COMPLAINT I have the evidence

Block the creation of new accounts, I'll come and post the message regularly if I see that you still have a deletion bug.

A quick question: as a member of the second cartel, can we also help to pay off this debt?

finally the lr are finally punished for cheating bravo aymeric meme si je trouve ca trsite de toujouyr tricher pour savoir être dans le top de vf

bluethunders26: On se calme jusque là la LR n as jamais eu de problème et la c est lier à une personne

No, it's linked to the Entente and the acceptance of a member... which wouldn't have happened a few years ago... and even though long before Teddy the IR got carried away by the titles.
The LR, which stood out for its values rather than its titles, is paying for its erring ways and I'm certainly not going to feel sorry for what's happened to it.
I loved this agreement before I was part of it, I loved it when I was part of it, I continued to love this agreement after I left it... but what it was and what it has become, you sow what you reap, apparently the modern Romans have forgotten to be farmers.

calme je veux juste dire que je trouve correct cette sanction voila c'est mon avis tout entente fautif doire sanction et cher les afu on a bien recu une amande de 700m sans venir rouspecter et c'est juste un ancienan de vf qui le dit

I'm not saying otherwise, just that I'd prefer us to be careful about what we say so as not to start a new war that has no place here.

Oh, we've really got to the point where we're contesting PayPal to get our star purchases refunded, which is just one more string to your bow, you've really got the whole package 🤣

Frankly, it won't be long before we have a campaign for the A45 presidency in 2027!

A strong, courageous, well-argued and dissuasive decision.

Everything our politicians don't do ^^'.

VALENCIANO: calme je veux juste dire que je trouve correct cette sanction voila c'est mon avis tout entente fautif doit être sanction et cher les afu on a bien reçu une amande de 700m sans venir rouspecter et c'est juste un ancien de vf qui le dit

In French law, that's called extortion.

Definition of "extortion" :

Extortion** is a criminal offence which consists of obtaining money, property or an advantage from a person by threat, violence, coercion or pressure (even psychological), and against that person's will.

It can occur by various means:

• physical or moral threats
• blackmail
• intimidation
• abuse of authority or weakness.

Example:

Asking someone for money under threat of damaging their reputation or safety constitutes extortion.

Penalties under French law :

According to Article 312-1 of the Criminal Code, extortion is punishable by 7 years' imprisonment and a 100,000 euro fine. Penalties may be increased if there are special circumstances (e.g. organised crime, crime against a vulnerable person, etc.).

I'm no legal expert, but if you want to applaud this... it's clearly related to your skills as a manager.

seblelionnais: Franchement, on va pas tarder a avoir une campagne pour A45 président 2027 !

Décision forte, courageuse, argumentée et dissuasive.

Tout ce que ne font pas nos politiques ^^'

Oh yes, with all the geniuses who vote like you, I have to admit that this whole affair smacks of the IMF.

Teddy3: Ah oui avec tous les genis qui vote comme toi, j avoue que ça sent bon le FMI cette affaire

Teddy3: T es vraiment à la masse toi, en droit français ça s appel de l extorsion de fond.

Définition de "l'extorsion de fonds" :

L’extorsion de fonds est un délit pénal qui consiste à obtenir de l’argent, un bien ou un avantage d’une personne par la menace, la violence, la contrainte ou la pression (même psychologique), et ce contre son gré.

Elle peut se produire par divers moyens :

• menaces physiques ou morales,
• chantage,
• intimidation,
• abus d’autorité ou de faible...

jeff explained it to me, so give back what you've received to the LR and that'll be the end of it.

Teddy3: Ah oui avec tous les genis qui vote comme toi, j avoue que ça sent bon le FMI cette affaire

Here's a nice list of future pseudonyms, thanks to AIs.

Anyway, once again, you're being self-centred and that's a shame. Because, unanimously, I think the community considers you to be an excellent player.

I also think that if you played a bit more collectively, you could :
become one of the best anti-cheating admins in the game (who would have a better profile than you?)
-But above all, personally and probably others, we'd agree that you should get a bonus in VF money (not stars) every time you detect an anomaly in the game, because deep down, you're probably the best at it too.

So yes, it's the community that loses the most in your war, and not you who goes into a tilt, like a pinball machine that's been shaken a bit too much.

seblelionnais: Tiens tu as droit a une belle liste de futurs pseudos, merci les IA

Bref, toujours est-il que encore une fois, tu es auto centré sur ta personne et c'est dommage. Car de manière unanime, je pense que la communauté te considère comme un excellent joueur.

Je pense aussi que si tu la jouais un peu plus collectif, tu pourrais :
-faire l'un des meilleurs admin anti triche du jeu (qui aurait mieux le profil que toi XD)
-mais surtout, personnellement et probablement d'autres, on serait d'accord po...

