Kevin-7130 |

37 horas atrás

Hello everyone,
Are regressions accelerating for you too?
M. Anderson
5 points down in one week... 3NG less in just one week...!

What about you?


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Skyz |

37 horas atrás

Yes, it's a massacre, but the aim is to get the next 'meta' generation in as quickly as possible, I imagine.

But it's a bit embarrassing when most of the best players in that generation are players to be reallocated in the store.


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Rull43 |

36 horas atrás

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, a very, very old school film.


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Misha |

35 horas atrás

Well, it was slow (-3NG per season).
There was literally ONE guy who whined. And now it's -6...
There you go. ^^


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myforsans |

34 horas atrás

I'm surprised that some people are surprised!

The game has always worked this way, with over-reactions to poorly anticipated situations.

Some people complain that nothing's happening and then suddenly there's a reaction to the power of 4 to make up for the fact that nothing has happened.

Obviously this doesn't please those who thought that their 38 years in 4 seasons would still be the kings of the game until they retired.


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Damien2911 |

34 horas atrás

Which remains problematic.

Over a long period of time, players stop progressing. Once they reach a certain age, it's all downhill from there.

The vision of a player's level during his career is problematic.


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myforsans |

34 horas atrás

Damien2911: Ce qui reste problématique.

Pendant toute une longue période, les joueurs ne progressent plus. Arrivés à un certain âge, c'est la chute.

La vision du niveau d'un joueur durant sa carrière est problématique.

Particularly the fact that we know that from the age of 22, or 23 or sometimes 24, we know in advance that for 6 to 8 seasons it will remain almost identical with barely 1 pt more gained at a snail's pace, whereas it would be more realistic if this period of maturity were jagged.
But this is a virtual game and we should once and for all stop believing that the game reflects reality.


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Damien2911 |

32 horas atrás

I think there's something in the middle between not making progress and wanting to stick to reality.

Even in a virtual game, I think there are better things to do than to see a player not progress for 6-7 seasons and then fall drastically. At 24-25-26-27, or even more, a player continues to progress.


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Lebaygue |

32 horas atrás

Well, they continue to make progress between the end of their upward curve and the downward curve... they easily gain 4-5 NG points during this lap.


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Demi-cerveau |

32 horas atrás

Damien2911: Je pense qu'entre ne pas progresser et vouloir coller à la réalité il y a quelque chose au milieu.

Même dans un jeu virtuel, je trouve qu'il y a mieux à faire que de voir un joueur ne pas progresser pendant 6-7 saisons avec de drastiquement chuter. A 24-25-26-27, voire même plus, un joueur continue à progresser.

What you say is factually incorrect. Over 6-7 seasons, the player, if trained to improve the grade, will progress by 6-7 ng.

A 83gns player at 23, trained over the next 7 seasons to optimise his score, will have a score of 90 at 30, and 7 more endurance points if you add in the pre-season training sessions. That's not insignificant. On the contrary, the game is very well done in this respect. Players reach their highest level, then progress slowly over the following seasons.


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Socrate |

30 horas atrás

I also think that the phenomenon of an acceleration of the regression at the start of the season and a slowdown (speed more normal to what we usually experience) throughout the rest of the season seems to be the norm every season.
This was the case last season
Deck posted part of the bug at the time


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Misha |

25 horas atrás

myforsans: Je suis surpris que certains soient surpris !

Le jeu a toujours fonctionné de cette façon avec des sur-réactions consécutives à des situations mal anticipées.

Je viens de regarder sur les 50 meilleurs joueurs du jeu en points sans endurance 45 ont plus de 30 ans et avec endurance 47 ont p’us de 30 ans.

Certains dénoncent, il ne se passe rien et tout d'un coup hop, une réaction puissance 4 pour compenser qu'il ne se soit rien passé.

Évidemment ça ne fait pas plaisir à ceux qui croyaient qu...

You are literally THE guy who shushed that I was talking about. 😅


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myforsans |

13 horas atrás

I don't think I'm a whiner, so it must be someone else, but in any case if someone has been whining as you say on this subject they've been 100 times right.

After that, the subject remains the same. Even if it's a good direction, why is it being done overnight without any warning and without us knowing whether it's an isolated cut or a long-term trend, which inevitably prompts the whiners to whine (and rightly so)?


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estac |

11 horas atrás

myforsans: Je ne pense pas être un chouineur donc ca doit etre un autre mais en tout cas si quelqu'un a chouiné comme tu dis sur ce sujet il a eu 100 fois raison.

Après le sujet reste toujoursle même. Même si c'est une bonne orientation pourquoi est ce fait du jour au lendemain sans preavis et sans qu'on sache si c'est un coup de rabot isolé ou une tendance sur le long terme, ce qui forcément pousse d'autres chouineurs,...à chouiner (à juste titre également)

We always come back to the same problem: the changes are made without warning the community and above all overnight.

It's more and more complicated to have a long-term vision.
I was talking about it again this morning on our discord. My players are coming to the end of their lives. I have no idea what the best strategy is, because a good decision today could be a bad one tomorrow...


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sora02 |

11 horas atrás

In any case, over the last 15 seasons, there haven't really been any bad choices, since all the generations have been declining in a way that's noticeable enough for each one to have its moment of glory for 2/3 seasons at most.

Even if the problem with the current generation (17/19 year olds) is that training will give us players who don't perform as well as the good blind players/players to be reallocated despite the small 3% increase. And that's a shame.

If it stays the way it is, we'll all be on an equal footing in 10 seasons' time.


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Damien2911 |

8 horas atrás

Aymeric has opened the Pandora's box by allowing the game itself to be impacted via the VFstore.
This brings him money, and it makes sense to take advantage of the game he's worked so hard to develop over the years.

However, with just over 4,000 players in the game, a large proportion of whom are inactive or even 'bots' (clubs that are created but disconnected almost immediately), the community is shrinking fast.

Despite its shortcomings, I've finally got back into Virtuafoot and I hope that Aymeric will manage to revive a dynamic that will attract a viable audience, as it once did.


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Misha |

7 horas atrás

myforsans: Je ne pense pas être un chouineur donc ca doit etre un autre mais en tout cas si quelqu'un a chouiné comme tu dis sur ce sujet il a eu 100 fois raison.

Après le sujet reste toujoursle même. Même si c'est une bonne orientation pourquoi est ce fait du jour au lendemain sans preavis et sans qu'on sache si c'est un coup de rabot isolé ou une tendance sur le long terme, ce qui forcément pousse d'autres chouineurs,...à chouiner (à juste titre également)

But don't ask for anything. Because when you ask for something, you're not born yesterday, you already know that the adjustments aren't balanced.
Today, you're happy because my NG99 is -7NG over a single season (and it's true that this generation gap is frustrating). But when your Hakimi, at 30, is also going to be -7, I'll be there to read the Vforum.

100 times right yourself 😅


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