grissais's man |

11/09/2025

Hi, I'd like to explain, is it possible to put a clause on a player, such as non-transferable player, to avoid what happened to me today, I received a negotiation on a player that I was not selling and by clumsiness I accepted, I would have put this clause non-transferable player, the person who sends the negotiation would have seen that the player is non-transferable and therefore could not send a negotiation.

Good day and good end of season


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Sun's |

11/09/2025

Being able to indicate whether or not we are open to negotiation on our players would perhaps be a plus, as it could be useful to the players also on the list.


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Tazz26 |

11/09/2025

I feel for you, it hasn't happened to me yet but every time it does, I'm afraid I'll slip and not press the right little square with my big fingers...
Try to reach an amicable agreement with the buyer and an administrator...


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grissais's man |

11/09/2025

Already done, but a categorical refusal ^^


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Magpie |

11/09/2025

Was he your keeper?


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Adrimax |

11/09/2025

Yes... I had booked it, screen discord to back it up. Unfortunately, it's the game!


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sora02 |

11/09/2025

Clearly it was a mistake and the buyer decided not to return it?

That's very, very bad. Especially when you can legitimately say that the price is very underpaid.


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sora02 |

11/09/2025

We'd like to remind you of the values of the agreement of this nice member who refuses to give the player back:

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Socrate |

11/09/2025

Is there a real point to my intervention in relation to the proposed improvement?
But if I take you back from stealing, it's because I'm a LR myself and therefore not legitimate...
So I'll leave it to you to come to an agreement in a dispute between 2 players and make a post go to shit again.

There are enough admins available to channel the anger.
Have fun gentlemen


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Rafaelle |

11/09/2025

And here we go again with a gratuitous polemic!
It's getting tiresome


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khad19 |

11/09/2025

60M very underpaid for a keeper? 😂


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Tazz26 |

11/09/2025

The best goalkeeper in the game, and even the best 17/24 player... the double goes.


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Socrate |

11/09/2025

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Marcus Aurelius |

11/09/2025

It's daring to give lessons when you have a variable geometry value system.


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sora02 |

11/09/2025

OK, but who's going to denounce your member's ugly attitude on this subject?

That's condemning variable-geometry comments/attitudes, I think, as our AbregeFrere would say.


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Adrimax |

11/09/2025

I'd rather make it clear that Skyz (given that we're talking about him) didn't have all the facts to decide whether or not to give the player back. We're waiting for him to come back, and I have very few doubts about his fair play.


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Marcus Aurelius |

11/09/2025

That's a pretty vicious message, implying that you're automatically being unfair if you don't give it back even though you haven't broken any rules.
What a method!


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Marcus Aurelius Ça c’est un message bien vicieux ; sous entendre qu’il serait automatiquement non fair play s’il ne le rend pas alors qu’il n’a enfreint aucune règle. Belle mé…

Adrimax |

11/09/2025

Interpret it however you like.


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Adrimax T'es pénible. Grissais joue le match du titre aujourd'hui.. quel est son intérêt de vendre son meilleur joueur ? Si Skyz veux pas le rendre, libre à lui, on en…

Marcus Aurelius |

11/09/2025

You're already making a big deal of it 😉


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Marcus Aurelius Vous en faites déjà tout un cirque.😉

villa |

11/09/2025

especially since you've been involved.


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villa surtout depuis que tu interviens .

Marcus Aurelius |

11/09/2025

I'd say since Sora's message. Which isn't surprising given the content of the message.
When you provoke and insinuate like that you shouldn't be surprised when it comes back.


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Marcus Aurelius Je dirais plutôt depuis le message de Sora. Ce qui n'est pas étonnant vu la teneur du message. Quand on provoque et qu'on insinue comme ça il ne faut pas s'éto…

sora02 |

11/09/2025

What you're having trouble understanding is that my message wasn't intended to slam LR or its members, but to point out an ethic that is supposed to apply to all its members and which obviously escapes some of them.