It's a good thing we're a bunch of old-timers on this game... because with the ref on the pinball machine, a youngster would be lost, I think :D

good evening
I have 1 simple question to ask here.
a45 has deleted the players bought by teddy

here you go for the players when teddy was in the lr and I went back even 1 little further I think
here is the financial diary of the lr

#entente?eid=454&paylog&page=11
in this financial diary we can see 1aide financiere de 20m de l'alr pour teddy et des rentrées de 250k pour les ie

Aymeric moi je n'aime pas les lr du moins certains et pourtant j'avoue pas comprendre pk vouloir sanctionner 1 entente pour ceci
at no point do we see that teddy gave the lr players from the store except for 1 where the lr paid him a lot of money.
I have to admit that I don't understand you on this one aymeric for sanctioning the cartel?

Funny, he's going to manage to rewrite the French constitution.
It's a good thing I got a speeding ticket. I didn't pay, it's increased and then I get a formal notice to pay.

What do I do? Do I sue the French state for extortion?

That's the end of the matter, so let's move on.
Enjoy the season!

Poor Teddy, this instability is frightening.
I hope you manage to pick up.
Good luck IRL

I hope this helps all the cartels in their future choices. Such a miscasting.

For me, the penalty is exemplary but the fraud is really sophisticated. I wouldn't have even imagined doing that.

It's Frank Abagnale Jr in fact.

Teddy2: PORTE PLAINTE Moi j'ai les preuves

Perhaps it's time to take a step back, for the good of the game and its community. Unfortunately, your presence has turned into a series of tensions and controversies.

Since your arrival, the conflicts have multiplied, and your involvement has been constant. The facts are there: proven cheating, dubious behaviour, and now threats that have nothing to do with the spirit of the game. And yet you persist without ever taking responsibility, with a self-assurance that borders on denial.

The most regrettable thing is not just your attitude, but the collateral damage: a historic agreement penalised, and an atmosphere that has become toxic.

Believe it or not, this is not about settling scores, but a call for lucidity. Your trophies will never have the value that you attribute to them, because the way in which they are obtained counts as much as the result. And your only legacy is the return of Aymeric.
You've also managed to mess things up with the admins. I haven't seen anything like that in over 10 years of gaming!
In short, maybe it's time to turn the page for everyone's sake!
Don't bother replying, I've got nothing else to say...

All for the sake of a game and misplaced egos... Phew...

Good luck to LR though. I didn't understand the recruitment and I still don't understand it now.

As far as Teddy is concerned, he richly deserves this penalty and I'm not going to go any further in explaining why, as Hydilik has said it all.
As far as LR are concerned, and I'm speaking on my own behalf here, I think the penalty for them is extremely harsh.
They made the mistake of recruiting this phenomenon.... but to pay for him I find quite shameful.
Good day to all

An agreement that for seasons has been cheating and everyone knew it or had doubts!
Afterwards, as they say, not seen, not taken!
Let justice be done

There's already a club that wants to come to episode 4, so I'm wondering what the end will be when we finish with the numbers and alphabets 😂😂😂😂.
The decision's been made, that's all. I think if you went and spoke to A45 and the admins by mp, we'd only be at episode 2.

Les LR, you disappointed and surprised a lot of former LR players when you recruited Teddy, as well as all the more or less historic agreements in the game.
You've demeaned yourselves by keeping him for your players when the evidence is there: he cheated!

Like any vf manager, if I put real money into a player and I see that another manager is taking advantage of a loophole to get the best players in the VFStore, of course I'd inform the admins straight away, so I don't at all understand the attack on those who noticed the fraud and they should instead be thanked for helping the admins to make the game cleaner, but there's hatred in this game, it's crazy.

Aymeric's comments show that it's no longer a case of exploiting a bug, but that a lot of real money is at stake.
So anyone who wants to sue any vf player had better disappear, because a lot of vf players could sue them for the money they illegally diverted.

Please LR, if you keep him, reason with Teddy because he's disgusting everyone about VF.

Have a good game and a good season...

Is VF no longer a game?

Effectivement prendre un joueur avec de grosses note et voir cas la fin il a tricher c'est plutôt bête surtout pour les LR qui valent mieux que un club c'est une institution du jeux après l'entente savais que ce joueurs posé peut être des problèmes mais imaginé une telle arnaque il a fait fort. After the real sums engaged nobody knows it has by Aymeric which must have the sums in its computer. Here we're talking about real money, the thing I'm wondering is that this case can go further especially if it talks about real money. I don't think Aymeric wants to go any further in this case, he cut it short to avoid any more problems. And the sanctions are fair.

Teddy3: T es vraiment à la masse toi, en droit français ça s appel de l extorsion de fond.

Définition de "l'extorsion de fonds" :

L’extorsion de fonds est un délit pénal qui consiste à obtenir de l’argent, un bien ou un avantage d’une personne par la menace, la violence, la contrainte ou la pression (même psychologique), et ce contre son gré.

