Following the message I received, I registered but, as with the previous edition, I noticed that the cup was planned for a much larger number of clubs than were potentially involved.
The list of "Cercle members" is 358
#ranking?type=legends
a number of which have been inactive for some time.
So why plan a 'river' cup with 512 places? Look for the mistake!
The list of participants will be completed on the basis of obscure criteria.
This cup should be limited to the first 256 registrants.
Or if it's for 512, why call it the Circle of Legends Cup?
Entries are accepted until 29 November and the season ends on 2 January, so I'd be very, very surprised if this cup ended before the end of the season by starting at the 1/256th final.
At the moment, 150 people have signed up, which isn't bad, but I'm not even sure we'll get to 256.

Rich problems 😂

On a more serious note, and as you pointed out, there are more than 256 clubs in the circle. And even though some have been inactive for a long time, I imagine the cup was set up to be able to accommodate all members if everyone decided to join. And the next value is 512.

Now you raise an interesting question. Why not send an invitation via notification to all the members of the circle at the start of the season to confirm their participation or not? That way, if it's possible, the cup could be configured according to everyone's actual attendance record.

myforsans: Suite au message reçu je me suis inscrit mais comme pour la précédente édition je constate que la coupe est prévue pour un nombre bien supérieur aux clubs potentiellement concernés.
La liste des "membres du Cercle" est de 358
#ranking?type=legends
dont un certain nombre sont inactifs depuis un moment.
Alors, pourquoi prévoir une coupe "fleuve" avec 512 places ? Cherchez l'erreur !
La liste des participants va encore être complétée sur la base de critères obscurs.
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The last Legends Cup ended the following season.
Start of season 140, end of season 141 :

We have to leave it like that last time it was shaved and many clubs could not participate although they had their place, in the end the inactive clubs will be out in the first round is not a scandal either.

Please leave the inactive ones I could spend more than one round like that 😁😁😁🍾🍾🍾

So that's what I'm saying, if there are 358 potential registrants, we only expect 256 to sign up and we'll start when 256 have done so, and if there aren't enough by the deadline, we'll top up.
Otherwise, what's the point of pre-registration for 3 weeks? ?????
And if it's set at 512 for reasons I don't know, we might as well immediately add the 358 (active or inactive) and complete with 154 clubs, for example the top 154 in the VF rankings (excluding those already in the 358),
Then there would be a 3-week registration phase that would be completely unnecessary.

It doesn't matter if the cup is thrown, it's all for the best.

myforsans: Donc c'est bien ce que je dis si il y a 358 inscrits potentiels, on prévoit seulement 256 inscrits et ça démarre quand il y en aura 256 qui se seront manifestés et si pas assez à la deadline, on complète.
Sinon quel est l'intérêt de la pré-inscription pendant 3 semaines ?????
Et si c'est fixé a 512 pour des raisonsque j'ignore, autant immédiatement mettre d'office les 358 (actifs ou inactifs) et compléter par 154 clubs, par exemple les 154 premiers du classement VF (hors ceux figurant déjà da...

Every time it's the same, it's a waste of time, every Legends Cup has a topic for that reason, now I sign up, do 1 or 2 rounds and goodbye.
For me there should be only legends point, the one who stopped the game sorry but it's his choice if he came back in level 1 so no legend.
Anyone who doesn't have the required points is not a legend.
Create the vf popular cup at worst
Here is my feeling you can disagree with me it's not serious

Yes, I agree 100%. This predictability of 512 entries is inconsistent with the fact that the potential entries are 358 minus the inactive or those who have good reasons for not wanting to take part.
There's nothing 'legendary' about the Legends Cup, which could potentially be won by a club that isn't in the 358.
It reminds me of the Euroleague in basketball, which could (potentially, because surely not this season, given their level) be won by a team from Dubai.

The first 256 would have been perfect; in any case, all the "legends" don't necessarily connect any more, so it'll be pretty good if we get to that figure.

Already launched 😲

estac: Déjà lancée 😲

That's right!
Rarely has a request been handled so quickly.

It's going to be complicated 🤭🤭🤭 #match?mid=6535596

kiki-sainté: Ça va être compliqué 🤭🤭🤭 #match?mid=6535596

I hope that was ironic xD

He's finally going for a ride. Lol

leakcim58: Il va enfin passer un tour. Lol

Or not 🤣🤣🤣

leakcim58: Il va enfin passer un tour. Lol

I passed 2 last time

bluethunders26: Ou pas 🤣🤣🤣

I'm going to put my youngsters on, but I'm not sure I'll get through.

kiki-sainté: Je vais mettre mes jeunes en effet pas sur que je passe

Don't worry, I'm not sure I'll get through too ^^

the cup has already been thrown it's a miracle

After that, it's crazy to add 13 days of inactivity to this cup !!!!

Brutus: Après, c'est quand même dingue d'y rajouter des inactifs de 13 jours (avec 13jours d'ancienneté !?) pour jouer cette coupe !!!!