I have no doubts about your ethics, but you can be sure that if someone had refused to back out of a deal after an absolutely obvious mistake, presidents of other agreements would have put pressure on the member because of the catastrophic image it would send out, and rightly so, which I'm sure you did.

Skyz, like you, like others you know very well that this gac is the best in the game as it stands by far. 60m is a mistake.

Despite the recent affairs, I'm convinced that you won't jeopardise your image just for one player, especially when the manager opposite, grey, is a really nice guy who has never taken sides.


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sora02 |

11/09/2025

Perfect then, a good ethic if it happens.

Especially towards grey a good teddy bear who doesn't deserve this!

Good day to all


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pixou |

11/09/2025

the little story at the end of the season!
There was no shortage of it!


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brewen |

11/09/2025

I'm sorry to hear that. I hope the situation can be resolved if an agreement was reached between you and Adrimax.

As far as the 'wild' offers are concerned, I can confirm and support the proposal for an 'intransferable player clause'. I'd go even further, with 5 statutes:

  • Transferable (transfer list)
  • For auction (auction list)
  • On loan (loan list)
    To this I would add your proposal:
  • Untransferable player (automatic refusal of offers, there are still PMs to discuss a price or transaction...)
    The aim is simply not to receive notifications about a player deemed intransferable.

But also another proposal:

  • Automatic refusal clause (automatic minimum value where the offer is refused)
    The aim would be to avoid €0 bids on 99NGs (yes, I receive them, and I'm probably not the only one) or derisory offers on certain players, who are not for sale unless they are for huge sums. (I've had another case of a 10M offer on my latest youngster, with low offers sent in hoping that by mistake, or by chance, the person accepts). Each time, you have to sweat like hell to click on the buttons, because the system is very poorly designed, and doesn't emphasise the selected choice enough (use of different colours, more striking or distinguishable text or icons/graphics, validation messages, etc.).

PS: This is basically the same proposal (by Tigers214) as the other topic linked by Socrate, which dates back more than a year.


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Galywat |

11/09/2025

I think it's a good idea.


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khad19 |

11/09/2025

You're in the process of making a circus out of it for an offer that's nothing wild (60M for a keeper that matches his value). You've settled this in mp with a categorical refusal from the buyer, so why make a scene of it here?


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OMstar83 |

11/09/2025

It should be noted, however, that Grissais, who is the main player, had just come to propose an intransferable status. That's the basic subject. Knowing Grigri, he's probably one of the chillest guys I've come across in the game.


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lens59 |

11/09/2025

Pour ma part ,Il faut dire que sur téléphone erreur est vite arrivé on m'a fait une offre pour un joueur du cdf promis ailleurs j'ai tremblé pour cliquer mon refus 🤣
Ou ceux qui insiste sur 1 joueur et une fois que le prix et correcte tu n'avez pas gaffe que la dernière offre est un joueur que tu ne voulais pas vendre et en plus même a moitié prix c'est de ta faute


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Tazz26 |

11/09/2025

The aim of the post is not to make a scene but to remind us of the need for improvement in this area.


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junior |

11/09/2025

Perso quand je voie les attaques gratuit ,juste pour faire la continuité de ces gens ,je rend pas le joueurs....Abón entendeur....


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Adrimax |

11/09/2025

Thanks for your opinion!


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Tomasm |

11/09/2025

A very good idea for improvement. Even a priority, I'd say.
If it can avoid all the requests we receive for players, and where we have the drop of sweat on our forehead every time we click on refuse, caused by the fact that the buyer is within his rights and cannot be punished if the seller makes a mistake, I say YES.


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minadinho |

11/09/2025

I don't know Sky so this is just my opinion.
But I think he would have given it back to quite a few people, the big worry and we will not deny it nexus attacks often enough LR.
Donc derrière faut pas s'étonnée des retomber , malheureusement certain paye pour les autres .... What must be the case of gray undoubtedly.


