Djaiss |

36u geleden

It's all in the title I think 🙂

Personally, I have more time in the evening after 8pm to do detection. I don't know how many players you can watch (150-160 I think) and then you have to wait 6 hours (?).

In short, I imagine that the restriction has a specific purpose because, once again on this game, some people have found ways around the trick (national sport on VF which they call "optimisation"), but for those who play quietly, cushily and who don't have the opportunity to do detection every 6 hours, it's a bit too restrictive in my opinion.

Vote for me 🥳

Love and have a good Sunday 😘


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Pauul76 |

35u geleden

The limit is set at 150 players every 6 hours... perhaps it would be better to accumulate this quota over a full day! For example, 600 players per day, with a reset at 00:00. This would certainly make things easier for those who have more time in the evenings.


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Rull43 |

35u geleden

Djaiss: Tout est dans le titre je pense 🙂

Personnellement, j'ai plus de temps le soir après 20h pour faire de la détection. Je ne sais pas combien de joueurs on peut visionner (150-160 je crois) puis il faut attendre 6h (?).

Bref, j'imagine que la restriction a un but précis car, de nouveau sur ce jeu, certains ont trouvé comment contourner le truc (sport national sur VF qu'ils appellent "optimisation"), mais pour ceux qui jouent tranquille, pépère et qui n'ont pas l'occasion de faire de la détect...

It's so that you can have a life and not be glued to your phone for hours on end.
I like the current system


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Djaiss |

34u geleden

Rull43: C'est pour que tu es une vie peut-être et ne sois pas scotché à ton tel pendant x heures.
Je trouve bien le système actuel

Um... I don't think that's the (intended) purpose of this restriction 😉

The only reason my life is cooler after 8pm is that I spend the rest of the day doing other things. I have more time to devote to it then, but I'm stuck with 160 players, which isn't great 🫤

The proposal above seems to me to be the right one, i.e. one limit per day, that seems reasonable to me. It's up to the MDJ to define this limit, but at the moment it's 4 (6-hour periods) x 160 players, i.e. 640 players per day.

It would be nice to be able to do all 640 players at once.


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k3vin59218 |

34u geleden

Whether it's 4x150 or 1x600, it makes no difference to the authorised limit.
So the idea of doing it all at once is pretty good and fair for everyone.
People who work and who can't necessarily devote 15 minutes of their working time to clicking...


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Rull43 |

34u geleden

How long does 600 players take?
And who actually does it?
I do hope you've got cooler things to do.


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Djaiss |

34u geleden

Rull43: 600 joueurs cela prend combien de temps?
Et qui les fait vraiment?
J'espère effectivement que tu as des choses plus cool à faire.

6 seconds (potential display time) x 600 = 3,600 seconds = 60 minutes

Personally, I do this while watching TV under the blanket and Madame with her knitting (do you have the picture?) 🤣


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Zeus |

33u geleden

Yes, it would be a nice change if we could make the quota all at once instead of being restricted every 6 hours.


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Djaiss |

33u geleden

At present, 150 players x 6 seconds represents 15 minutes of detection every 6 hours.


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OncleOink |

33u geleden

Basically, the reduction of the detection series to 151 players was put in place to reduce the interest in using Autoclick systems. So you probably won't be successful on this issue, especially as a reform of the module was presented to the mdj at least 1 or 2 years ago. To date, I don't even know if he's bothered to read it!


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Djaiss |

33u geleden

OncleOink: A la base, la réduction des séries de détection à 151 joueurs a été essentiellement mise en place pour appauvrir l'intérêt du recours aux systèmes d'Autoclick. Vous n'aurez donc sans doute pas gain de cause sur cette question, d'autant qu'une réforme du module a été présentée au mdj il y a au moins 1 ou 2 ans. A ce jour, je ne sais même pas s'il s'est donné la peine de la lire !

Ha ok! Another "optimisation"...

But at the moment it's allowed to have 4x150 players, we're just asking you to be able to do it in 1x 600 players.

This won't allow these tricksters to go beyond this limit of players per day.


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OncleOink |

33u geleden

There is also more interest for a player using an autoclick to launch it once a day, for 1 hour, than 4 times for 15 minutes!


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Djaiss |

32u geleden

OncleOink: Il y a quand même davantage d'intérêt aussi pour un joueur utilisant un autoclick de la lancer 1 fois dans la journée, pour 1 heure, que 4 fois pour 15 mn !!

It's a good summary of what this game has become, and I can understand why Aymeric needs to take a 2-year break from VF before getting back into it.

As soon as he develops a new feature, requested by some, others immediately think "well, what possibilities does this open up? And they work their brains out to get round the original aim of the new feature and open up other doors (optimisation) that the MDJ didn't want.

The result is that new features are restricted because of these 'hackers' (who, in the meantime, will find yet another way around them), those who play quietly without looking for misery find themselves penalised and, in the end, these new features create frustrations because they are not used, or are used only to a limited extent, as Aymeric thought they would be when he created them.

No way of creating a 'clean' version and a 'cheating' version like in Monopoly? 😅


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Djaiss |

32u geleden

What if we just removed the next and previous buttons in the detection (on the player sheet)? 😏 I imagine that's what they use with the clicker, isn't it?


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OncleOink |

32u geleden

Djaiss: Beau résumé de ce qu'est devenu ce jeu et je comprends Aymeric qui doit prendre 2 ans de repos sur VF avant de s'y replonger.

Dès qu'il développe une nouveauté, demandée par certains, d'autres pensent direct "bon, qu'est-ce que ça ouvre comme possibilités?". Et ça turbine dans le ciboulot pour contourner le but premier de la nouveauté et ouvrir d'autres portes (optimisation) non voulues par le MDJ.

Résultat, on bride les nouveautés à cause de ces "optimiseurs" (qui, entretemps trouveront en...

kamarad Djaiss, Aymeric can also make the effort to pay attention to the solutions proposed to him. I'd remind you of this project that you yourself liked, not so long ago, which solved a lot of problems with the 'detection' module, and also made it totally unnecessary to resort to any kind of digital trickery!
cf : #forum?topic=158239


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Djaiss |

32u geleden

OncleOink: kamarad Djaiss, Aymeric peut aussi faire l'effort d'être attentif aux solutions qui lui sont proposées. Je te rappelle ce projet que tu as toi-même liké, il n'y a pas si longtemps et qui résolvait beaucoup de choses sur le module "détection", en rendant aussi totalement caduque le recours à une quelconque supercherie digitale !
cf. : #forum?topic=158239

True, the subject comes up again and again 🥺

Come on, one more grain of sand in the ocean, we can close 😅


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