Nicularo |
39 days agoHello,
Every year at the end of the season I find myself with a bunch of injured players just as we're in the home straight to finish the training and the few points I lose are crucial..
It's really frustrating.
I've got 2 of them in the infirmary until the end of the season.
Do you still feel like that?
I have the impression that I'm fairly spared and that it always happens at the wrong time every season.
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Tartempion |
39 days agoMagik'jojo |
39 days agoThe same goes for me... a real pain in the arse
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Zeus |
39 days agoWe didn't have any injuries at the end of the season but in the middle of the championship, but you have to adapt and put things into perspective.
That's what substitutes are for, and working on your stamina
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Hydilik |
39 days agoSimilarly, 3 young players have been injured in a row and, of course, they are all players who are making progress.
He leaves the infirmary for another to enter.
Since the changes in stamina, I've personally noticed an increase in injuries.
In 2 seasons, I've had 8 injuries.
5 players last season and 3 players this season.
Last year, Aymeric said that he hadn't affected the injury percentage.
But he did touch on the stamina of the players. There's probably a link. Despite my vigilance, my players never start a match with less than 90% stamina and they get injured.
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Socrate |
39 days agoOver all my VF seasons, my current generation has been the most spared. And I think their stamina levels have had a lot to do with it.
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Magikcats |
39 days agoNicularo: Bonjour,
À chaque fin de saison je me retrouve avec un lot de blessés alors qu’on est dans la dernière ligne droite pour finir la formation et que les quelques points que je perds sont capitaux…
C’est ultra frustrant.
J’en ai 2 à l’infirmerie jusqu’a fin de saison.Est-ce que ça vous fait toujours ça vous aussi ?
J’ai l’impression que je suis assez épargné et que ça arrive toujours au mauvais moment chaque saison.
Almost the whole season we have 2-3 injured players + often 1 suspended, as is the case at the moment ... This season there are too many.
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Zeus |
39 days agoSocrate: Sur toutes mes saisons VF ma génération actuelle a été celle qui a été le plus épargné. Et je pense que leurs niveaux d’endurance ni y ai vraiment pas étranger.
Yes, it's clear that it comes into play, and those who complain about injuries are the ones who don't push their endurance
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myforsans |
39 days agoNicularo: Bonjour,
À chaque fin de saison je me retrouve avec un lot de blessés alors qu’on est dans la dernière ligne droite pour finir la formation et que les quelques points que je perds sont capitaux…
C’est ultra frustrant.
J’en ai 2 à l’infirmerie jusqu’a fin de saison.Est-ce que ça vous fait toujours ça vous aussi ?
J’ai l’impression que je suis assez épargné et que ça arrive toujours au mauvais moment chaque saison.
Yes, I've also noticed (for a very long time) an increase in injuries at the end of the season.
As it's quite systematic, I don't think it's just a coincidence and I think there must be a factor in the frequency of injuries, which probably increases at the end of the season
Having said that, it's fair to say that overall the number of injuries is fairly low. Having 3 injured out of a squad of 32 players may seem like a lot, but it's actually quite low compared to the reality.
If you look at any professional club at any given time, they generally have many more.
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Clamsii |
39 days agoSocrate: Sur toutes mes saisons VF ma génération actuelle a été celle qui a été le plus épargné. Et je pense que leurs niveaux d’endurance ni y ai vraiment pas étranger.
As far as injuries are concerned, I've had the same pace as before my choice of endurance
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Socrate |
39 days agoYou haven't been varnished..
I was more into rhythms like this: C. Milián
He's currently playing 50 games in a row, but I'm convinced that his streak goes back much further than that.
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Azby |
39 days agoI'm down to one casualty this season. Either it's good luck that's been going on for several seasons, or Socrates is right about endurance.
My team is slightly above the standards of VF players, in terms of stamina, to play every other day.
On the other hand, in teams that regularly complain about injuries, despite a good rotation, I rarely see many players over 15 minutes.
Either that's a bias, or there's a connection! But I don't know.
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Nicularo |
39 days agoI'm not overly affected by injuries, I don't generally have any complaints throughout the season, but as soon as you get into the last 10-15 days it's carnage.
I just wanted to get your thoughts on the matter and, in the end, I agree with Myforsan's message.
Stamina is supposed to have an influence on physical loss in matches, but I don't see how that has anything to do with injuries. Having better stamina shouldn't/shouldn't reduce the risk of injury. It's the % of fitness that can lead to injury, and at my level it's quite rigorously respected
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Zeus |
39 days agoNicularo: Je ne suis pas trop touché par les blessures, de manière générale je n’ai pas à me plaindre tout au long de la saison mais alors des qu’on rentre dans les 10-15 derniers jours c’est un carnage.