You have to replace guys like me who aren't interested in playing in this cup.

Yep, but you'll always be a legend even if you don't play in this cup! ^^ ;)

On a more serious note, it's pretty utopian to create a cup like this without 512 legends" wanting to sign up, and to launch it at 256... with inactive noobys!

You've got several clubs in the top VF "non-legends" ranking who potentially (on paper) deserved to play it by being "invited"!

Anyway... I've nearly finished the aperitif... soon the digeo ! ^^

Putting a vffa/ldc/vfmaster/is cup winner in the caption would seem logical to me.

The 10k points are very anecdotal

sora02: Mettre un vainqueur de vffa/ldc/vfmaster/is cup en légende me semblerait être logique

Les 10k points sont archi anecdotiques

I don't agree with you sora, the legends cup shouldn't be called that anymore so
Il y a la coupe de l'été, de noel déjà pour tout le monde, je ne comprends pas pourquoi on intégrerait des autres déjà les niveaux 1 bof bof, que des 10000 pts et plus on compte les actifs les premiers arrivés premier servit point
That's my point of view

kiki-sainté: Je ne suis pas d accord avec toi sora ,la coupe des légendes ne doit plus s appeler comme ça alors
Il y a la coupe de l été , de noel déjà pour tout le monde, je ne comprends pas pourquoi on intégrerait des autres déjà les niveaux 1 bof bof ,que des 10000 pts et plus on compte les actifs les premiers arrivés premier servit point
C est mon point de vue

Yes, except that you took advantage of VF's old-style points. Now, even a big season with 250 pts, you can repeat that for full seasons to reach 10K points one day. It's becoming impossible to reach 10K.

Kevin-7130: Oui sauf que tu as profite des points a l'ancienne de VF. La maintenant même une grosse saison a 250 pts, tu peux reiterer ça pendant full saisons pour atteindre un jour les 10K points. Ça devient impossible d'atteindre les 10K.

Have you seen my team so you can say I took advantage of the points? I got points once and I finished 8th, I think, in the game since 2008.
It's going to be our fault that the points were easy before.
As I said at the start, we had to put all the level 10s in this cup. Aymeric decided 10000 pts was the rule for the legends cup.
We'll put all the level 10s in but not the champions league winners or anything other than level 10s and we'll wait until the cup is full, not adding level 1s or anything else.

kiki-sainté: Je ne suis pas d accord avec toi sora ,la coupe des légendes ne doit plus s appeler comme ça alors
Il y a la coupe de l été , de noel déjà pour tout le monde, je ne comprends pas pourquoi on intégrerait des autres déjà les niveaux 1 bof bof ,que des 10000 pts et plus on compte les actifs les premiers arrivés premier servit point
C est mon point de vue

Let's call it the cup of the ancients then, given your point of view

With all due respect, I don't see what "legends" there are in the majority of those who are part of it and who have won absolutely nothing in the game, not even a poor d1 championship.

Kevin is right, the cup will remain closed ad vita eternam from now on.

What's more, apart from the first edition, even former players now see no point in playing it.

sora02: Appelons la la coupe des anciens alors, vu ton point de vue

Avec tout mon respect, je vois pas ce qu’on de « légendes » la plupart de ceux qui en font parti et qui n’ont absolument rien gagner sur le jeu, même pas une pauvre d1 de championnat.

Kevin a raison, la coupe restera fermée ad vita eternam maintenant

D’ailleurs on remarquera qu’à part la première édition dorénavant même les anciens actifs ne voient pas l’intérêt de la jouer

Donc on supprime cette coupe mais aussi celle de l'été auquel je ne participe pas car me faire éliminer au 1 er tour apres 2 mois d'attente des calendriers de certains ça m'intéresse pas idem pour celle de noel on supprimé les 3 coupes
Aymeric has added cups, well no, nobody likes that at some point you have to stop complaining about a cup.
I only took part once in the Champions League, I finished in the semi-finals, all on penalties, and the same goes for the Vffa, I only took part once in the group stages, but that doesn't mean I'm asking for these cups to be cancelled or integrated because I don't take part in them because I'm bad at them.
The summer and Christmas cups I'm not taking part in because I know I've got this Legends Cup, and as for the name, I'm OK with the Pensioners Cup or the Retirement Home Cup, which would have been better.
But I'm seriously bored every season you come whining to take part in this cup, what's bothering you? That we give a cup to people who have been here for ages? En février je vais entamé ma 18 eme années sur le jeu pas avec ce compte c'est vrai, c'est pas rien quand même
That's the end of the story, put all levels 10 next time on those good day to all

When you see that almost every match has an inactive "legendary" noob... well, why????

You might as well only do it with the first 128 registered players...

Have a good day ;)

Can be expanded to level 9, and if not enough 8.

The principle is nice, but as Jevin says, with the new points today, it's very complicated to go to 10.

Plarchios: Peut être élargir au niveau 9, et si pas assez 8.

