passion |
7 month agoHello everyone
Since 42 the rpprac has been engaged in a legitimate and peaceful struggle, but the French state doesn't see it that way. The only response it gives is the violence of its police forces against peaceful demonstrators
The French media relay false information in order to mislead public opinion
A people who are simply asking to be treated on an equal footing with those in mainland France have no right to make demands
The békés, who are the descendants of the colonists, have built their wealth on the blood of the people of Martinique and have been compensated since the abolition of slavery. They have perpetrated their domination over the people and continue to do so.
Today, the awakening of citizens is being expressed, but the large retailers continue to want to keep their comfort and do not agree to make an effort so that we can be treated equally... to be continued
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Zeus |
7 month agopassion: Bonjour à tous
Depuis 42 le rpprac est dans un combat légitime et pacifique mais l’état Français ne le voit pas ainsi la seule réponse qu’il donne c’est la violence de ses forces de l’ordre face à des manifestants pacifiques
Les médias De l’hexagone relayent de fausses informations afin de tromper l’opinion publique
Un peuple qui demande juste d’être traité à l’égal de ceux de l’hexagone n’a pas le droit de revendiquer
Les békés qui sont les descendants des c
What is ?
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Lebaygue |
7 month agopassion: ??
Often on this game, when you talk about serious things, you can't expect answers worthy of the name.
A blessing in disguise, or the other way round, I'm not sure... once you've realised that there's nothing to expect from the current 'pseudo' community, you'll have taken a step forward, whatever it is, mate.
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passion |
7 month agoLebaygue: Souvent sur ce jeu,quand on parle de choses sérieuses, faut pas s'attendre à des réponses dignes de ce nom.
Un mal pour un bien,ou l'inverse,je sais pas trop...une fois compris que sorti des carottes virtuelles et des projets d amélioration égoïstes,y aura rien à attendre de cette "pseudo" communauté actuelle,t auras fait un pas en avant quoiqu'il en soit mec.
I see .... thank you very much lebaygue
Kisses 😉
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pixou |
7 month agoHello
I don't know if I'll be able to give a worthy reply (as LEBAYGUE said), but my feeling is that it's difficult to give an opinion on a subject that we don't master.
Can such a debate take place on a forum like this without the risk of it flaring up?
information and misinformation are recurrent topics in the news, depending on which side we're on.
There are certainly solutions to be found. Let's hope they are found quickly.
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passion |
6 month agoPixou
This is a subject that I know perfectly well, as I experience it on a daily basis
This is information, not a debate
I'm talking about Martinique because the information disseminated by the French media is poorly relayed and France hexagonale has experienced this kind of movement through the yellow waistcoats
The fight being waged here should be followed by the rest of France because we are all affected by the high cost of living
And to answer yes, this subject has its place
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guantanamera |
6 month agoI'm interested to know what the people of the French overseas territories are demanding in the Caribbean, the Indian Ocean and the Pacific... because there's obviously a lot of grumbling going on everywhere.
I've travelled a lot, I've lived in countries of the 1/3 world and even a dictatorship. I've seen several styles of government and demands that are totally justified. But right now, I have to admit that I don't understand the demands of the French overseas territories. When I try to understand, all I often find are complaints and criticisms, but I find it extremely difficult to come up with proposals or even solutions.
Can you explain your point of view, bearing in mind that my understanding is that of an 8 and a half year old child?
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passion |
6 month agoThank you Guant for your testimonial
You should know that the debates are visible on YouTube. The round tables are a first in terms of communication because you can follow them and form your own opinion on the various players present and the content of the debates, and you can quickly understand that you are dealing with people who are not prepared to make concessions
To see these debates type rpprac round table
To be continued
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maxence97300 |
6 month agoAs a native of French Guiana, I understand some of your feelings Passion, in fact the békés are also present here, but we don't have the same history with them, and their past actions have not had the same repercussions on the territory. Nevertheless, the current debate on the high cost of living is common to all the overseas territories and I've experienced some of the social movements in French Guiana... As I've also worked in the retail sector since I was very young, I'm unfortunately also aware that the problem can't be solved by the economic players alone, but by everyone at the same time, politicians and others. Because a lot of people are lining their pockets on the back of the taxpayer in our ultra-marine territories...