Je voulais juste avoir votre ressenti la dessus et finalement je me retrouve assez bien dans le message de Myforsan.L’endurance est censée influer sur la perte physique en match, mais je vois pas quel rapport ça peut avoir avec les blessures. Avoir une meilleure endurance ne devrait/doit
That's where I think you're wrong,
A player with stamina will be less susceptible to fatigue, which logically leads to fewer injuries
In my opinion, a player with stamina should be less injured than a player with no stamina at all
The problem is that some managers have gone crazy and removed stamina to put it in the characteristics, which gives the impression that a player with 12 stamina is enough even to play a match/2, which is incorrect.
I can see from the injuries I've had this season that they've only been to players with the lowest stamina
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myforsans |
39 days agoNo, I'm not making the same observation as you.
It has nothing to do with stamina (of course I'm not talking about players with low stamina who you play to the limit and who fall to 0 physical) because there OK you can say that it's linked to their stamina
But for the rest, in my opinion, it's irrelevant. Where I come from, a player with 10 stamina doesn't get injured twice as often as a player with 20 stamina.
What's more, the proof that it has nothing to do with the level of stamina in matches is that I'd say that this season (and previous seasons) I've had twice as many injuries in training as in matches!
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Socrate |
38 days agoSo we can quickly conclude that there is no implacable logic as to who/why/how they get injured.
Let's assume it's random and down to bad luck.
-Because one manager will show that in his case and with players with 15 stamina he will have a ton of injuries per season. Another will show that with the same profile of players, he'll get through the drops.
-Another will show that with 50 stamina he has 0 injuries for 120 days with players who have played 120 games. Another will show that with the same profile of players he has a number of injuries more or less equivalent to the players he had when he was training 15-20 endurance players.
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Le Retraité |
38 days agoWe're getting into a crazy thesis here!
What I'm saying is that there are always injuries, suspensions and so on... and over the course of 1 season, you can have 1 or 6... or even more for the unluckiest!
After that, that's just the way it is... there are no statistics on that, but I think it works out for everyone like your "carrots each season" in "friendly" matches (80% of the matches posted)... that's just the way it is!
Stop wracking your brains over :
- I've got injuries
- I've lost a 'friendly' despite having some amazing stats... it's a friendly!
- Damn it, he's suspended, that's not normal... shit!
Almost 15 years, and it's the same old story!
Seriously guys, cool
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Zeus |
38 days agoThere is one certainty that some people refuse to see, and that is that it's not serious, but in this case you have to know how to stand back and not cry that there are too many injured people!
Finally, this psychiatric syndrome has a name: denial
It's not logical to have players with 10 stamina and there's definite proof that there's a link between weakness in stamina and injury and therefore weakness in physique.
Which in itself is logical :D
Finally, when you look at the real world, that's what happens, so for me it's not illogical that a player who has a physical weakness (poor stamina) will get injured more easily than a player who is very powerful on that side!
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Zeus |
38 days agoLe Retraité: On part dans une thèse de dingue là !
Moi je dis, qu'il y a toujours des blessés, des suspendus et autres... tout cela, sur 1 saison, on peut en avoir 1 comme 6... voire plus pour les plus malchanceux !
Après, c'est comme ça... il n'y a pas de stats là-dessus mais je pense que ça tourne pour tout le monde comme vos "carottes chaque saison" sur les matchs "amicaux" (à 80% des matchs postés)... c'est comme ça !
Arrêtez de vous retourner le cerveau sur :
- J'ai des blessés
- J'ai pe
Yes, it's clear!
image](https://i.imgur.com/ukRKrsQ.gif)
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lechtidu62 |
38 days agoZeus: Justement, c'est la que tu te trompes à mon avis,
Un joueur endurant sera moins sensible à la fatigue ce qui est logique à moins de blessures
Pour moi, un joueur endurant doit être moins blessés que le joueur pas endurant du tout
Le problème c'est des managers ont pris ce délire d'enlever de l'endurance pour le mettre dans les caractéristiques ce qui donne l'impression qu'un joueur qui a 12 en endurance est suffisant même pour jouer un match/2 ce qui est incorrect.
Je vois bien dans le
And yet the only major injury I've had was S. King, who took a good 15 days ^^'
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Marcus Aurelius |
38 days agoZeus: Il y a une certitude que certains refusent de voir après en soit c'est pas grave mais dans ce cas il faut savoir prendre du recul et pas chialer qu'il y a trop de blessés !
Finalement, ce syndrome psychiatrique à un nom : Le déni
Ce n'est pas logique d'avoir des joueurs à 10 en endurance et il y a une preuve certaine qu'il y a un lien entre faiblesse en endurance et Blessure et donc faiblesse en physique.
Ce qui en soit est logique :D
Finalement, quand on regarde dans le réel, c'est ce qui
Where's the proof?
I'm not inclined towards either theory
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Zeus |
38 days agolechtidu62: Et pourtant le seul gros blessé que j'ai eu, c'est S. King qui a pris un bon 15j ^^'
Injuries can happen even to hardy players, but there are fewer injuries to hardy players
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Zeus |
38 days agoMarcus Aurelius: Et la preuve on la voit où ?
Je ne penche ni pour l'une ni pour l'autre théorie ; mais quand on affirme, faut prouver. Sinon, c'est juste une théorie balancée en l'air qui n'a pas plus de valeur que les autres.
