Kynlux |
21/08/2024I think it would be cool to display the value of players on their profile... A kind of estimate, a bit like the estimate is made for the price of TV Rights (but based on age, potential and NG). I saw a message on the forum from someone who complained about potential fraud on player transfers; having an estimate of the value of players displayed on their profiles will greatly reduce fraud in my humble opinion. It will also prevent new players from getting scammed... I have new players in my agreement and when I look at their transfer log I see aberrations: 34 years old 40 NG at 4 Million (It ruins the experience of the game for new players sometimes honestly) --> then to get revenge they will put 30 years old / 25 NG at more than 1 Million (hoping that someone buys). This is the idea of improvement that I had in mind for a long time and in view of the growing number of fraud and breach of trust, we must act. Thank you for those who will pay attention to this message. Peace ✌️
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Rull43 |
21/08/2024Opinions will be very divergent on this subject, I am sure. I myself am leaning towards not having this information. It can restrict exchanges, auctions. Long live free enterprise. Buying and selling is an integral part of the game. I am against it. But I can understand your interest. As I said, a subject where you could vote too. But it is clearly a step backwards. Why was it removed?
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kiki-sainté |
21/08/2024Back to the past it was like that before and personally I really liked having an idea of price on the sheet
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Rull43 |
21/08/2024It is the market that defines the price, supply and demand. Putting such information distorts free will, the basics of supply and demand.
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Morten34 |
21/08/2024There are tables in the "rules" section that help determine a player's value: #community?rules
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Mide |
21/08/2024There’s a butto that shows something similar. It shows the previous transfers of the specified player and also recent transfers of similar players. That it what I use to determine the value of a player
Mide |
21/08/2024We don’t have to be spoon fed for everything. Figure some stuff out yourself. I would have loved it if we weren’t regulating values but has a varying economy. Anyways it is what it is. Can’t love the game less like this
aymeric45 |
21/08/2024I added a rough estimate made by the game of the player's value, on the page "At the club since...". This is the median value of the table of transfers of similar players displayed on this same page. 
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Exoda |
22/08/2024Thank you very much! We will be able to get an idea of the player's value.
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Morten34 |
22/08/2024Yes, but be careful, the price tables in the transfer section of the regulations will be valid: #community?rules
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King |
22/08/2024Yeah, I'm against the idea. From one point of view, the prices are already low, so I can't even imagine the most outlandish transfer proposals to come. At the auction for example, a 23 year old 99NG player is currently at 70M and could go up even more. The player is estimated at... 43M!
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King |
22/08/2024Player in question M. Omar Value at 48M and not 43. Which does not change my words.
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Morten34 |
22/08/2024And I repeat, this does not change the current regulations.
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King |
22/08/2024Morten, Few people will voluntarily go to the rules each time to check, especially the less experienced, who will give priority to the value indicated on the players ;)
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22/08/2024roof already at +310m€
Real time, Neymar 222€
Morten34 |
22/08/2024And so now some will hide behind this new indicator to contest the regulation and the cancellation of a transfer. Here is an example: T. Pepito He is NG 99. On the table, his average price is 130 M. He can therefore be sold/bought between 65 M and 260 M. The new reference value indicates for this player: 45 M #transferts?log&jid=539454 or a price below the minimum price authorized by the regulation. What do we do? For sure, there will be a dispute if he is sold for 45 M. In good (bad) faith, the guys will say that they sold/bought at the price of the value given as a reference.
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22/08/2024I think you dont need to chase players.
Put some formula to transfer limits.
Or gave it with transfer value calculator in the game.
No body wants to zoomxzoom that much...
Lock the limits with calculated values so roof not gonna blow.
And you take more rest 😉 or inspect 🧐 time...

King |
22/08/2024Yes, that's it Morten! That's what I'm trying to explain, or at least to highlight in order to prevent. Strength to you
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Vrael Zendo |
22/08/2024The simplest thing would be for Aymeric to implement the tables directly instead of the estimation, that would definitely solve the problem. After that it can quickly become time-consuming for him, but it will surely be the only viable solution in the long term
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Blagoje Vidinic |
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Coach Bobby |
22/08/2024Exoda |
22/08/2024I don't see this new feature as a "threat" to the classification Morten mentioned. Since we can negotiate any transfer up to -50%/+50%, and the player's value is in line with this classification, we can negotiate with the seller within the rules and limit the risk of being too greedy.
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Luango |
22/08/2024Thanks for the feedback, is it possible to compare players based on position? Seeing a striker compared to a goalkeeper greatly distorts his price
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lens59 |
22/08/2024It should be stated as an estimate and not a value And a range for your players 45/65 minimum. In addition I noticed that the figure decreases from day to day in 2 seasons gift value 😁
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S0upe |
23/08/2024Wouldn't it be possible to code the tables so that the game values correspond to them? I don't know anything about coding, maybe a stupid question on my part
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23/08/2024Coding reach new Era with AI.
So you put the idea and asking to code for you.
Then autocorrections also known by ai.
so yes its possible to make corresponding things with tables.
But devs must be fit them to the game and be sure they are clean.
if
else
lookup
lookdown
respond value
forbidden value
etc
the issue is AI prices and the code language...
yet this one if Aymeric likes can be done by setting limits with codes.
maybe he had rules already hidding somewhere... 😉
Kirikou |
23/08/2024I may be wrong based on my opinion but I think that this average value (median in mathematical terms), better reflects the average value of a player compared to the table. Let me explain. Example: I take the player from Morten's example. #transferts?log&jid=539454 Estimate at 54m so minimum 27m and 108m If we look closely there is a player of 201 points recently bought 26.6m, probably at auction and also another 99ng player recently bought at 95m. So we can deduce that for this player, the price range 27m-108m reflects the current state of the market very well. In my opinion, the difference between this new indicator of the average value of a player, and that of the table is that the update is continuous with the new indicator.
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Azby |
23/08/2024The sample is very small, subject to seasonal variations and includes players sold in the context of auctions. While the indicator is useful, it cannot replace the tables, which can be improved, set up in the context of a dispute. What we see coming is as big as a truck.
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Morten34 |
23/08/2024Anyway, let's be clear. It is the tables in the regulations that will be authentic, nothing else. This is just an indicative price, that's all.
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