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Tchub |

11/09/2025

We're not talking about an agreement... we're talking about a member, Grissai's, who may be the most hard-hearted guy in the whole game, who wouldn't hurt a fly, but who has the best generation of up-and-coming youngsters, and who therefore receives offers by the bucketful (including quite a few from LR, proof that he does his job well) every day. It's a human mistake. In any case, no one will come out of this story any better, but don't worry, in Belgium we have an expression that goes "el bac se retorne todi sur el pourcha", which basically means that ill-gotten gains never pay off...


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Adrimax |

11/09/2025

Yes, the war is raging! We're managing to compete with them on the ground at the moment, but I doubt it'll last!


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Tchub On ne parle pas d'entente... on parle d'un membre, Grissai's qui est peut être le mec qui a le plus le coeur sur la main de tout le jeu, qui ne ferait pas de m…

minadinho |

11/09/2025

But I did see talk of agreement and ethics, didn't I?
I agree with you that Griss is a great guy (which is why the good guys pay for the bad ones).
Mais quand tout l'année tu envoie des scud forcément tu paye a un moment donné .... c'est rarement le bon qui paye malheureusement


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minadinho Pourtant j’ai bien vu parler d’entente et d’éthique non ? Je te rejoins sur griss qui et un super gars ( d’où les bon paye pour les mauvais ) Mais quand tout l…

Unagi |

11/09/2025

You will note that Sora is not part of our agreement and that no Nexus has been disrespectful towards LRs on this topic.
You'll also note that your systematic attempts to add fuel to the fire where it doesn't belong aren't necessary either.
Just because we can't manage you doesn't mean we have problems with everyone else.
Thank you very much :)


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Unagi Tu noteras que Sora n'est pas dans notre entente et qu'aucun Nexus n'a été irrespectueux envers les LR sur ce topic. Tu notera également que tes interventions …

minadinho |

11/09/2025

Are you reading between the lines? Or did you see that I said you were disrespectful on this topic? On the other hand, the provocation towards them is very real (just as they are towards you) or I'm probably just being paranoid.
So when you play this game all year round, at some point you're bound to pay for it .... Unfortunately it's probably the person who never says anything who takes the cake.


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Unagi Tu noteras que Sora n'est pas dans notre entente et qu'aucun Nexus n'a été irrespectueux envers les LR sur ce topic. Tu notera également que tes interventions …

bluethunders26 |

11/09/2025

For provoking marcu and mina


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minadinho Tu lis entre les lignes ? Ou tu as vu que j’ai dit que sur ce topic vous avez manqué de respect ? Par contre la provocation envers eux et bien réels (tout comm…

bluethunders26 |

11/09/2025

In response to unagi's provocation


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Tchub On ne parle pas d'entente... on parle d'un membre, Grissai's qui est peut être le mec qui a le plus le coeur sur la main de tout le jeu, qui ne ferait pas de m…

OMstar83 |

11/09/2025

So my Tchub, you have to realise that some people in this game can only think in terms of agreement. It's hard for them to accept that we're different people, with a different way of thinking. You'll have to get used to it, it's part of VF ^^


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OMstar83 Alors mon Tchub, il faut savoir que quelques personnes sur ce jeu ne peuvent réfléchir qu'en terme d'entente. Il est difficile pour eux d'accepter qu'on est de…

Rull43 |

11/09/2025

I'd like to point out that in the space of two months we've organised 2 fantasy games, Tour de France and Vuelta.

We've got LRs, fyms, LVs, CPs, NXSs, etc. Sorry if I'm not naming everyone, but they're all individuals in their own right, as you say (and the worst ones at that) and strangely enough, everything's going swimmingly. Thanks and well done guys, long live the sport. 🫠


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Rull43 Je tiens à signaler qu'en deux mois, nous avons organisé 2 jeux fantasy tour de France puis vuelta. Nous avons des LR, des fym, des LV, des CP, des NXS,etc. dé…

OMstar83 |

11/09/2025

Don't advertise! Haha


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Rull43 Je tiens à signaler qu'en deux mois, nous avons organisé 2 jeux fantasy tour de France puis vuelta. Nous avons des LR, des fym, des LV, des CP, des NXS,etc. dé…

