Ali_Cool |

Hace 44h

Hi vfiens
I don't know why the admins and the game owner still refuse to tackle this problem.
Season after season, we find practically the same agreements in the first places and the competition ends up losing its interest.

I'd like to make it clear that I have no problem with the LR or CP teams. They play by the current rules and take advantage of the system that's in place. My question only concerns the entente system.

How do you explain the fact that the same dominant cartels can be found in Division 1 but also in Division 2? Why not further limit the number of members per agreement? Why continue to authorise secondary agreements that further strengthen the already most powerful structures?

In the long term, this situation risks discouraging new agreements and reducing the interest of the competition. Virtuafoot needs a system that promotes greater balance and gives each agreement the opportunity to compete for titles.

A competition is always more exciting when several candidates can really claim victory.


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Skyz |

Hace 44h

Thank you at last someone is talking about it


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Ali_Cool |

Hace 44h

Congratulations to the Irs on winning the title once again


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myforsans |

Hace 44h

You say
In the long term, this situation risks discouraging new agreements and reducing the interest of the competition. Virtuafoot needs a system that promotes greater balance and gives each agreement the chance to compete for titles.

But at the same time, you've probably noticed that as soon as the supposedly stronger teams are beaten by a smaller one, people start screaming about carrots, complaining that the game is badly set up and so on;

Hard, hard to please everyone :) :) :)


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bluethunders26 |

Hace 44h

Hello ,

Are you really sure you're telling the admin team that you don't want to deal with this?

We'll let you debate this subject, as far as I know we're not closing it down directly, are we?

Aymeric also goes over the topics, and whether it's Aymeric or the admin team, you can't change everything at once just because a manager asks you to.

Changes to agreements have always been made and always will be:

There were too many 2 agreements in D1, now they don't have access, now it's removing the 2 because we can't develop, in 10 seasons it'll be removing the agreements because we don't win our matches?

If you think that the admin team doesn't do anything, well, you're wrong with all the cases and problems. So yes, we still have to sort out the agreements in D5, but this is the first and last time that you accuse the admin team of refusing to act, because up until now we've always been there with the means at our disposal.

With that explanation and warning, enjoy the rest of the debate.


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Ballounet |

Hace 43h

You're going to make the same post every 15 days. If it's always the same deals in mind, there's a reason. You can't build an agreement, recruit 20 or 30 afk and claim to be winning D1.
How does it bother you or the members of your agreement that the Lr or the Cp dominate the standings? On the contrary, personally I find it a challenge to beat them. And we're seeing more and more D1 teams getting closer and closer in the rankings.


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aloisio |

Hace 43h

You're right
We're going to give full powers to someone who takes advantage of the system every day in real life to do nothing at work and invent a life for himself at padel.

Steril, we're giving you the keys to the game. With you and Ali, he's in good hands.


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Ragen |

Hace 41h

After that, it's always between the psg and another club in Ligue 1.
Enfin je crois


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Jason40 |

Hace 40h

Ali, you know I'm very fond of you.

But you should stop posting the same thing over and over again. It's a subject that's been seen over and over again, and it won't change. On the contrary, it should motivate us little people to become better than them.

If LR are always at the top, it's because they make sure they are. You have to stop thinking that everything is simple. Let's take a leaf out of their book and, in time, other agreements will manage to be competitive too.


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kiki-sainté |

Hace 32h

How can I say this without being vulgar? Get your fingers out of your mouth and start looking after yourself and stop looking at other people.
I feel better now that I only watch the nwo wolfpack. Je regarde les classements oui je félicite même les vainqueur de d1 oui mais ils ont travaillé dur pour en. arrivé la .toi tu viens d'arrivé tu veux déjà tout de suite et ben non le jeu est un jeu de gestion a toi de gérer comme il faut pour être la future entente qu'on parlea tous mais en attendant met toi au travail (j'espère ne pas avoir été trop dur avec toi mais a force de te lire pour lire la même chose ça devient usant )


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zejl |

Hace 32h

Why lr and cp dominate ... I honestly think that on this game there are 30 or even 40 guys who are really into the game, who are up to their ears in the slightest changes to the game, who when they play a match are on the computer playing to the second to adapt, systematically trying out new tactics and spending hours and hours on it.
And it just so happens that in this top 30/40 you'll easily find a good ten cp and a good ten lr.
So it's not the rules that will change anything, but the number of players willing to put in the effort. If this top 30 became a top 100 of guys willing to put in the time and investment, the dice would be shuffled and the champion agreement would change every time and there would be more suspense, but right now there is virtually no new blood in the top 10 and so the 2 dominant agreements are not about to change.


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Lebaygue |

Hace 30h

It almost makes you miss Zeus as president of the Union Etoilee.


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minadinho |

Hace 29h

The step is complicated to take, dethroning LR or CP remains a challenge.
We complain that the game isn't moving forward, but that can motivate us to want to dethrone them. Maybe that's the only thing that's exciting at the moment.
Next season I'll be making sandals with curry chicken sauce 😀
Just in case the challenge is there at the fym 😋


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michbou |

Hace 28h

Curry sauce
No, you need onion sauce Like for a pot au feu 😅😅😅😅


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myforsans |

Hace 28h

@zejl
I share your analysis of the present but not at all of the future.