Ce qui est acté c'est :
-moins d'endu = la barre de physique descend plus vite
-plus la barre se rapproche de zéro = plus le risque de blessure est grandLe raccourci qui voudrait que moins d'endu donne donc plus de blessures ne repose sur rien.
Il n'est prouvé nul part qu'un me
A lie that proves itself long enough becomes reality by Tonino Benacquista
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Arteta |
38 days agoYou're taking it too far, gentlemen... 🤦🏻♂️
Entire evenings are spent arguing when it's quite simply a cycle, there are seasons with and without.
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wildzap |
38 days agoAs for me, I've got 2 strikers injured in the same game, which I think is a first in 10 years of playing :p I can't remember a situation like that. Well, that's just the way it is, you have to keep the medical staff busy ^^
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kiki-sainté |
38 days ago2 injured too, including one in training, I'm at 9 injured 4 suspended far from my record of 17 injured 15 suspended in one season 😁😁😁
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Ritter |
38 days agoExactly the same, two injuries in 2 days plus two red cards, but you have to make do and create a slightly shaky team.
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Jalloh |
38 days agoMide: la traduction automatique ne fonctionne plus ?
Yes, I do too
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Nicularo |
38 days agoArteta: Vous vous prenez trop la tête messieurs... 🤦🏻♂️
C'est des soirées entières qui partent en argumentations alors qu'il s'agit tout simplement d'un cycle, y a des saisons avec et sans.
Yeah, but I've just noticed that in my case injuries happen more often at the end of the season.
It's redundant, so I didn't make this topic to make a fuss, despite Tartempion (who's as good at arguing on the VForum as he is at putting up Youtube links, funny lawyer), but just to expose a fact that's repeated almost every season and see if anyone else, like me, notices the same thing.
In itself, what's annoying is that I can't store training sessions to play them later. Players who are now injured in the final stretch of their progression are stuck as they are. It's more penalising but that's the game ^^
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Skyz |
35 days agoInjury :
#match?mid=5904529
He comes back 4 days later with another injury...
#match?mid=5909781
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Zeus |
35 days agoSkyz: Blessure :
#match?mid=5904529
Il revient 4 jours après il se blesse encore...
#match?mid=5909781
You're an unbelievable jinx ^^
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ManuM |
35 days agoI've got one who won't finish his training either... What a nightmare...
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Sikora |
35 days agoSkyz: Blessure :
#match?mid=5904529
Il revient 4 jours après il se blesse encore...
#match?mid=5909781
With a name like that, he'd be less likely to get hurt at my place!
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micha02 |
35 days agoYaya61 |
34 days agoHello,
I have the same feeling too, often injuries to young people at the same time.
Now I'm losing my youngster's 29 coef of progression... Too bad
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bubulateigne8AnsAprès |
34 days agoR. Sotes
Injured in training on the evening of 15/09 after his match. Physical condition restored to 0.
Returned on 19/09, injured in match on 24/09.
Back on 01/10, injured on 3/10 for his 2nd match following his return.
Returned on 9/10.
Summary: in 24 days, 1 training injury + 2 match injuries. No other injuries in my entire squad.
Fitness still > 45%. On the other hand, the progression coefficient this season is 33.05.
Player and training ruined.
Everything is factual except my conclusion: I don't believe for a second that it's just 'bad luck'
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Zeus |
34 days agoIn the end, I must have been lucky, even though I had 2/3 injuries in the middle of the championship
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Mide |
34 days agoi have been quite lucky this season. had just like 3 injuries mid season. none season end
ManuM |
29 days agoI'm not going to create a new "injuries at the start of the season" topic, it's getting boring to play all the games...
image](https://i.imgur.com/cCXuctp.jpeg)
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Bryouu |
29 days agoInjury at the start of the season, 3 matches 3 injuries agreed
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Demi-cerveau |
29 days agoBeginning of the season, or end of the season? Get your act together.
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seblelionnais |
29 days agoI'm relaunching the topic!
image](https://i.imgur.com/Gl8R59I.png)
I'm not convinced that endurance is a factor in injury
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lens59 |
29 days agoDemi-cerveau |
29 days agoOh yes, but start of training or end of training?
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seblelionnais |
29 days agoDemi-cerveau: Ah oui, mais début d'entraînement ou fin d'entraînement ?
Walking with my cleats on the concrete in the changing room. paff fractured or sprained ankle (I've been there ^^)
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S0upe |
29 days agoseblelionnais: En marchant avec les crampons sur le béton du vestiaire. paff fracture ou entorse de la cheville (c'est du vécu ^^)
Gourcuff would be proud of you 😂
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lens59 |
29 days agoGetting my feet caught in the ball net, who could do better?
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Clamsii |
29 days agoseblelionnais:
Pas persuadé que l'endurance joue sur la blessure
I can confirm that no, 54 minutes of endurance in the field for 1 minute is enough
image](https://i.imgur.com/wV9asAY.png)
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