Drezzo35 |

11/09/2025

He forgets to mention the agreement of the Vuelta winner the asshole 🙀🤦😘

Just for that, propaganda! RTG is recruiting 🤫😎


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Drezzo35 Il oublie de citer l'entente du vainqueurs de la Vuelta le trouduc 🙀🤦😘 Tiens rien que pour ça, propagande ! La RTG recrute 🤫😎

Rull43 |

12/09/2025

Hahaha I almost did, but we don't compete on the basis of agreement, which is what makes it so successful.
Demi really got us. We're getting ahead of ourselves, but that was also kind of the point. 😘


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Rull43 Je tiens à signaler qu'en deux mois, nous avons organisé 2 jeux fantasy tour de France puis vuelta. Nous avons des LR, des fym, des LV, des CP, des NXS,etc. dé…

Marcus Aurelius |

12/09/2025

After more than 12 years of vfifa and countless deals involved no one has ever paid attention to the tag of so-and-so. There are only selectors.

Just goes to show that anything is possible; whereas my pigheadedness is one of them. 😂


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sergent jeff |

11/09/2025

I think you need to relax a bit, the problem has already been solved by Aymeric, let me explain:
Before the small icon, validation or refusal was only present, a modification was made so that there was a confirmation.
Attached is a screen of the confirmation.
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Apart from making a double error because everything is clearly marked on the confirmation, there is no debate.


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brewen |

11/09/2025

This screen supports my earlier point about improvement:

  • The difference between this tab (validating a purchase) and the similar tab for rejecting a purchase is clearly too close visually.

We're not playing a game of 7 differences, but rather validating a transaction. This is a placebo improvement; it solves virtually nothing as it stands, apart from blaming the club that validated the double check (if it can really be considered as such as it stands). The only difference is the symbol, where the 'simili v' and the 'x' are very similar. There are lots of other very different options that would be much more informative again, as suggested:
=> Use of colours (red = refusal, green = validation) in the response
=> Don't give generic names to the "Continue" and "Return" buttons, but make them more informative like "Validate sale" / "Cancel transaction" / "Return".


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bluethunders26 |

11/09/2025

Bon vos règlement de comote compte c'est en mp , la s'agit d'une erreur de manipulation /interprétation ou compréhension entre 2 managers

So future provocations on agreements will be punished without further reminders.

So thank you for staying on topic


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MenoFR |

11/09/2025

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Marcus Aurelius |

11/09/2025

Two clicks of confirmation, then he put the other first-choice keeper straight in and it was several hours before he realised.

Add to that your kind, courteous and unprovocative attitude, and you don't seem to be lecturing anyone.

It goes without saying that we'll be looking internally to see what action we take (probably exclusion from the agreement) in response to this despicable behaviour (not yours, of course, which is exemplary, but that of our comrade), because, as you should know, dear Sora, what matters most to us is the image that you and your valiant comrades have of us.

Best regards.


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Unagi |

11/09/2025

When you talk about a benevolent, courteous, unprovocative attitude, and all this without seeming to give lessons, I imagine you're talking about yourself?


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Socrate |

11/09/2025
Interesting proposal Brewen 👍🏾
I invite you to make a separate post to make your idea visible, as it will be very difficult for the MDJ to read it
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grissais's man |

11/09/2025

This topic is just a project for improvement, not a settling of scores ^^, if we can find together an improvement to avoid someone else being fooled.