With the ongoing development of a number of game parameters that will be fully effective in 3 or 4 seasons, I'm predicting a huge smoothing out of levels with 2 or 300 teams of a roughly equivalent level, or at least close enough that in a match the chances of a top 10 team winning are hardly more than 60-40 compared to a top 300 team.
What's more, the 'free market' that has been decided will only increase the phenomenon by making it easier to join the top 200 or top 300, and in turn the cartel championship will become much more open.

Obviously, what I'm saying won't become a reality if new parameters are introduced overnight without warning.
But as things stand, that's where we're heading inexorably.


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lorenzo861 |

Hace 28h

The same issues over and over again.....
Let's do away with cartels, it'll be easier...

Now if the strong clubs didn't agree to quilt their original agreements to join the top 2 agreements with the sole aim of winning titles easily (note that this is not a criticism far from it) but would stay to contribute to the development of their own agreement.... it would be fairer.

Of course, if the top 2 agreements stopped looking for the best in the others (although this is not a criticism, it is a reality) in order to assert their domination instead of fighting on equal terms, it wouldn't have come to this either.

I would point out that this is not victimisation. The LV has also done this in the past and it was already an issue... it's just a reality that's being repeated.

The current system is fine, there's nothing to say about it. The methods used on both sides are more debatable. Like IRL in the end.

Now, as Mina says, it's a challenge. This one's up for grabs. And we'll be happy to do it!

Happy end of season


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Misha |

Hace 27h

What I don't really understand is that you're dominating your division 4. And division 3 is being led by two new projects. One of which is made up of old friends of ours. So finally, we can see that the mayonnaise is taking for this kind of new project.

And we're not recruiting from you. And we wouldn't complain if you were canvassing our CP2 (that's the game).

So why bother? 🥸


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Kirikou |

Hace 27h

Perhaps we should add to the rules a prohibition on canvassing members of another agreement.


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minadinho |

Hace 27h

Kirikou: Peut-être il faut ajouter au règlement, interdiction de démarcher le membre d'une autre entente.

Unfortunately that's the way the game is played, so it's up to us to keep our members loyal.


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Ced90 |

Hace 27h

The real 'problem' is that there are fewer and fewer clubs actively involved in the game.

As a member of one of the two clubs in the top 2, I can guarantee you that trying to release 100 IEs every season, and good quality ones at that!

It may look easy from a distance because "ah they're always first or second", but in reality it's not so easy.


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zejl |

Hace 26h

myforsans: @zejl
Je partage ton analyse sur le présent mais pas du tout sur le futur.

Avec l'évolution en cours d'un certain nombre de paramétrages du jeu qui vont être pleinement effectifs dans 3 ou 4 saisons, je te prévois un énorme lissage de niveaux avec 2 ou 300 équipes d'un niveau sensiblement équivalent en tout cas suffisamment proches pour que dans un match les chances de gagner d'une equipe du top 10 ne soit guere plus de 60-40 par rapport à une équipe du top 300.
En plus le "marché libre" qu...

The last golgoths are 29 years old, so we're in for a good 5 seasons ....


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khad19 |

Hace 26h

VF has changed time and time again and it's always the same people who take the top spots. It's not the end of the 99NG/endurant with a so-called re parameterisation that should tend towards a balance that will change anything, you're wrong. There are just some players/ententes who are more invested than others, so take heart Ali, fewer vfo posts on the same subjects for a start would be a good start.


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King |

Hace 26h

Kirikou: Peut-être il faut ajouter au règlement, interdiction de démarcher le membre d'une autre entente.

Personally, I've always made it a principle never to recruit in any agreement where I was once a member, or if I personally know the President of an agreement (e.g. Blacki LFL, AFU, etc.) but I've never been in the agreement. My only exception is when one of my former members (and there are a lot of them, ahaa) is in an agreement, and I've never had any connection with that agreement (I haven't yet activated 95% of this feature).
But then, it has to be said that the big cartels recruit a lot from the promoter cartels. But there again, that's the game... But it's hard to build loyalty.


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myforsans |

Hace 21h

zejl: Les derniers golgoths ont 29 ans on est parti pour 5 bonnes saisons ....

In fact, as things stand, there isn’t a single outfield player in the squad under the age of 30 who has a NG99 rating and stamina above 30

Indeed, thankfully, the weekly regression settings have (finally) been accelerated and the number of 30-year-old and older Golgoths is now melting away like snow in the sun.

On the other hand, the future mini-Golgoths who will replace them in 3 or 4 seasons will essentially be the 100 Zidanes, the 80 Papins and the 70 Lampards generated by the game for the ‘new’ clubs, who end up discreetly and more or less directly (or more or less subtly via intermediary clubs) in the hands of multi-account creators. And one cannot say that this is a reassuring development.


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Lebaygue |

Hace 19h

A lot of hot air for a thread that seems uninteresting at first glance... Only Columbo will be able to solve this mystery.


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Brutus |

Hace 18h

Personally, I’m doing my own research and I’ll let you know if it’s fruitful!


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passion |

Hace 14h

Lebaygue: Beaucoup de blabla pour un topic inintéréssant a priori....Seul Columbo pourra résoudre ce mystère.

Chicken colombo is really good 😜😘


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