Hi, I was wondering if there were any plans to add Palestine to the list of nations on VF!
Knowing that there's also North Korea... And Israel (so that everyone is represented)
Maybe what I'm proposing is heresy and my post will be taken down after that... but hey... I've been wondering about this for a while

On the one hand, you could say that it is not yet an officially recognised country

Marcus Aurelius: D'un côté on pourrait dire que ce n'est pas encore un pays officiellement reconnu ; d'un autre côté dans la liste des nations il y a des "nations" du genre Gibraltar. Donc bon, why not !

Palestine has been recognised as a state by at least 94 countries, including many Europeans.

On the other hand, this has already been requested like many other things on this game, so you can always wait.

Unfortunately (and this is not my wish), there will soon be no Palestinian state in either Gaza or the West Bank, given what is happening there.

There are 147 recognised countries (more because of the genocide), knowing that PALESTINE existed before the occupation of the strip in 1948.

Let's hope to see this nation on VF

#FreeGaza

And it has a Non-Member Observer Status given by UN

The country was present in the old way. But as there were no more VF players with this nationality, it disappeared ...

Marcus Aurelius: D'un côté on pourrait dire que ce n'est pas encore un pays officiellement reconnu ; d'un autre côté dans la liste des nations il y a des "nations" du genre Gibraltar. Donc bon, why not !

The example of Gibraltar is very apt 🫠

Forget it, you're wasting your time,
I'd already made the request, but quite a few .... disappointed me, I was almost called anti ...... because I'd made comparisons.
So I'd be surprised if it was represented on this game.
And Palestine has always been recognised, never forget that it has always been their country and NOT the OTHER WAY round.

Have you noticed that there haven't been any changes to the game in the last 9 to 12 months? Because Aymeric is probably busy elsewhere. So no, Palestine isn't going to be on the game, perhaps for other reasons too.

First of all, there would have to be the possibility of finding Palestinian players via the detection module, which is not currently the case. And as long as there are no Palestinian players, there will be no Palestinian Federation. I'll pass the info on to Aymeric, but I can't guarantee anything. 👍

Morten34: Il faudrait qu’il y ait d’abord la possibilité de trouver des joueurs palestiniens via le module détection, ce qui n’est pas le cas actuellement. Et tant qu’il n’y aura pas de joueurs palestiniens, il n’y aura pas de Fédération palestinienne. Je fais remonter l’info à Aymeric, mais je ne vous garantis rien. 👍

While we're at it, there's New Caledonia to add too ^^

I'm going to send it up for New Caledonia too 👍

Aside from geopolitical discussions of states recognised or not recognised by others, the most legitimate list of nations on which to base Virtuafoot would, in my opinion, be FIFA's official list of nations.
And according to Wikipedia (I'll cover myself if there's a mistake 😁 ), Palestine is on that list

Always more

Marcus Aurelius: Toujours plus ; demande pour la Gascogne aussi. Quitte à demander pour n'importe quoi, autant aller au bout de l'idée.

Greenlandic players perhaps?

Ah yes, Greenland. You have to ask too.

Marcus Aurelius: Toujours plus ; demande pour la Gascogne aussi. Quitte à demander pour n'importe quoi, autant aller au bout de l'idée.

Asking for anything? 🤔
We're just asking to restore equality and the ability to play with,nothing else.
So you're small pick you keep them to yourself.

best23: Demandé n'importe quoi ?🤔
On demande juste à rétablir l'égalité et la possibilité de jouer avec,rien d'autre.
Donc t'es petit pick tu les gardes pour toi.

I invite you to reread all the messages.

New Caledonia is one of the countries recognised by FIFA. Gascony, not yet. And as we often say, we don't give a damn about Gascony.

Balek from FIFA, here it's Vfifa.
And New Caledonia is no more recognised than Gascony or RAM, the Autonomous Kingdom of Melun. But that's all going to change when Aymeric logs on in 2035.

