, for an EA 90 there is indeed a difference (tiny but a difference nonetheless 😉 )
If you do it with a young enough staff, in the long term I think you're a winner, even despite the costs of the course

Drezzo35: Mmmh permet moi de douter, pour un EA 90 il y a bien une différence (minime mais différence quand-même 😉)
Si tu le fais avec un staff assez jeune , sur le long terme je pense que tu es gagnant même ceux malgré les frais du stage

Yes, but for me it's not profitable to spend so much for such a tiny contribution :)
I always aim for efficiency and therefore the performance of a decision

Zeus: Oui mais pour moi c'est pas rentable de dépenses autant pour un apport si infime :)
Je vise toujours l'efficience et donc la performance d'une décision

Let's say 14M to get 90
If you do it with a young player you can train 3/4 easy generation, roughly 11 (players) X 3/4
Frankly, it's less than a million a season to get a little bonus on the 80 😉

Drezzo35: Allez disons 14M pour l'avoir 90
Si tu le fais avec un jeune tu peux former 3/4 génération facile , en gros 11 (joueurs) X 3/4
Franchement ça va c'est moins d un million par saison pour avoir un petit bonus sur les 80 😉

When you talk about bonuses, what do you mean by bonuses? :D

Quite simply, it gives more than the 80 😅

Drezzo35: Tout simplement il donne plus que le 80 😅

Ouai pas convaincu mouhahaha
But then again 10m expenses but 50M I don't see the point mdr

I'm talking about EA, but for the others I have no idea

I've just set up a recruiter at 90. He'll be up and running tomorrow, and I hope he'll bring me some good youngsters

You might be disappointed...
i've had an rj90 for 3 seasons and not a pot80, not even a 75...., while others are getting them every season.

I should have done that, I wouldn't have increased my staffs ^^ they're currently going to 89, so I'll see what happens once I'm done, but never mind

well in a first was not any of the little result between a 80pts and 90pts and I spent 10m per staff so a total of 50m for the 5

voila aymeric si tu passe part tu pense changer ca ou pas car c'est vraiment realiste et c'est une vrai arnaque

The word scam may be a bit too much 🤭😅

Drezzo35: Le mot arnaque est peut être un peu too much 🤭😅

🙆🤣

Drezzo35: Le mot arnaque est peut être un peu too much 🤭😅

Especially since it's been known for a few seasons now. And it's the player who decides to put so much money into a staff. In this case, we're not talking about a scam, but...

All right, I'll try to decipher everything and I'll be back.

it's great fun when you know about it
and I can see that you enjoy it.
it's really annoying this vforum but an improvement on this point might be useful as it's the link
i'm sure you'll want to keep it up to date with the latest news and updates

VALENCIANO: c'est tres marrant quand on est au courant
et ca vous amuse bien je vois .
vraiment pénible ce vforum mais bon une amélioration sur ce point sera peu etre utile comme c'est le lieu
pour le petit malin qui se moque de moi hésitera pas a faire appelle au admin ok car marre de vos gaminerie la

I think you need to calm down a bit... and you can't issue a fine as soon as you're not happy with an answer. That's what a forum is all about. Above all, there's no mockery, I'm really trying to understand.

As for the staffs, as I said, it's always been the same... you should have asked the question in the apprentice house, within your agreement or even on the mini chat, that could have avoided the 50M investment.

After that, there's no guarantee that Aymeric won't change things soon. You might get a return on your investment then.

i just put a request for improvement in this part for something that brings nothing and makes spend money for nothing but all I receive is mockery free and unfounded.
i'll say it again, it's just sad, all this for one thing, so I wasn't aware of it, otherwise why would I have set up a 90-strong staff for nothing?
met bon je vois une vraie amélioration sur ce point n'intéresse personne donc laissons les staff 77 donner le même effet un staff 90 comme vous en avez rien en foutre et préférez vous amuser a se moquer de moi
sur ce bonne soiree

VALENCIANO: je met juste un demande amélioration dans cette partie pour un truc qui apporte rien et fait dépenser de l'argent pour rien mais tout ce que je reçoit c'est des moqueries gratuit et non fonder .
je le redit c'est juste triste tout ca pour une chose donc était pas au courant sinon pourquoi j'aurais monter un staff a 90 donc au max pour rien
met bon je vois une vrai amélioration sur ce point n’intéresse personne donc laissons les staff 77 donner le même effet un staff 90 comme vous en

It's not that nobody's interested, it's just that only Aymeric can do something about it, and I think a lot of people have been talking about staff members for years, myself included. We all agree (or nearly so) that it seems abnormal that the contribution of a 90 staff is so minimal compared to an 80, especially given the cost of a course.
There are two solutions to this: move the cursor according to the level of the staff and/or lower the price of a course. However, the difference should not be too great either, to avoid creating an imbalance.

Once again, there's no need to get so defensive and victimised. It's perfectly possible to trade without getting worked up over anything. It's still a game, you exchange ideas, you like some things, you don't like others, that's just the way it is. There's no drama.

I'm sure Aymeric will make some changes to the staffs at some point, but it's certainly not a priority at the moment. There's been a lot of change over the last year or so, and that's positive, even if not all the changes suit everyone. At least it's changing, adding things and changing others, and that's not bad.

Have a good evening :)

merci om
and here aymeric if you read us can you change that please
and if others have an idea on this subject tell your ideas