Elle peut se produire par divers moyens :

• menaces physiques ou morales,
• chantage,
• intimidation,
• abus d’autorité ou de faible...

Making purchases on a website and then cancelling payment even though the goods have been delivered is classed as fraud or theft under the Criminal Code. It's all the more punishable if the theft takes place IRL and not on a virtual game. You say you're not an expert in law, but I say you're an expert in what suits you.
If you want to lift the sanction against LR, the best thing to do would be to pay Aymeric back all the real money you stole from him.
And if you want to do the whole community a favour, the best thing would be for you to haunt another game.
Word to the wise!

You've just slandered the LR... against your predecessor's message... deservedly so!

I said that I agreed with aymeric's punishment compared to the past and as a bonus this story has been settled with admin blue so why give a fine afterwards?

Mava14: Faire des achats sur un site pour ensuite annuler le paiement alors que la marchandise a été livrée est nommé par le code pénal comme être une fraude ou du vol. C'est d'autant plus punissable que ce vol a lieu en IRL en non pas sur un jeu virtuel. Tu dis ne pas être un expert en droit, moi je dis que tu es surtout un expert en ce qui t'arrange.
Si tu veux lever la sanction contre la LR, le mieux est que tu rembourses à Aymeric tout l'argent réel que tu lui as volé.
Et si tu veux rendre servic...

Well expressed, nothing to add.

VALENCIANO: j'ai dit que etait accord avec la sanction de aymeric comparer au passee et en prime c'est histoire a ete regle avec admin blue donc pourquoi donner un amande apres

He's just told you why. You write that LR is "finally" being punished for cheating. Which means that, according to you, it has been cheating for a long time in plain sight, without being punished. Which would allow her to be at the top of VF. That's what's being punished because it's not true and you can't just throw out what you want, especially when it's not true.

OMstar83: Il vient de t'expliquer le pourquoi de l’amEnde. Tu écris que la LR est "enfin" punie pour la triche. Ce qui signifie donc qu’elle triche depuis longtemps selon toi à la vue de tous, sans être punie. Ce qui lui permettrait d’ètre au top de VF. C’est ca qui est sanctionné parce que c'est faux et qu'on ne peut pas balancer ce qu'on veut comme on veut, surtout quand c'est faux.

histoire a été régllée hier avec blue en mp donc pourquoi donner une amende si c'est réglle depuis hier et je le rédit je suis juste accord avec la sanction de aymeric et non la dissolution de lr
il faut pas mêler tout svp

VALENCIANO: histoire a ete regler hier avec blue en mp donc pourquoi donner une amende si c'est regle depuis hier et je le redit je suis juste accord avec la sanction de aymeric et non la dissolution de lr
il faut pas tout melanger svp

OK, have a good evening!

Valenciano,
I don't know if you realise the scale of the situation, but we're way beyond a VFian "spat" or a simple fine (which you received, and I think your comments were reported, so = sanction, because they're real).

Sometimes you have to know not to say anything and not to take sides, even if you have prejudices, when the situation is beyond you!

Everyone will be hurt by this...

I would just like to know which admin gave this penalty please because I contacted all the admins and it's nobody lol between those who replied in mp vf

Teddy 1
Teddy 2
Teddy 3

It's like Rocky, are they all good?
Or does it lose quality?

steril: Teddy 1
Teddy 2
Teddy 3

C est comme Rocky, ils sont tous bons ?
Ou ça perd en qualité ?

Or the Ong Back film series 🤭 Ces of Humour.

It's me and what difference does it make to you to know that?
To come up with defences that, since you're talking about the LR cartel, I'm not entitled to punish you.
You've been fined 2.5 million and you're making a fuss about it.
Think before you write such nonsense.
This will be my one and only message on this subject.

Would it not be possible to close this topic?
The sanctions have been handed down and deserved, there's no point arguing about a decision that's already been made!
I'll never understand this constant need to interfere in everything.

VALENCIANO: je pourrais juste savoir quelle admin a donner cette sanction svp car j'ai contacter tout les admin et c'est personne lol entre ceux qui ont repondu en mp vf

And what difference does knowing that make? It makes no difference.
It's precisely by talking out of turn, accusing without proof and provoking constantly that you've found yourself sanctioned.
You'd do better to concentrate on managing your club, perhaps that will be more successful for you.

Maybe Valenciano was taking the humorous hashtags #LR cheats# seriously.

VALENCIANO doesn't speak French very well and the meaning of his message wasn't what he wanted it to be.
I've been talking to him for about an hour now and he's understood his mistake and accepted the penalty.

We can resume the conversation calmly, guys. 😊

Lebaygue: Peut être que Valenciano prenait les hashtags humoristiques #LR tricheurs# au sérieux.

I nearly spoke to him about it!