Marcus Aurelius: Balek de la FIFA, ici c’est la Vfifa.
Et la nouvelle Calédonie n’est pas plus reconnue que la Gascogne ou le RAM, le Royaume Autonome de Melun. Mais ça va changer, quand Aymeric se connectera en 2035.

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Cyril Hanouna , live on C8

OMstar83: La Nouvelle Calédonie fait partie des pays reconnus par la FIFA. La Gascogne, pas encore. Et comme on le dit souvent, la Gascogne, on s'en cogne. Et les gascons, ben on dit rien, c'est mieux.

Isn't new Caledonia a semi-autonomous overseas collectivity of France.

Marcus Aurelius: Ah oui, le Groland. Faut demander aussi.

Gromar, the cult striker from Greenland, has huge potential!

Free Palestine 🇵🇸 don't bother brothers god is in control everything is already written !!!!

DyDyTrix: Free Palestine 🇵🇸 ne vous fatiguer pas les frères dieu est au contrôle tout est écrit déjà !!!!

Ah shit...

In any case, geopolitical concerns are not those of the mdj, even if certain errors are a nuisance..... Several years ago I asked Aymeric about Swaziland, which no longer exists except on VF..... Swaziland has been called Eswatini since 2018 !!!!!

OncleOink: Dans tous les cas, les préoccupations géopolitiques ne sont pas celles du mdj même si certaines erreurs font tâches..... J'avais interpellé Aymeric, il y a de cela plusieurs années, sur le Swaziland qui n'existe plus sauf sur VF..... Le Swaziland s'appelle Eswatini depuis 2018 !!!!!

I'm surprised you're not calling for the integration of the USSR. Naughty Commie that you are!

Marcus Aurelius: Je suis étonné que tu ne demandes pas l'intégration de l'URSS. Vilain coco que tu es !

... I'm thinking about it, kamarad.... I'm thinking about it!

France officially recognises Palestine as a State🤗
Any news on a possible addition to VF?

Kynlux: La France reconnaît officiellement la Palestine comme un État🤗
Des news sur un éventuel ajout sur VF?

It has to be official everywhere. Not when one country recognises it.

Please it's a game
Let's avoid talking about politics
Thanks in advance

michbou: S il vous plaît c'est un jeu
Évitons de parler de politique
Merci d avance

It's not political but geographical, michbou;)
Having one and not the other doesn't make sense...
What's the point of adding a country, so that everyone feels represented, that's the goal. Fuck politics.

Magikcats: Faut que ce soit officiel de partout. Pas lorsqu'un pays reconnaît.

Your comment is wrong.
If all countries had to be recognised by everyone, nations like Taiwan, Israel and others wouldn't be there.
I think that VF should be modelled on FIFA's existing Federations. Monaco and Tuvalu shouldn't be included, but Palestine, Tahiti and New Caledonia should (and I think there are still some missing).

add a country only the mdj can do it
if such is the request post in part (amioration )
and the mdj will surely do it (your request)
thank you

Magikcats: Faut que ce soit officiel de partout. Pas lorsqu'un pays reconnaît.

How many countries do you need to recognise? just to find out?
Until further notice, no one recognises Macau as a country, but it's on VF and that's fine.
Why apologise for Palestine?

michbou: rajouté un pays seul le mdj peux le faire
si tel est la demande poste en partie (amelioration )
et le mdj la verras surement (ta demande )
merci

Thanks Michbou;)
I'll get on with it

Kynlux: Il faut que combien de pays reconnaissent? juste pour savoir?
Jusqu'à prévu de contraire, personne ne reconnaît Macao comme un pays mais il sur VF et c'est très bien.
Pk sortir des excuses pour la Palestine?

How many countries recognise Palestine today? Not many.
So there you have it.
In short, in a basic football game, it has to be recognised by FIFA or it has to be recognised internationally. Full stop.
After that, let's avoid talking politics.

Magikcats: Combien reconnaît la Palestine au jour d'aujourd'hui ? Peu.
Donc voilà.
Bref, sur un jeu de foot de base il faut que ce soit reconnu a la FIFA ou bien que ce soit reconnu a l'international. Point.
Après évitons de parler politique.