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zejl |

11/09/2025

Hello
So if I try to summarize the situation:
Last night Grissais sold his goalkeeper, at the time the deal went through he didn't think about it and didn't contact skyz or admin.
This morning Adrimax sees the transaction and probably reminds him a bit angrily that he had promised him the player.
So Adrimax try to negotiate with Skyz, given the recent differences between agreement it is not very open but it was perhaps catchable with a Grissais very annoyed would have tried to discuss by mp.
As a result, Grissais, who seems to be very honest, suggested an improvement so that next time he would have time to think carefully about what he was doing and it could (should?) have ended there, but it didn't because a number of guys who were on the ball wanted to reveal the transaction, a transaction that coincided exactly with the agreement that is currently in vogue on the IR. And there...as is often the case....coup de pression, post provocateur
So I don't know what the objective was, but if it was to prove that skyz was a big rat who would never give the player back, it's totally successful because now, bravo, that's what's going to happen. If it was to succeed in making him change his mind in popular pressure mode the failure is total 👍.
What's sad is the image it reflects of the game, so I'll have a thought for the 90% of those who never post, take no pleasure in getting confused, and are sorry about these exchanges, can we have healthy competition and friendly exchanges it's a virtual game damn (it was for the rhyme).
A bon entendeur.
Ps: excellente fin de saison à tous et Grissais ça arrive de faire des boulettes, t'inquiète tu n' en mourras utilise bien tes 60m et amuse toi bien sur le jeu


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S0upe |

11/09/2025

Griss working at 5am... 1st reflex before hiring was to send a PM to his coach (me) to warn me that the keeper of the selection will not be there tomorrow for our IS.
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We shouldn't be implying a lack of fair play on the part of a player, but in return we can be made to look like liars scheming to cover up a handling error? Who hasn't missed a button at 4.30am with their eyes glued to their phone?
Anyway, the subject is closed, enjoy your new goalkeeper.

On the other hand, Brewen's proposal is very well thought out and would be a huge plus for the game.


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Nitnelav |

11/09/2025

As double validation exists, I am voting against.


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Adrimax |

11/09/2025

Zejl, I'm replying to you in mp, the first part where you quote me is completely wrong.


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grissais's man |

11/09/2025

So here's what really happened, there's no point in telling things that aren't true.
I'm working a 2x8 this week, I'm a morning shift, as usual I'm doing group training and I saw that there was a negotiation that I refused, or so I thought. Just before going to work I started training and I realised that my bank account had gone up and that's when I realised that I'd made a mistake.
Then nothing happened, until my break when I sent a message to Socrate who told me to speak to Skyz directly, which is what I did.
Yes, I started a topic to see if we could improve the system.
Ps: under no circumstances did I send a message to adrimax


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Pierabou |

11/09/2025

This morning, I still had a 100k offer that had been cancelled, but it's all very dull and you shudder every time you're turned down because you can't see anything.

So I'm obviously in favour, both of being able to put in players who can't be transferred, but above all of having a real double validation on which you can see something, because at the moment we have to admit that that's not the case.


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Nitnelav |

11/09/2025

Dual validation exists


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Nitnelav La double validation existe 😉

Pierabou |

11/09/2025

Yes, but you can't see anything.


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Magpie |

11/09/2025

Perhaps a colour code, or a very specific style, which would be different. To clearly differentiate the 2 pages (Refusal / Agreement)
That way, after all, when you've refused so many times, it's easy to get to know the 'refusal' page. On the other hand, when you see the "Agreement" page, it might make you wonder "What's this different page?

That would avoid the 'usual' gesture.


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Nitnelav |

11/09/2025

Personally, I think it's pretty telling, but it depends on the size of the screen 😅
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villa |

11/09/2025

I must admit that at 3am the screen seems small and my eyes don't always open quickly. Sometimes I get stressed out thinking I'm going to click properly.


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villa Je t avoue qu a 3h du matin l écran parait petit et mes yeux s ouvrent pas toujours vite . Certaines fois je stresse à me dire est que j vais bien cliquer .

Nitnelav |

11/09/2025

At this stage, it's Continue or Return so the risk is low 😜
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Pierabou |

11/09/2025

Incidentally, the option of withdrawing a counter-offer would also be useful.


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Rull43 |

11/09/2025

An idea to improve the game is always a good one. We're not talking about a boost, regression, advantage or disadvantage, so there shouldn't even be a debate.