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OMstar83 |
6 month agoguantanamera: Moi ça m'intéresse de savoir un peu ce que les habitants des outremers revendiquent dans les caraïbes comme dans l'océan indien ou pacifique... car ça grogne de partout visiblement.
J'ai beaucoup beaucoup voyagé, j'ai vécu dans des pays du 1/3 monde et même une dictature. J'ai vu plusieurs style de gouvernements et revendications totalement justifiées. Mais là, j'avoue ne pas comprendre les revendications des outremers. Quand j'essaie de comprendre, je ne trouve souvent que des plaint
Well, it's not just grumbling, it's looting, burning and killing. I'm from New Caledonia and we kind of started the whole thing on 13 May. That said, where I come from, the high cost of living has been with us for a long time and if it's blown up, it's because of quite different things. It's more political, but that would take a long time to explain. If you want to sum it up, put the words independentist, loyalist, referendum, law on the unfreezing of the electorate in a jar, mix them up and you get what happened.
The unfortunate thing about all this is that we tend to forget the real victims caused by these movements. Namely the hundreds of businesses and therefore jobs that are going up in smoke, and therefore the growing impoverishment. Distrust between populations. The direct and indirect deaths caused (when you burn down one of the only dialysis centres, dozens of people die, when you block access to the only hospital in the country, the same thing, etc.) And a whole host of other things, but as it's almost 11pm at home and I'm beat, I'll talk about it later ^^
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passion |
6 month agoThe overseas territories all have different histories and different demands, but the high cost of living is common to all of them
In May 68, the movement had to be extended to the whole of France, and we know the sacrifices that this entailed in human and structural terms
I don't condone acts of vandalism that pollute people's demands, but I believe that these days it's often through destructive actions that the government struggles to address the problem being denounced
For your information, an agreement has been signed by the main players, with the exception of the RPPRAC, and I have to tell you that I'm disappointed in our elected representatives and the representatives of our state
Once again, the békés have won their case and we have been betrayed by our MPs, who have sided with these people who continue to make their profits on the backs of the people
I'm disgusted....
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guantanamera |
6 month agohttps://www.combien-coute.net/cout-de-la-vie/martinique/
is this correct?
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Lebaygue |
6 month agoAs soon as the best jobs are for white people, there's a problem... except on cnews where apparently Martinique hasn't been colonised, it's naturally linked to France, probably a result of tectonic plates.
It's a bit the same in metropolitan France, except that between "whites", it's less obvious, even if it's starting to show.
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passion |
6 month agoguantanamera: https://www.combien-coute.net/cout-de-la-vie/martinique/
https://www.insee.fr/fr/statistiques/1908423
est-ce correct ?
If that were true I'd be happy
Check out the Kiprix website, which compares prices in France and the French overseas territories
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passion |
6 month agoHello
As you can see, the movement is spreading throughout France. Yesterday, Bordeaux held a march to denounce what is happening to us in the French overseas departments and territories
Today the demonstration is taking place in Paris
The rpprac is in Paris and the fight goes on without the media doing a story on it..
I hope France will wake up....
This government is going to be the worst of the Macron era..
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Zeus |
6 month agopassion |
6 month agoIt's not politics, sorry
And this is a free discussion, it seems to me..
I'm simply informing you to raise your awareness, it's a common battle for all those who have the intelligence to understand it
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guantanamera |
6 month agoIn fact, I don't see the political side of the topic. It's more social. And given the number of people who have reacted, I don't think there will be too much debate or unleashing of passions (no pun intended)
Let's not ban for the sake of banning. I think it's interesting, even if I find it a bit hard to agree with their ideas (yes, I've lived in a real dictatorship), because I understand that food is more expensive to get to these paradise islands than it is in mainland France, and what's more, they don't have to pay the heating bills in winter that do in mainland France. What's more, when you look at the cost of living in the other Caribbean islands, our overseas departments aren't particularly badly treated. Or have I been misinformed?
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passion |
6 month agoGuant
The information being circulated in mainland France is false
Supermarket distributors have built up monopolies, particularly on the transport of goods. They do not respect free competition and therefore charge prices up to 200 per cent higher than in mainland France
It's incomprehensible that some non-food retailers not controlled by the békés are aligned with prices in mainland France?
This is why this movement exists
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