158 countries out of 193...

Magpie: 158 pays sur 193...

How did you vote? On Monday I watched the classico, which for me was more important.

Magikcats: Combien reconnaît la Palestine au jour d'aujourd'hui ? Peu.
Donc voilà.
Bref, sur un jeu de foot de base il faut que ce soit reconnu a la FIFA ou bien que ce soit reconnu a l'international. Point.
Après évitons de parler politique.

Today, the biggest obstacle is the fact that a terrorist organisation is in power, not the number of countries that recognise the state of Palestine.

But on vf, there's no Hamas, so in itself it's no more crazy than Macau.

Magikcats: Combien reconnaît la Palestine au jour d'aujourd'hui ? Peu.
Donc voilà.
Bref, sur un jeu de foot de base il faut que ce soit reconnu a la FIFA ou bien que ce soit reconnu a l'international. Point.
Après évitons de parler politique.

Since when is Macau in the FIFA rankings? I've missed an episode and this is just another excuse?
France recognises Palestine. That's not good enough.
The United Nations recognises Palestine. That's not good enough.
Your gymnastics are cardio, mate:/

Kynlux: Depuis quand Macao est au classement FIFA? J'ai raté un épisode et c'est juste une nouvelle excuse de plus?
La France reconnaît la Palestine. C'est pas suffisant.
Les Nations reconnaissent la Palestine. C'est pas suffisant.
C'est cardio ta gymnastique poto:/

Personally, I wouldn't have put the Macao in, it's my point of view, and I didn't even know it was there.
After that, it's Aymeric's game and he decides, not us.

Marcus Aurelius: Aujourd’hui, ce qui bloquerait le plus, c’est le fait que ce soit une organisation terroriste au pouvoir et non le nombre de pays qui reconnaissent l’état de Palestine.

Mais sur vf, pas de Hamas ; alors en soit ce n’est pas plus délirant que Macao.

Yes;) it's true that ALL Germans were Na*i it's well known. You have to keep things in perspective

No politics here. No "he recognised Greenland, let's add him". The only countries that should be included are those with a football federation recognised by FIFA. That's what seems most logical and what's based on reality. I'm still waiting for New Caledonia, though. We don't need to be recognised by the King of Spain, we're already recognised by FIFA ^^.

OMstar83: Aucune politique là-dedans. Aucune histoire de "lui il a reconnu le Groland, venez on l'ajoute". Les seuls pays qui devraient figurer sont ceux ayant une fédération de football reconnue par la FIFA. C'est ce qui parait le plus logique et ce qui repose sur du réel. J'attends toujours la Nouvelle Calédonie, du coup. On a pas besoin d'être reconnu par le Roi d'Espagne, on l'est déjà par la FIFA et il en est de même pour beaucoup de pays qui le sont et qui auraient donc leur place.

Enfin, et com...

Except that if we base ourselves solely on the countries recognised by FIFA, 1/4 of the countries on VF are missing hahah I'm abusing the figures a little but you get the idea. But yes, I completely agree with the addition of New Caledonia.

Kynlux: Sauf que si l'on se base que sur les pays reconnus par la FIFA, le 1/4 des pays sur VF sautes hahah j'abuse un peu sur les chiffres mais tu capte l'idée. Mais oui tout a fait d'accord pour l'ajout de la Nouvelle-Calédonie.

Yes, I mean that we shouldn't even have to question the legitimacy of a nation's existence if it is recognised by FIFA. And so we separate the political side from the sporting side. (even if... in reality, sport often encroaches on politics and vice versa, but that's a wider subject).

As for the other countries, that's up to Aymeric. If he wants to add more fanciful nations, why not. But it's a shame to create an unrecognised nation and not do the same for others that are. Especially as it doesn't cost anything to add it, I suppose, and it's probably pretty easy to do.

Good luck to those who want to get geopolitics moving on VF... I alerted Aymeric several years ago (I'm not talking in seasons, but in years), to no avail, that Swaziland no longer exists since 2018 !!!!!!!! (It has become Eswatini).