As for the ensuing argument, cool guys, pretty pointless, even if I did get out the popcorn.

Personally, I'd have given the player back whoever was in front of me. My father always said to me, and I still say it to my son, don't do to others what you wouldn't want done to you. If only in this world we followed that maxim. On the other hand, everyone is free to do what they want too.


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Demi-cerveau |

11/09/2025

Good evening. Then, if we apply the rules, and if there is an agreement in mp between Grissaisman and Adrimax that predates the transfer ....

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Socrate |

11/09/2025

The agreement was reached on their private discord.

I think the rules stipulate an agreement on the VF PM box, on the VFORUM and on the VF Mini chat.
So that it can be authenticated by an admin by accessing the PM box of the manager(s).

I've never dealt with what happens on the private discord.
I don't mean to imply anything, as I know Adrimax and Gris only too well to know that they won't do this type of thing.
But it's very easy to hijack a discord screen and put whatever you want on it.
I don't think there's any point in setting a precedent with the private discord of an agreement. But once again I would like to stress that I exclude this practice 100% in this particular case.

Skyz don't intend to give the player back because they believe they are within their rights, and in this case they are.
60m is an offer within the current market for this position. Let's not go into science fiction and think that this player is worth 150M
Now what's regrettable for Gris, who is personally a long-standing friend of VF, is that he didn't want to sell him to a manager other than Adrimax.
This story will blow over, there's no need to make it worse.


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Kenzovinho |

11/09/2025

The regulation you are showing is for loan premiums.
This is a dry sale with two-stage validation.
I don't understand your answer, which I don't think is relevant to the subject.


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Kenzovinho Le règlement que tu montre et pour les primes de prêt. La c’est une vente sec avec la validation a deux étapes . Je ne comprend pas ta réponse qui selon moi ne…

S0upe |

11/09/2025

The tip is at the end of the memory transfer section, and is therefore authoritative for transfers and loans.


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S0upe Le conseil se trouve a la fin de la section transfert de mémoire, et il fait donc foi pour les transfert et les prêts

Kenzovinho |

11/09/2025

I've just checked and it only talks about the bonus and nothing else.


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Socrate L’accord a eu lieu sur leur discord privée. Je pense que le règlement stipule un accord sur la boîte MP de VF, sur le VFORUM et sur le Mini chat de VF. Pour qu…

Magpie |

11/09/2025

That's just it, it would be nice to clear that up.
Not to mention the debate about making the player or not, so we're sure that what happens on the discord is totally uncorrelated with VF?
I mean, in my imagination, if I got the irresistible urge to go on the RTG discord and insult Demi' over 10 generations, I wouldn't risk anything, would I? (Humour Demi', I won't do it, of course.)
But it seems to me that, in the past, sanctions have been imposed for comments made on the discord...
In fact, didn't A45 sanction an agreement following incorrect comments about him? (I'm putting a pinch of salt on this, I'm not sure, so I'm asking).
But if that's the case, then we'll have to decide.

Personally, when I make agreements, I prefer to do them on discord, because the history remains. Unlike VF, where the history is erased. So when it comes to a deal for next season, or a later release of CDF, apart from thinking about making a capture, it's boring.

Unfortunately, I feel obliged to point out that this is a calm request, simply constructive for the future, to avoid other situations.


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steril |

11/09/2025

I'll sell you my GAC for 60M! To anyone !!!!!
I'm waiting for the offer!!!


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Lebaygue |

11/09/2025

It's practical, the law, it avoids having a conscience.


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Socrate |

11/09/2025

@Magpie

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Magpie |

11/09/2025

Well, that's precisely what I'm asking.
We share the same opinion. But I'd like to retort that in the past, things that happened on the discords were punished on VF (insults in particular). But not by the current team, of course.
So obviously, either there was no need for it, or there is a problem today.
From memory, the old team (Demi will be able to confirm this) took discord agreements into account.

So if things have changed, at least we'll know, but it has to be clear then. To avoid any future situations, that's what I'm saying :)


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