Le principe est sympa, mais comme dit Jevin, avec les nouveaux points aujourd’hui, très compliqué de passer à 10.

We should already be expanding to level 10.
You need 10,000 points to be in the circle of legends.
There are a lot of clubs between 5,000 and 10,000 points.

Yes, so that's that ;)

Personally, I've always said that as soon as you reach level ten you're a legend, so the 10,000 pts thing is obsolete.

I'm waiting for 2

You dog!

Personally, I'm in favour of the 10,000pts to get there (although it's hot to get there now)!

But when you see that there are 358 "Legends" and that the cup has been launched with 256 clubs with a not insignificant number of newly registered and inactive "noobs"... it just doesn't seem right!

Personally, I can just imagine the 2 'Legends' clubs having to play each other in the first round, while all around them there are 6 clubs 'banging' 'noobs'!

Anyway, it seems to me that I said the same thing in season 140... and I'll probably say the same thing in season 148... I'm not saying that it's bad, but I think there are ways of 'improving' or 'restricting' access to this cup.

ps: It also seems to me that there was some grumbling when Adrimax won it (I say it seems to me because season 136 is far, far away for me)... but if that's the reason why non-Legends clubs in the VF ranking can no longer take part, well, that's very... well, how shall I put it... in short, I'll leave you to find the words... you might as well play against the aforementioned 'noobs', I grant you!

ps2 : My thoughts go out to all those who were affected, directly or indirectly, by today's fateful anniversary.

When you see that some legends quit the game years ago... it makes me smile personally.
There are the living legends and the dead ones...?

Personally, when I see that in almost 3 years I've collected 2200 points (by being very active)

Even at 250 points per season (which is about what a top 10 does) you'd need 40 now, which is about 6-7 years, it doesn't make sense 🤣

I hope you're patient Ced ^^

In terms of content, it's a very good cut, well thought out... but in terms of form, I think there's room for improvement!

Personally, I've never played the points but since 2011... I've only got 6622pts... and I don't want to play it... but courage to all those who want to play it ^^.

Ced90: Perso quand je vois qu’en quasiment 3 ans j’ai récolté 2200 points (en étant très actif)

Même à 250 points par saison (qui est environ ce que fait un top 10) il en faudrait 40 maintenant soit environ 6-7 ans, ça n’a pas de sens 🤣

When you look at the legends ranking, the most active club has played for 10 years, which corresponds to your calculation.

It used to be a lot easier to win 10pts a game for many years.
After all, playing a game for 5, 10 or 17 years doesn't necessarily make you a legend (or a vegetable).

Each edition; the same squeaks.
Aymeric wanted to honour and/or thank the oldest players of HIS game. Full stop.

The name is just a name, it could have been called "the old-timers", "the old-timers", "the boomers", etc.......... it was all the same.

The criterion is just another criterion; but like all criteria, it is necessarily arbitrary.

Now, if we start making exceptions (whatever the cut in fact, legend, vfifa, etc........) to satisfy ouin ouin 1 and 2 because they're not invited, it inevitably loses its substance.

The only downside is that we should have stopped at the first 128, which would have avoided the bogus afk. But it's already better than the previous cup. Maybe until the next one.

Yep Marcus... if a 'manual' addition has to be made to the cup because the 256 clubs haven't entered... well, we might as well 'reserve' it for the first 128 to enter!

But afterwards, for those who are "Legends" and are not Lucky Luck's first cousins...

Anyway, it's hard to please everyone while trying to do the right thing (yes, I know, I'm contradicting myself a bit by saying that, but it's the truth)... you have to be open-minded to assimilate all the ways of thinking of your opponents (which I am ^^).

The problem is that those who aren't legends are still going to complain and those who aren't in the cup will complain too.
C'est compliqué privilégier les afk niveau 10 si il y en a au pire

No, Kiki, those who aren't Legends aren't complaining!
I'm the one who thinks the system is utopian!
In the 1st season, "non-Legendary" clubs were added and all it took was for one of them to win, and then (I think) it was total chaos for this cup ^^.

In short, instead of adding "noobs" to add to the 256 clubs... we might as well just take the 128 "Legends" who first entered, don't you think?

Brutus: Non, Kiki ceux qui ne sont pas Légendes ne se plaignent pas !
Là, c'est moi qui trouve utopique le système !
La 1ère saison a été rajouté des clubs "non Légende" puis suffit qu'un d'eux ait gagné et là (je pense) que ce fut le tollé total pour cette coupe ^^

Bref, là, au lieu de rajouter des "noobs" pour compléter à 256 clubs... autant ne prendre que les 128 "Légendes" premièrement inscrites, non ?

The first winner is a "non-legendary" club: Adrimax -NXS-

Yes, Blagoje, I think of him when I say that ;)

It's unbelievable that some "Legends" have been knocked off their feet by a non-"Legend"... hence the idea of putting "noobs" in the first place to spare the so-called "Legends"!

He only beat me 1-0, that's not infamous, either. 😁